Re: [opensource-dev] Draft update to the Contribution Agreement

2013-10-08 Thread Gigs
. Under most interpretations of copyright law, once a work is a derived work, you can't make it not a derived work, although you may be able to start from an earlier version that was not a derived work. -Gigs On 10/07/2013 06:50 PM, Henri Beauchamp wrote: > On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 15:29:5

Re: [opensource-dev] Review Request: Restructure loops that use breaks without need (reviewboard test)

2010-12-02 Thread Gigs
I'm getting "To protect your privacy, Thunderbird has blocked remote content." Why do the message include external images? As well because the "From" field is a person and not the list, I would have to whitelist every contributor to get rid of the message. On 12/02/2010 12:05 PM, Thickbrick

Re: [opensource-dev] Jira Issue Resolution Issue

2010-10-11 Thread Gigs
On 10/11/2010 12:44 PM, Robert Martin wrote: > 3 "WorkingOnIt Linden"* should only have an issue assigned for maybe > two weeks since a lot of times WorkingOnIt Linden means BlowingItOff > Linden is actually NOT working on it. Workingonit Linden should have never been created. "Working on it" s

Re: [opensource-dev] 2.0 Absolute Dealbreaker - script count feature request

2010-10-01 Thread Gigs
On 09/29/2010 07:06 PM, Kelly Linden wrote: > * In my mind the biggest issue is that mono scripts will appear 4x worse > than LSL scripts. This is really the reason I am hesitant to push a > function like this through before we have the ability for mono scripts > to better reflect how much memory t

Re: [opensource-dev] 2.0 Absolute Dealbreaker - script count feature request

2010-09-29 Thread Gigs
On 09/29/2010 10:17 AM, Ambrosia wrote: > Basically what the code does is request the inventory of every prim of > the selected object(s). However, 'brute forcing' probably sounds a > little wrong here, as the requests the code does already -are- indeed > throtteled. I can confirm this. I've writ

Re: [opensource-dev] Openjpeg/KDU the cold hard metrics

2010-09-22 Thread Gigs
On 09/22/2010 02:12 PM, Lillian Yiyuan wrote: > Doing this out of a local cache would make it clearer what the time > for the library is. I suspect these numbers understate the kdu > advantage. > I'm pretty sure Robin's test harness is very minimal, if you are thinking that there's a bloated clie

Re: [opensource-dev] Possibility to revert UI changes on snowstorm?

2010-09-21 Thread Gigs
On 09/20/2010 09:30 PM, Yoz Grahame wrote: > If you're asking about reverting the entire viewer UI to 1.x: in short, > no. In less short, we'd need an objective, well-reasoned argument > against each and every one of the several hundred UI changes between 1.x > and 2.x. See above. Why would the b

Re: [opensource-dev] the last press release...

2010-06-10 Thread Gigs
Apparently Zero has been fired as well? I guess that means interop and all the standards stuff is dead. ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to

Re: [opensource-dev] Where has "Spare time" gone in 2.0 ?

2010-04-26 Thread Gigs
Tayra Dagostino wrote: > http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Region#Region > > 2 full per core since some months > > some month ago when avarage lag spreaded against script time and other > parameter was low i ask here why this choice, so looking for around > found this page on wiki, nobody answer...

Re: [opensource-dev] Fwd: [gnu.org #566095] Possible Licensing Conflict

2010-04-20 Thread Gigs
Ron Festa wrote: > Not really. If you're a user basically that means you have to stop using > that viewer if you want to continue access. If you are a developer it > means you have to remove the ability to connect to SL. Again as per the > FSF ruling on this, they're restricting the service not

Re: [opensource-dev] Fwd: [gnu.org #566095] Possible Licensing Conflict

2010-04-20 Thread Gigs
I don't think Brett fully considered the implications of: "You acknowledge and agree that we may require you to stop using or distributing a Third-Party Viewer for accessing Second Life if we determine that there is a violation." Which is clearly in conflict with the GPL. Ron Festa wrote: > Si

Re: [opensource-dev] Quiet amendments of TPV (again)

2010-04-20 Thread Gigs
These look like positive changes that address some of the concerns. Thank you for your efforts Joe. Joe Linden wrote: > Boy, > > There was nothing quiet, or "in the background" about it, believe me. > This update is the topic of conversation at the noon PDT brown bag I'm > hosting today. The

[opensource-dev] New TOS - Compulsory patent licensing gone?

2010-03-31 Thread Gigs
Second Life used to be a software patent-free zone in that the TOS compelled every user to grant a license under any patent rights, effectively making patents inside of Second Life void. --- 3.2 paragraph 3 in the old TOS: You also understand and agree that by submitting your Content to any ar

Re: [opensource-dev] A note on preserving "NO WARRANTY" for SL TPV developers

2010-03-31 Thread Gigs
Carlo Wood wrote: > This is VERY good David. > > Someone should get the lawyers AND the management of LL to read this. > LL has already said the TPV policy won't be changed anymore. The only option remaining is for everyone to stop distributing a third party viewer. Except of course, the ones

Re: [opensource-dev] Detecting mouse over sky or water

2010-03-04 Thread Gigs
Also check LLViewerWindow::hitObjectOrLandGlobalAsync ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before posting to keep unmoderated posting privileges

Re: [opensource-dev] Detecting mouse over sky or water

2010-03-04 Thread Gigs
It's all jammed in LLAgent last I checked. Like I said, probably needs refactoring. Lockwood, Nick wrote: > Thanks for the tip Jason. Which class are you referring to when you say > "touch picking code?" > > > -Original Message- > From: Gigs [mail

Re: [opensource-dev] Detecting mouse over sky or water

2010-03-03 Thread Gigs
IIRC the touch picking code can tell you if you touched water sky or terrain. I don't think it's well abstracted though and may need to be moved into a new class. -Jason Lockwood, Nick wrote: > I’m working on a project to track what object is currently rendered at > the current mouse screen c

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV Policy makes Secondlife *content* incompatible with CC-SA licenses

2010-02-26 Thread Gigs
Argent Stonecutter wrote: > Gigs... I think what you're looking at is akin to Tivoization, and > providing an external source for Tivoized content is compatible with > GPL2 (and is one reason for the GPL3). > CC-SA has no external source provision, and specifically forbids any

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV Policy makes Secondlife *content* incompatible with CC-SA licenses

2010-02-24 Thread Gigs
Mike Dickson wrote: > Right. Person B has the responsibility to make available or point to an > unrestricted source for the content they upload to Second Life. The > same with GPL'd content. I don't see a reason why LL can't put > restrictions on content distribution within the service. It's t

Re: [opensource-dev] TPV Policy makes Secondlife *content* incompatible with CC-SA licenses

2010-02-24 Thread Gigs
Darmath wrote: > If I understand your comments in this regard correctly you appear to be > trying to suggest that because a recipient of a work covered by the > CC-SA or other like license has agreed with Linden Labs that they will > not export a work that doesn't bare their name as a creator t

[opensource-dev] TPV Policy makes Secondlife *content* incompatible with CC-SA licenses

2010-02-24 Thread Gigs
CC-SA says: "You may not offer or impose any terms on the Work that restrict the terms of this License or the ability of the recipient of the Work to exercise the rights granted to that recipient under the terms of the License." If anyone has uploaded CC-SA licensed textures or other materials

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy

2010-02-24 Thread Gigs
Lawson English wrote: > For a real life use case, the realxtend developers are currently > debating whether or not it is worth their while to continue to add more > support to SL rather than just go with OpenSim-only. Unless Linden Lab is willing to provide an already-banned channel ID for thir

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy

2010-02-23 Thread Gigs
Robin Cornelius wrote: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 8:31 PM, Soft Linden wrote: >> Mike's correct. >> >> If you see any wording that's ambiguous about that, let us know. > > > Well there are many other issues another couple are :- > There are many many other issues. * It gives Linden Lab the abi

Re: [opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy

2010-02-23 Thread Gigs
Soft Linden wrote: > On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Mike Dickson wrote: >> On 02/23/2010 02:16 PM, Gigs wrote: >>> http://secondlife.com/corporate/tpv.php >>> >>> You all realize this is massively incompatible with the GPL, right? >>> >> Not

[opensource-dev] Third party viewer policy

2010-02-23 Thread Gigs
http://secondlife.com/corporate/tpv.php You all realize this is massively incompatible with the GPL, right? ___ Policies and (un)subscribe information available here: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/OpenSource-Dev Please read the policies before postin