Re: [opensource-dev] Mercurial to Git migration

On 2019-12-13 11:34 , Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: I've posted a document on how to follow our conversion from hg to git: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BEvUxaGnTQ54JNd6B7TZQE_Z0JccaoTYmJGNaXsnq_o/edit?usp=sharing I'll try to get the wiki updated to our new processes ove

Re: [opensource-dev] Mercurial to Git migration

On 2019-12-16 09:47 , Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: On 2019-12-13 11:34 , Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: I've posted a document on how to follow our conversion from hg to git: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BEvUxaGnTQ54JNd6B7TZQE_Z0JccaoTYmJGNaXsnq_o/edit?usp=sharing I'

Re: [opensource-dev] Mercurial to Git migration

enlab/build-variables on the 'viewer' branch to get a local copy that matches the old repository:     git clone g...@bitbucket.org:lindenlab/build-variables.git viewer-build-variables     cd viewer-build-variables     git co viewer -- OZ LINDEN | VP Second Life Engineering email: o..

[opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

unmodified viewer may have the wrong cost for some action; if the viewer expects the cost to be lower than the simulator does, the simulator will reject the request. * -- OZ LINDEN | VP Second Life Engineering email: o...@lindenlab.com <mailto:o...@lindenlab.com> | Scott Lawrence <https

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

On 2020-02-27 08:21 , Cinder Roxley wrote: On February 25, 2020 at 2:17:16 PM, Henri Beauchamp (sl...@hotmail.com <mailto:sl...@hotmail.com>) wrote: On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 10:48:03 -0500, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > Why are there changes? > > The viewer currently has so

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

to Premium and introducing a new Premium Plus upgrade has been extensively discussed on the blogs for months. -- OZ LINDEN | VP Second Life Engineering email: o...@lindenlab.com <mailto:o...@lindenlab.com> | Scott Lawrence <https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottdlawrence/> LINDEN LAB | Create

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

at https://community.secondlife.com/blogs will find many references. -- OZ LINDEN | VP Second Life Engineering email: o...@lindenlab.com <mailto:o...@lindenlab.com> | Scott Lawrence <https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottdlawrence/> LINDEN LAB | Create Virtual Experiences <https://ww

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

lete XMLRPC implementations not based on ours failed when they shouldn't have isn't something we could have anticipated or done anything about. -- OZ LINDEN | VP Second Life Engineering email: o...@lindenlab.com <mailto:o...@lindenlab.com> | Scott Lawrence <https://www.li

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

e updates, but there may be subtle problems. For example, an unmodified viewer may have the wrong cost for some action; if the viewer expects the cost to be lower than the simulator does, the simulator will reject the request. * -- OZ LINDEN | VP Second Life Engineering email: o...@linde

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer changes for Premium changes

iscover a backwards-compatibility problem serious enough we can modify messaging or make some other accomodation. -- OZ LINDEN | VP Second Life Engineering email: o...@lindenlab.com <mailto:o...@lindenlab.com> | Scott Lawrence <https://www.linkedin.com/in/scottdlawrence/

[opensource-dev] List migration next week

current list subscribers will be sent an invitation to that new list. * The new list will have its own archive: the URL for both the old and new archives will be included in the footer added to each message by the list. If you have questions or concerns, reply to this thread. -- OZ LINDEN |

[opensource-dev] Introduction

This is just a quick note to introduce myself - I'm Scott Lawrence, and this week I've become Oz Linden. I've just started at Linden Lab as the Director of Open Development. I'm a long time open source user and developer - for the last ~7 years I've been leading th

[opensource-dev] Migrating open development focus to 2.x

I opened this in the 27 May IW open source meeting, and would like to invite wider and more specific feedback. It's fairly clear that Linden Lab doesn't have the resources to devote to active work on both Snowglobe 1.x and 2.x, and it's not efficient for the community as a whole to be splitting

Re: [opensource-dev] Introduction

On 2010-05-18 18:36, Mike Monkowski wrote: > > They didn't let you read any of this mailing list before you accepted > the position, did they? (chuckle) Not at all clear how they could have stopped me, but in fact they encouraged me. More seriously... I hope to be spending a fair amount of time

[opensource-dev] Oz Linden office hours

I'm starting office hours... for now twice weekly. Please feel free to drop in to discuss any open source issues. At this stage, you're more likely to help me with building and developing, so if that's what you're after Merov is probably a better bet. https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Oz_L

Re: [opensource-dev] Moving #opensl (IRC) to freenode.net

On 2010-06-02 8:38, Aleric Inglewood wrote: > After a short brain storm on the latest office hours, it > was decided that it makes more sense for an open source > project to use an IRC channel on freenode. > > Pending objections (with arguments), we should > make the move this week. Please reconfig

Re: [opensource-dev] Oz Linden office hours

On 2010-06-01 22:45, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > I'm starting office hours... for now twice weekly. Please feel free > to drop in to discuss any open source issues. > > At this stage, you're more likely to help me with building and > developing, so if that

Re: [opensource-dev] the last press release...

On 2010-06-10 5:12, Lance Corrimal wrote: > I guess that means the axe for "the opensource commitment" as well.. If that were the case, I'd have been let go, and I'm still here. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secon

Re: [opensource-dev] being forced to upgrade to "2.1 Alpha" release

On 2010-06-14 3:15, Opensource Obscure wrote: > Some users report they were forced to download the > 2.0.2, "2.1 Alpha" release. > > Is it correct to assume this only happens to those > who had installed a previous Beta release, > and that this does NOT happen to those who only > used 'stable' 2.x

Re: [opensource-dev] Linux 64 bit libs / 64 bit non-standalone building

On 2010-06-15 12:04, Ricky wrote: > Is there progress towards getting Linux 64bit pre-compiled libraries > available? I'd love to be able to compile a viewer without having to > manually manage my libraries and their versions... > > Some relevant JIRA issues: > http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/

[opensource-dev] Change of office hours for Oz Linden

Effective immediately, I'm moving my early office hours slot from Tuesdays to Mondays at the same time (7:30 SLT), see https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/User:Oz_Linden/Office_Hours ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki

[opensource-dev] Open Source meeting 08-03

Merov is on vacation this week and next, and I am unfortunately tied up this afternoon so neither of us will be available to host the Hippotropolis meeting today. By all means feel free to hold it without us. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe informat

Re: [opensource-dev] Fixing the Assets

On 2010-08-06 17:28, Dzonatas Sol wrote: > Here is the proposal, as a routine. The written logical explanation in > English with normalized words defeats the purpose of the routine for > every reason that supports it. Clarity is never wasted. You have not given any hint at all as to what problem

[opensource-dev] Viewer Development Announcements

As most of you probably know by now, from all the hint-dropping we've been doing, we've got some announcements to make. Here's how it's going to go - on Sunday, the viewer development leads will be the noon (EDT) keynote address at SLCC. You can watch and listen at any of the following in-wo

[opensource-dev] Open Viewer Development Announcement

Oz Linden - Open Source Lead Merov, Aimee, Tofu, and three external contract developers and, crucially, the open source community. Where Are The Details? Snowstorm operates in the open; the home page of the Snowstorm team is on the public wiki at https://wiki.secondlife.com/Snowstorm_Team it has

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Viewer Development Announcement

On 2010-08-15 14:01, Glen Canaday wrote: This does sound much better than the previous way of doing things - more open and closer to the Bazaar, etc., but I want to ask how it came about. What was the impetus? Is this a direct result of Phil's return to more active involvement with LL in general

[opensource-dev] viewer-development vs release 2.1.1

The new viewer-development repository was created by forking off of a LL-internal repository and then stripping from it everything that was not needed to build a viewer or that we could not legally release as open source. (Incidentally, the efforts to get this done in the very short time we

[opensource-dev] list for builds from the new snowstorm viewer-development repository?=

Would it be useful if I set up a one-way mailing list for announcements of build results for the new viewer-development repository? How does the name viewer-development-bui...@lists.secondlife.com sound? Given that we're now hosting the repo itself on bitbucket, and they provide rss feeds fo

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Viewer Development Announcement

On 2010-08-16 14:23, Henri Beauchamp wrote: Well, the first improvement to do is to actually revert 80% of the UI to the way v1.23's one was working, especially getting rid of that moronic side bar is its modal tools which impair productivity and user-friendliness... The question is: will LL fin

Re: [opensource-dev] list for builds from the new snowstorm viewer-development repository?=

On 2010-08-16 13:54, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > Would it be useful if I set up a one-way mailing list for > announcements of build results for the new viewer-development repository? > > How does the name viewer-development-bui...@lists.secondlife.com sound? > > Gi

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm, JIRA and versions

On 2010-08-17 20:00, Philippe (Merov) Bossut wrote: > Hi, > > I'm looking at my backlog of SNOW bugs and I'm really missing right > now a "Snowstorm x.x" version in the "Fixed revision(s)" field. > Especially after this afternoon meeting where everyone agreed to work > off Snowstorm only and l

[opensource-dev] Mailing lists for viewer-development commits & builds

Commits to the http://hg.secondlife.com/viewer-development repository now generate email notices to the mailing list viewer-development-comm...@lists.secondlife.com You can subscribe with the usual mailman mechanisms - the URL for the lists info page is: https://lists.secondlife.com/cgi

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Viewer Development Announcement

On 2010-08-17 0:16, Joel Foner wrote: > Providing text transcription of voice speakers for the disabled, as > well as those who for various reasons cannot enable voice at the time, > and for capture of a text searchable archive of the whole event, is a > solved problem. Totally solved. It need

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Viewer Development Announcement

On 2010-08-18 6:38, Henri Beauchamp wrote: - DO NOT SEGREGATE SUBMISSIONS: since you made Snowstorm LGPL, there is now*no more need* for the FLOSS exception and for contribution agreements (since you can take a snapshot of the Open Source viewer at anytime and incorporate them to your

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Viewer Development Announcement

On 2010-08-18 8:58, Argent wrote: > Well, look there, the ability to type in chat while interacting with > objects in the world isn't on the spreadsheet anywhere. > > This is a complete show-stopper for viewer 2 for me, and for many of > my friends who interact primarily in text and do not use

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Viewer Development Announcement

On 2010-08-18 11:54, Arrehn Oberlander wrote: > I looked at the XUI API docs to see what would be involved in bringing > them back. I was concerned to see that the pie menu status lists as > "deprecated". I believe this should be re-examined and hopefully be in > the backlog for debate. I'm goin

[opensource-dev] Adding open dev items to the Snowstorm sprint

To be a candidate for integration during the current two-week Snowstorm sprint, a change should be on the Snowstorm Sprint list . If it is not, then we can't be sure that we'll have the

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Viewer Development Announcement

On 2010-08-18 14:14, Aidan Thornton wrote: On 8/18/10, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: While there were some good things about the v1 implementation of pie menus, they also had some flaws - such as not opening a submenu centered on the mouse click. I actually puzzled over this a bit when I

Re: [opensource-dev] Open Viewer Development Announcement

On 2010-08-18 22:42, Tateru Nino wrote: >You can also revoke the copyright assignment at (almost) any time. No, you can not. There is no such provision in the Contribution Agreement. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http:

[opensource-dev] Please - enough about the CA

On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: SL is the ONLY so-called (but actually still not, obviously: a Canada-Dry LGPL, perhaps ?) LGPL Open Source project requiring a License agreement from its contributors !!! This makes strictly no sense and is a clear impairement. Axiom

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm Backlog Request: SNOW-766

Aleric - this seems like a perfectly reasonable improvement to include in our general build improvements task for this sprint. If you would please prepare a public clone of viewer-development in which this patch is successfully applied, I'll get it reviewed from there and pulled into viewer-

Re: [opensource-dev] SSH authentication

On 2010-08-19 8:55, Boroondas Gupte wrote: * * IMPEDIMENTS * * * (minor) Can't get ssh authentication to hg.secondlife.com/bitbucket.org working * * * * What exactly isn't working t

Re: [opensource-dev] Version numbering

On 2010-08-19 12:08, Trilo Byte wrote: > Now that 2.1.1 has been released, shouldn't nightly builds be labeled 2.1.2? Yes, probably... still getting that sorted out. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com

Re: [opensource-dev] Viewer-external vs viewer-development

On 2010-08-19 14:15, Kitty wrote: > Sorry if this has already come up, but is there any ETA on when all of > viewer-external (*not* Snowglobe) will make it into viewer-development? > > I.e. the last SVN code drop from 2 days ago changes > LLViewerObject::getItemID() to "getAttachedItemID()", and

Re: [opensource-dev] opensource-dev Digest, Vol 7, Issue 56

On 2010-08-20 9:35, Daniel wrote: What I would*really* like to see as a builder, and someone with two widescreen monitors, is the ability to drag floaters completely outside the perspective view area. For me, they just get in the way of seeing what I am doing. How much work would be required

Re: [opensource-dev] no "allow create landmark" in 2.1?

On 2010-08-20 12:04, Lance Corrimal wrote: > Am Friday 20 August 2010 schrieb Aimee Linden: >> > Apparently this option is no longer supported on the server, so it >> > was removed from the viewer as it will have no effect. > does that mean that now anyone can create landmarks anywhere no matte

Re: [opensource-dev] Update Linux Build Documentation, please?

On 2010-08-21 7:29, Carlo Wood wrote: > I fail to see how this would solve the complexity that is currently > on http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Compiling_the_viewer_%28Linux%29 > as that mainly deals with installing and finding system libraries > (not the prebuilt ones) and with workaround of bu

Re: [opensource-dev] Update Linux Build Documentation, please?

On 2010-08-19 20:26, Dickson, Mike (ISS Software) wrote: CG, I get not found errors when trying to access the hg repository for the build system. Is this repository not operational yet or is the link incorrect in the doc. Thx! CG is cleaning things up so that he can push that repository

[opensource-dev] Mercurial Tutorial Session 8/24

CG Linden has volunteered to give a tutorial on Mercurial usage and answer questions from open source users. I've scheduled this as a special topic for the regular open source meeting that day (if

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

Actually, I think that the answers to your questions are clear from the published material, Lance, but here... > 1. Will there be procedures in place to prevent someone else to use my > true avatar name as their display name? No. > 2. Will there be procedures in place to prevent someone from

Re: [opensource-dev] VWR-20879 - Fix packaging/staging for VC Express

On 2010-08-21 16:36, Robin Cornelius wrote: > In Oz's spirit of do first, talk later:- > > http://bitbucket.org/robincornelius/viewer-development-vwr-20879/changeset/994d4512db23 > http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20879 > > If someone could review then add to the backlog etc, with this appli

Re: [opensource-dev] SSH authentication

On 2010-08-21 19:21, Nicky Perian wrote: How do you do this in windows. Can you take your local key from Linux? There are two different key formats, but most ssh implementations have a tool to convert one to the other (which begs the question never mind). Keys should be portable across

Re: [opensource-dev] SVN dead at LL?

On 2010-08-22 8:32, Gareth Nelson wrote: In the subject really - is subversion just dead now? I know that it seems like a simple question, but it may be that it has gone over the edge to "too simple". Linden Lab has for some time been using Mercurial (hg) internally for nearly everything.

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

On 2010-08-23 11:50, Moriz Gupte wrote: @Oz Linden, I feel your pain of being submerged with noise, but unfortunately this is the price you have to pay for listening. And you cannot afford not to listen because there are gems in that noise that will help your own work and LL in general. So

Re: [opensource-dev] separation between login id and publicly visible id(s)

On 2010-08-23 12:35, Joshua Bell wrote: On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Boroondas Gupte mailto:slli...@boroon.dasgupta.ch>> wrote: But even without that, a 'master account' would make a lot of things easier, like one could account verify all Alts at once, see billings for all lin

Re: [opensource-dev] Display names, again.

On 2010-08-23 14:57, Will wrote: Oz, what is Linden Labs position on Emerald and will they be making a public announcement? (not a lawyer just a concerned resident, remember them?) This is not the place to make any such statement. I believe that one will be coming out in due time, but declin

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

On 2010-08-24 20:21, Jonathan Welch wrote: > Oz& company, > > Would it be possible/easy to have the table of the most recent commit > & build of Snowstorm enhanced to be more humanly readable by > non-developers, like the one for Snowglobe "Development Snapshots"? > > That is, keep the table, b

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

On 2010-08-25 10:08, WolfPup Lowenhar wrote: > I believe he is talking about : > > http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/oz_viewer-de > velopment/latest.html > > This is where the builds are listed. My apologies - I renamed that build and failed to update the wiki to m

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

On 2010-08-25 10:14, Trilo Byte wrote: > Yeah - it'd be great if that page could be changed so that it looks more like > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Snowglobe That page is generated by TeamCity; it may be true that the format can be modified, but that page is really intended only for develo

Re: [opensource-dev] Current Snowstorm commit builds

On 2010-08-25 14:01, CG Linden wrote: > Actually, the code that generates that page my own. If anyone wants to > improve the look, you can! > > Check out > http://bitbucket.org/cg_linden/buildscripts/src/tip/hg/bin/results.py > > /me puts on paintball protective goggles, helmet and shoulderpads

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

On 2010-08-25 17:14, Kadah wrote: > Do they get > special (more restrictive?) rules than other TPVs just because its popular? No. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read th

Re: [opensource-dev] Encrypted chat & third-party servers

On 2010-08-25 20:02, Kadah wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 8/25/2010 3:11 PM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: >>On 2010-08-25 17:14, Kadah wrote: >>>Do they get >>> special (more restrictive?) rules than other TPVs jus

Re: [opensource-dev] Kdu

On 2010-08-26 9:00, Francesco Rabbi wrote: > I see in latest 2.1.2 builds kdu libs, but in "about second life" i > see openjpeg is used, is a bug or a feature In the process of splitting the public from non-public stuff that was in the old private repository, the llkdu build was temporarily lef

[opensource-dev] Updated Snowstorm submission procedure

I've just updated the procedure for how to submit a changeset for Snowstorm integration. There's now an explicit mechanism in Jira to queue a change to be integrated. See https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/How_To_Submit_A_Viewer_Change#Submission This is a temporary procedure - it will be re

Re: [opensource-dev] This is how Linden Lab treats it's customers...

On 2010-08-28 8:50, Aleric Inglewood wrote: > I know this is "off topic", so I'll keep it as short as possible. What happened was wrong, and regrettable, but it's very much off topic for this list. Please take it elsewhere. ___ Policies and (un)subs

Re: [opensource-dev] Submission process when a team is working an issue.

On 2010-08-30 12:42, Nicky Perian wrote: Oz, Please clarify the vwr-x process. As a example. I built and tested vwr-20879 the issue Robin wrote up concerning Express builds. She had a six or so additional vwr-x issues that contributed to a solution. I added a change set that improv

[opensource-dev] Final build for Snowstorm Sprint 2

Here's a pointer to our final build for Snowstorm sprint 2: http://automated-builds-secondlife-com.s3.amazonaws.com/hg/repo/snowstorm_viewer-development/rev/208771/index.html barring something catastrophic, that should be posted to secondlife.com as soon as we can verify that the requisite inf

Re: [opensource-dev] Final build for Snowstorm Sprint 2

On 2010-08-31 10:25, Trilo Byte wrote: > I tested this build yesterday, anti-aliasing (an essential feature for SL > photography and shooting machinima, as well as a preferred setting for many > residents) is still broken. Releasing this would be a significant step > backwards, in my opinion.

Re: [opensource-dev] I was told this need to be dropped on the mailing list.

Here's a story to go with this, Esbee: As a developer, I'd like to be able to build the standard viewer on 64 bit Linux systems. From http://jira.secondlife.com/browse/VWR-20751 I've added changesets for you to work with. These are the ones I used to get viewer-devolment to build on l

[opensource-dev] Oz Office Hours canceled today

I'm not going to be available for my regular office hour on Wednesday Sept 1. Send mail if there was something you needed to discuss, and I'll set up a time we can meet. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlif

Re: [opensource-dev] before opena Jira, APR

On 2010-09-01 7:12, Tateru Nino wrote: Hmm. It might not be an actual leak per-se... I've noticed in busy areas that the viewer will often hit a*lot* of parallel HTTP texture fetches. That's not very good http behavior, but I doubt that we can get it changed until the servers are properly supp

Re: [opensource-dev] before opena Jira, APR

On 2010-09-01 9:46, Francesco Rabbi wrote: > > No, this is a client side problem in file handling, not an HTTP > problem... You can parallelize billions of download, Whether or not you _can_, you _shouldn't_. The HTTP spec is quite clear on this point. We'd get much better performance than we

Re: [opensource-dev] before opena Jira, APR

On 2010-09-01 10:36, Tateru Nino wrote: > > On 2/09/2010 12:20 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: >> On 2010-09-01 9:46, Francesco Rabbi wrote: >>> No, this is a client side problem in file handling, not an HTTP >>> problem... You can parallelize billions

Re: [opensource-dev] Request for review/testing: VWR-2058 3 submenu indicators (▶ a.k.a. U+25B6) should n't be hard-coded in context menu sub menu names

Esbee - this looks like a good thing for us to pull in under the general cleanups category. Boroondas - please recheck the Dutch files - I pulled in those fixes 3 days ago, and you should have them in your repo now. On 2010-09-02 20:41, Boroondas Gupte wrote: As far as I know, VWR-20583

Re: [opensource-dev] Plugins/Modular architecture

On 2010-09-03 9:14, Lawson English wrote: >On 9/2/10 8:13 AM, Talia Tokugawa wrote: >> [...] >> I know this has been suggested before as friends have suggested it. >> Why not make the viewer more Modular? Introduce a plugin architecture. >> Allow any user to "build" their own client that fits

Re: [opensource-dev] Plugins/Modular architecture

On 2010-09-03 11:17, Brandon Husbands wrote: > What id like to see is the viewer be distributed as a library. And we > can init our own project with can create the window etc and setup the > ui.. Since you went lgpl you should have a compile option for a lib > with a established interface. Ot

[opensource-dev] Display Names open source

We had some technical difficulties with getting it properly prepared for publication (resolved with the able help of Aimee), but the source for the Display Names branch is now available at: http://hg.secondlife.com/viewer-identity It is worthy of notice that this is the first Project release

Re: [opensource-dev] How to get your changes merged pretty quickly!

On 2010-09-06 9:12, Boroondas Gupte wrote: > Hi Tofu > > Thanks for clearing this up! > > On 09/06/2010 02:58 PM, Tofu Linden wrote: >> If you have some changes that you think are: >> + Working properly >> + Adequately reviewed >> + Ready for day-to-day public consumption >> >> ... then please

Re: [opensource-dev] Which build should I try?

On 2010-09-05 12:33, Ponzu wrote: > So, new question... > > What is the last build known to allow logging in from a Mac? (I have > iMac and mbp, and both freeze at login.) > 208707 is working for me. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information availab

Re: [opensource-dev] Request for review/testing Socks 5 support for viewer-development (VWR-20801)

On 2010-09-06 8:01, Tofu Linden wrote: > Hi Robin, > Is there a clear blocker for this? My loose grasp of the situation > is that it's waiting for some Socks users to verify that this > works for them out in the wild. Is this correct? It also needs an upgrade of the curl library. I've built th

Re: [opensource-dev] Somewhat stable developer viewer

On 2010-09-06 11:16, Ponzu wrote: The snow storm wiki seems to say that users should try - Viewer 2 (stable) - Development Viewer snap shot (somewhat stable) - Latest Build (look out!) The problem is there is no hint about the Snap Shot? Even just a build number would be OK. Oz has suggested

[opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

The Snowglobe project has served a very useful purpose, but as I said when we launched Project Snowstorm, we need to be clear that our open source efforts are focused there. We're making very good progress importing the features and fixes from Snowglobe into the viewer-development repository,

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

On 2010-09-08 9:43, Ponzu wrote: > Will there be a "snowstorm" viewer? Not by that name - there is a 'Development' viewer (available both from the wiki and the secondlife.com download page) that is the current viewer-development build. See https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Viewer_Types _

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

On 2010-09-08 10:35, Mike Dickson wrote: >On 09/08/2010 10:04 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: >> On 2010-09-08 9:43, Ponzu wrote: >>> Will there be a "snowstorm" viewer? >> Not by that name - there is a 'Development' viewer (available

Re: [opensource-dev] Updated Snowstorm submission procedure

On 2010-08-26 20:36, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: > I've just updated the procedure for how to submit a changeset for > Snowstorm integration. There's now an explicit mechanism in Jira to > queue a change to be integrated. See > > https:/

Re: [opensource-dev] [POLICY] Banning TPV not on the TPV list

On 2010-09-09 1:59, Francesco Rabbi wrote: > Hello Altair! > I wanted to respond to a comment you made on the opensource-dev list. > > You said "imho*ALL* non TPV listed viewers should be blacklisted" All viewers must comply with the Third Party Viewer Policy. Viewers in the directory

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

On 2010-09-09 7:15, Aidan Thornton wrote: > On 9/8/10, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: >> * Remove viewer-external from hg.secondlife.com > Am I right in thinking there's no revision history in here that isn't > available in more useful and fine-grained form

Re: [opensource-dev] The Plan for Snowglobe

On 2010-09-10 14:30, Daniel Smith wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) mailto:o...@lindenlab.com>> wrote: Eventually (and there is _no_ plan for when this will be - certainly longer than 3 months), it will no longer be possible for us to co

Re: [opensource-dev] Test plans / Acceptance Criteria for Snowstorm sprint 3

On 2010-09-10 20:01, Philippe (Merov) Bossut wrote: > > One question: how do we close (Accept) fixes? Clearly, that shouldn't > be the dev doing this (not me then on those) but how to make sure it > gets on the radar of someone? I suggest that the process be that we get some other team member

Re: [opensource-dev] Building viewer-development

On 2010-09-10 22:53, Sheet Spotter wrote: I would like to build the viewer-development source code under Windoze. I was familiar with the Snowglobe process. Now I need to understand any changes to the build process for Project Snowstorm. The wiki instructions for the retrieving the source c

Re: [opensource-dev] Building viewer-development

On 2010-09-11 9:48, Ponzu wrote: > I know it seems somewhat risky, but it is a WIKI. If you see ways to > fix it, or even just mark that it iseems out of date, that is an > improvement. Lots of small improvements will make a big difference. > (/me promises to put editing where mouth is.) > > An

[opensource-dev] Severe water flicker in recent development build

I'm seeing what I believe is the same problem described in SNOW-745 in our current development viewer. Second Life 2.1.2 (209297) I added some detail to the issue description. It's very irritating. I think we need to do something about it (might we be able to force Atmospheric Shaders to 'o

Re: [opensource-dev] Retaining Newbies (Was: The Plan for Snowglobe)

On 2010-09-11 14:11, Dilly Dobbs wrote: On 9/11/2010 1:05 PM, Robert Martin wrote: On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 1:52 PM, dilly dobbs wrote: We all seem like intelligent adults that could come to an agreement on how to add priority to the issues that we would like to see addressed. And yes i w

[opensource-dev] Where to put & look for test viewers

We have lots of community members who are ready and willing to try out the latest and greatest experiments and fixes from developers, and plenty of developers who have things that need testing (especially in circumstances and on platforms that the develop might not have). The trick is getting

Re: [opensource-dev] Where to put & look for test viewers

On 2010-09-17 12:20, Tom Grimshaw wrote: On 17/09/2010 17:16, Oz Linden (Scott Lawrence) wrote: We have lots of community members who are ready and willing to try out the latest and greatest experiments and fixes from developers, Are viewers with experimental OpenSim-targeted features welcome

Re: [opensource-dev] User Story: Improved Cache

On 2010-09-17 12:56, Ponzu wrote: > But some users want to be able to override this. I want a certain > location to always load fast, even if I rarely visit it. > > User story: I want to mark certain locations as "Fast Loading" even > if I do not visit them very often. This should override the

Re: [opensource-dev] Where to put & look for test viewers

On 2010-09-17 13:36, Ponzu wrote: > When will Snowstorm post a Development Viewer Snapshot - TBD > > 8-) already on the main secondlife.com downloads page (though we need a newer one) ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://w

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm - Product Engine?

On 2010-09-17 13:49, Brandon Husbands wrote: > It was a serious question. I wanted to know if LL did it or a 3rd > party contractor. not a insult. It doesn't matter... it's there, and we're going to have to deal with it (as in the recent changes to make panels detachable). ___

Re: [opensource-dev] Snowstorm - Product Engine?

On 2010-09-17 15:38, Brandon Husbands wrote: > I am actually about finished with my mod for v2. > > It takes the sidebar.cpp file and only that file leaves all public > method calls in. > But its rewritten to be a floater manager where if you want to call > say profile it launches it as a float

Re: [opensource-dev] Where to put & look for test viewers

On 2010-09-17 19:42, Trilo Byte wrote: > I agree, a newer one's needed (Phillip pledged to residents there would be > updates every 2 weeks, that doesn't seem to be happening). However, until > anti-aliasing gets fixed 2.1.2 isn't ready for prime time. we're still shaking down our processes, bu

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