Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Change resolv.conf without using the NWAM GUI

2025-07-05 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
My thoughts exactly. When dual color and gray scale monitors, 64 MB of DRAM, Exabyte and 2 GB of disk was a deluxe system. Now we have tables of pointers to tables nested indenumerably deep behind a multitude of UI libraries consuming 2 GB to run a browser. I used to understand how everything

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnuplot on 2024.10?

2025-06-28 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
urday, June 28, 2025 at 01:59:18 PM CDT, Andreas Wacknitz via >openindiana-discuss wrote: >  >  Am 28.06.25 um 20:49 schrieb Stephan Althaus via openindiana-discuss: >> On 6/28/25 18:48, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: >>> uname -a >>> >>>

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnuplot on 2024.10?

2025-06-28 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
part I find most alarming is I updated the system late last year. Things have become very opaque, and for someone who started with WATFV and punchcards, the loss of discoverability. The ability to find out what the actual operation is, has become very difficult. Reg On Saturday, June 28, 2025

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnuplot on 2024.10?

2025-06-28 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
une 28, 2025 at 01:59:18 PM CDT, Andreas Wacknitz via openindiana-discuss wrote: Am 28.06.25 um 20:49 schrieb Stephan Althaus via openindiana-discuss: > On 6/28/25 18:48, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: >> uname -a >> >> SunOS hipster 5.11 illumos-845df4971

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Gnuplot on 2024.10?

2025-06-28 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
uname -a SunOS hipster 5.11 illumos-845df4971e i86pc i386 i86pc Here's the console log: root@hipster:/app# pkg install gnuplot Creating Plan (Solver setup): - pkg install: No matching version of image/gnuplot can be installed: Reject: pkg://openindiana.org/image/gnuplot@6.0.2-2024.0.0.0 Reas

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Σχετ: Configuring Brother MFC-7360N on Hipster How?

2025-05-31 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Apostolos. Thanks. I'll give that a try. *IF* it works, it will be the first time in my experience AI actually has produced useful results. I have a 30+ year history with hidden layer neural nets and have always had nothing but contempt for them. Going back to an early '80s DARPA project to id

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Configuring Brother MFC-7360N on Hipster How?

2025-05-31 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Brother provides .rpm and .deb files for the printer which is attached via wired ethernet. The OI printer database doesn't include a driver. Brother only offers .rpm and .deb files for Linux and then various files for MacOS X by release. Is there an OI native way to extract the PPD from a .rpm

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Language and attention to errors before posting

2025-05-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
e "Tower of Babel" in which the most essential human skill, language is being destroyed by careless indifference. Minor typographical errors completely alter meaning in English. Reg On Thursday, May 29, 2025 at 01:55:09 AM CDT, Jean-Pierre André via openindiana-discuss wrote: Regina

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Language and attention to errors before posting

2025-05-27 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
The English language is the norm for this list. However, many of the best people are not native English speakers. I have great admiration for them. Most are very careful and skillful. Some are arguably the best. As occurs to everyone, I make mistakes that repeated proofreading doesn't catch.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] European Disability Directives 2025

2025-05-27 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
e sector supply chain.This is a reference to > awareness > > not any legal advice.A web search of European Accessibility Act 2025 > should > > provide answers to initial questions. Regards Robert > > > > On Mon, 26 May 2025, 22:36 Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-di

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] European Disability Directives 2025

2025-05-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Robert, WTF? A bit of explanation would be useful. Link to the legislation perhaps? Some explanation beside merely a change of subject line. There is nothing in your reply or subject line that has logical continuity with the quoted posts about GIMP not working. I did not receive anything fol

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Error message

2025-04-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
sigh The temptation to stop using computers grows stronger every day. Since the mailing list won't allow an attachment here it is inline. I get a dialog saying the mount failed, but it actually succeeded. I'm beginning to wonder if anything resembling Unix still exists. Not being able to r

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Error message

2025-04-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
once more with feeling On Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 08:44:08 AM CDT, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: Well, that seems to have sent itself. I've attached a text file showing the mount time error messages. Screen shots did not work. Sometimes it doesn

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Error message

2025-04-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Well, that seems to have sent itself. I've attached a text file showing the mount time error messages. Screen shots did not work. Sometimes it doesn't mount, but I think that is worn out USB A sockets. Reg On Tuesday, April 29, 2025 at 08:39:38 AM CDT, Reginald Beardsley wrote:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Error message

2025-04-29 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
FWIW I get similar errors on 2024.10 and must unmount flash drives manually. It generates error messages when it mounts. This is bare OI, no VBox, on an HP Z840. I tried to include a screenshot, but was unable to make one or copy the text from the error dialog. It says it can't mount it, but

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Formation of an OpenIndiana Association: Call for initial members

2025-02-20 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
09:31:24 AM CST, Udo Grabowski (IMK) wrote: On 2/20/25 01:40, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: >  If they have so much desire to contribute why are they not members? >Seriously, why should dues paying members listen to people unwilling to pay >the dues at 30 Euros? It&

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Formation of an OpenIndiana Association: Call for initial members

2025-02-19 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
he discussion. Bob On Feb 19, 2025, 6:29 PM, at 6:29 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > > >Sorry, brain fart. Too much BS with groups.io lately. However, I think >the association should exist as a dues paying mailing list which is >open to public to read

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Formation of an OpenIndiana Association: Call for initial members

2025-02-19 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Sorry, brain fart. Too much BS with groups.io lately. However, I think the association should exist as a dues paying mailing list which is open to public to read and dues paying members to post. Have Fun! Reg On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 06:23:19 PM CST, Reginald Beardsley wrote:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Formation of an OpenIndiana Association: Call for initial members

2025-02-19 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I should like to suggest that the association form a public presence as a groups.io list which is publicly readable, but only allows posts by dues paying members. At 25 people there shouldn't be any cost and it makes everything we do transparent to all. Have Fun! Reg __

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Formation of an OpenIndiana Association: Call for initial members

2025-02-19 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I don't know if you've counted me, but I'm in. In my view this is long overdue. Happy to see it happening. Have Fun! Reg On Wednesday, February 19, 2025 at 12:06:10 PM CST, Till Wegmueller wrote: Two People to go. Who will get the 25th? -Till On 11.02.25 18:07, Till Wegmüller wr

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Formation of an OpenIndiana Association: Call for initial members

2025-02-13 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: >  > I am in the US, so attending a meeting is too costly and frankly I'm not sure > I'd contribute anything intellectually. Worse yet, I *hate* air travel. > > But I shall certainly subscribe to an annual membership fee that helps

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Formation of an OpenIndiana Association: Call for initial members

2025-02-12 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I am in the US, so attending a meeting is too costly and frankly I'm not sure I'd contribute anything intellectually. Worse yet, I *hate* air travel. But I shall certainly subscribe to an annual membership fee that helps support and promote OI. I should like to suggest that whatever the minim

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Desktop hung writing large ZFS stream to USB disk

2025-02-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I started a 400+ GB send to a USB HD on s10_u8. Next morning the desktop was hung and nothing would wake it, so I forced it down.The send apparently had not finished as an attempt to read it on the Z840 showed. So I deleted the partial stream and started over. This morning same situation.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS version issue

2025-01-31 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
To follow up. This turns out to be a weird tolerance mismatch or worn sockets on the Z840. The cables for the WD drives just don't fit the Z840 well. They are fine on the Z400s and other connectors are fine with the Z840, but not these cables and these sockets. Truly weird. I'll pull some sock

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS version issue

2025-01-28 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I bought a USB power monitor dongle and plugged it in. The drives decided they would work on the Z840. zpool import reported the drive correctly. Draws the same current as when plugged in the Z400s. I'm running a scrub, but when that finishes I'll test it without the power monitor dongle. Ve

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS version issue

2025-01-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I have verified all the USB ports on the Z840 using the flash drive and all function properly. The 4 TB ZFS volume is still getting scrubbed.on 2017. I have another identical drive not in ZFS format. Both WD drives are USB 3 with the double connector at the drive end. The 2nd one which is a "

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS version issue

2025-01-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
soon as all the scrubs finish. Reg On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 06:20:14 PM CST, Joshua M. Clulow wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 at 15:43, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > None of those show the USB HD. A flash drive did show up using mdb and it > automounted. S

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS version issue

2025-01-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
ove the level of email via a web site without it. Reg On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 05:43:16 PM CST, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: None of those show the USB HD. A flash drive did show up using mdb and it automounted. So the USB port is OK, but it doesn

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS version issue

2025-01-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
perly. I knew that things were just going too well when s10_u8 installed and ran on VBox on the first try with no issues at all. Reg On Thursday, January 23, 2025 at 05:01:19 PM CST, Joshua M. Clulow wrote: On Thu, 23 Jan 2025 at 14:54, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss

[OpenIndiana-discuss] ZFS version issue

2025-01-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I have a 4 TB USB HD which can be imported and exported by s10_u8 and Hipster 2017, but which produces no response to "zpool import" on Hipster 2024.10. 2017 reported it was an old format which means it was created on the s10_u8 system. Why can 2024.10 not even see it? Is ZFS really broken bet

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] updating openindiana on machines with openindiana2023.05

2025-01-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
FYI df(1) will tell you the system image which is running in a more human friendly manner by showing which of the roots is mounted. Have Fun! Reg > zfs list NAME USED AVAIL REFER MOUNTPOINT rpool 30.9G 4.25T 186K /rpool rpool/ROOT 16.8G 4.25T 140K legacy rpool/ROOT/2021-04-30 153M 4.25T 6.25G

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] updating openindiana on machines with openindiana2023.05

2025-01-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Stick a DVD in a USB optical drive? FWIW I recently did an update from 2021.04 to 2024.10 via DVD which went surprisingly smoothly. Came up just as you'd expect. There was no user data on the machine because by the time i configured it I was unwilling to touch it. Most brutal sys admin fight o

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Bhyve on Hipster 2024.10

2025-01-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'm sorry to say I don't understand the "legacy FW" bit. Does bhyve not present the OS with a virtual bare disk? I spent a good bit of time looking for technical details about bhyve and didn't find anything well written. I go back to the "great gray wall" of VMS and all through the workstation

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Bhyve on Hipster 2024.10

2025-01-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
akes sense to me, but at 71 not much of computing makes sense any more. Too many layers of jargon and "automagic" :-( Thanks, Reg On Wednesday, January 22, 2025 at 04:38:35 PM CST, Bill Sommerfeld via openindiana-discuss wrote: On 1/22/25 14:32, Reginald Beardsley via openi

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Bhyve on Hipster 2024.10

2025-01-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
How are these related? pkg://openindiana.org/system/bhyve pkg://openindiana.org/system/zones/brand/bhyve pkg://openindiana.org/system/library/bhyve Can all be installed at the same time? BTW A docs.openindiana.org search brings up a reference to the most recent release

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster desktop configuration questions

2025-01-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Till, Please, tell me more. I got one of the first Plan 9 floppies at Usenix '95. I'd already read all the papers before the disk became available. Spent time talking to dmr about the enterprise scaling aspects which were never implemented. Far superior to anything in use today at scale. I ra

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster desktop configuration questions

2025-01-20 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I have a Z840 that has a single 24 core processor, 92 GB ECC DRAM, a 4.2 TB   RAIDZ2 pool and a 3.6 TB  RAIDZ1 pool on four 4 TB SATA drives.  I'd like to  share the RAIDZ1 pool with Win 7, Debian 12 and Solaris 10_u8 instances,  potentially with all 4 system images running at the same time. I rec

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Update from 2021.04 to 2024.10

2025-01-13 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Z840 96 GB ECC DRAM 4x 4 TB SATA drives Sliced to provide RAIDZ2 and RAIDZ1 pools It actually appears to have worked. We'll see. After I scrub the system I'll create a user account and see how it goes. The LiveDVD has a Gparted icon, but no executable. Really kids. I remember the discussi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] problem adding a mirror disk to rpool

2023-01-02 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Partition the disk so you have a partition that matches the size of your other disks in the pool. Then mount that partition. On Monday, January 2, 2023, 08:31:38 PM CST, Marc Lobelle wrote: Hello, First, Best wished for 2023 to everybody ! I tried to add a second 480Gb disk to my

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Any reasons tree /export/home/USERS shouldn't be moved to a different pool

2022-01-12 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Absolutely none. I have all of /export in epool. The default configuration produced by the installer is intended to keep new users out of trouble. It's a tad aggressive about that and can cause an experienced user some annoyance. I allocate space for the root pool based on the expectation of

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] CDE...

2021-12-19 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I figured out how it worked so I could run twm instead. I can't think of a piece of software I hated more than Motif. On Sunday, December 19, 2021, 07:13:25 PM CST, Judah Richardson wrote: I remember using this on Sun workstations in college back when I was learning Fortran. My favo

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Why are DOS executables being installed?

2021-06-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'm working on system image audit tools and found these in 2021.04.30: /usr/lib/python3.5/distutils/command/wininst-9.0-amd64.exe: DOS executable (EXE) /usr/lib/python3.5/distutils/command/wininst-9.0.exe: DOS executable (EXE) /usr/lib/python3.5/distutils/command/wininst-8.0.exe: DOS exec

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Dangling symlinks in 2021.04.30?

2021-06-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Are these dangling links or are they used to dynamically redirect things and missing another link? /usr/share/lib/sgml/locale/ja_JP.UTF-8/entities:symbolic link to ../C/entities /usr/share/lib/sgml/locale/ja_JP.UTF-8/transpec/roff.cmap: symbolic link to ../../C/transpec/roff.cmap /

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-22 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
eller wrote: Hi Everyone Can you check that library/desktop/libgksu and desktop/gksu are installed? Those are the most problematic candidates to be missing. -Till On 21.06.21 17:34, Gary Mills wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 08:17:57PM +, Reginald Beardsley via > openindiana-di

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > FYI  I wrapped both caja and mate-session with "truss -f -o". Neither output > contains the "Initializing gksu extensions" string.  ... Note that you usually don't see full strings in truss output, those are printed usually

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
wrote: Hi Everyone Can you check that library/desktop/libgksu and desktop/gksu are installed? Those are the most problematic candidates to be missing. -Till On 21.06.21 17:34, Gary Mills wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 08:17:57PM +, Reginald Beardsley via > openindiana-dis

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
FYI I wrapped both caja and mate-session with "truss -f -o". Neither output contains the "Initializing gksu extensions" string. I have created OI issue #13895 to provide a place for a subset of the truss output between consecutive excve()s of caja. Total output before I could kill the sessio

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-21 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
The problems I was having appear to have been caused by caja restarting. The system stayed up with the mouse functional overnight. Before I disabled caja it would lock up the cursor in an hour or less. I'll wrap caja with a script that runs "truss -f -o" to find out why it is failing and do th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-20 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Tim, Thanks. I don't have the gl-helper stuff anywhere. I'd never seen that message before either. This is the LiveImage text install to an existing pool so I could do both RAIDZ2 and RAIDZ1. So it *is* a bit different. I had to create dump and swap among other things. I found via top that c

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-20 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
e to wait a while to find out if I still have a problem or if "unset autologout" and disabling caja resolved it. A search using find in /etc & /root did not locate where autologout was set. Reg On Sunday, June 20, 2021, 04:59:28 PM CDT, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-di

[OpenIndiana-discuss] More 2021.04.30 strangeness

2021-06-20 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I've started to transition all my computing to 2021.04.30 on the Z840. I created a pair of pools, one with primary-cache=all and one with primary-cache=metadata. The first is 4.3 TB RAIDZ2 and the second 3.8 TB RAIDZ1. It's a 4x 4 TB disk set with a 1 TB NVMe SSD for the L2ARC, split 980 GB

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [discuss] Re: NVMe SSD

2021-06-18 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
On Friday, June 18, 2021, 01:51:07 PM CDT, Tony Brian Albers wrote: Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I just added a 1 TB WD SN750 NVMe SSD to my Z840 running Hipster 2021.04.31.  > Now I need to set it up. > > I have read the FreeBSD Master volumes

[OpenIndiana-discuss] NVMe SSD

2021-06-16 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I just added a 1 TB WD SN750 NVMe SSD to my Z840 running Hipster 2021.04.31. Now I need to set it up. I have read the FreeBSD Master volumes by Lucas and Jude on the subject, but the information is skimpy. A search didn't turn up much that is relevant and less still that is useful. I want to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] OI Foundation

2021-05-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I just want a way to contribute money to support OI/Illumos. TANSTAFL I was going to suggest one of the commercial Illumos based companies managing OI specific work with whatever money was provided and taking a cut to offset the cost of managing it. All I want it a way to provide $200-$250 US

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] OI Foundation

2021-05-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Do we need an OI specific organization? Why could this not be handled by the existing Illumos Foundation? That was what I was going to propose. We're using the same base OS. So far as I know, OI just adds GUI support. So having the Illumos Foundation simply maintain a ledger entry for OI speci

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] [oi-dev] OI Foundation

2021-05-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Thanks for offering to do this. I've been pondering how to hire human resources to support OI, but somewhat reluctant to post about it as I tried 8-10 years ago without success. I am *very* interested in contributing money to such an organization on an annual basis at around $200/yr. In partic

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

2021-05-04 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I did just that. I hit "install" took the defaults, did a reboot and got "non-system disk or disk error". Z840 and 4 TB disk. I got that result with both 2020.10.31 and 2021.04.30. What I did is *exactly* what most new users would do. I just checked the other stuff to see if the image was cons

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

2021-05-04 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
very out of date. Reg On Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 03:04:56 PM CDT, Joshua M. Clulow wrote: On Tue, 4 May 2021 at 12:44, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: >  I'd be glad to fix them if I knew where the files that need to be modified >were located. Please enlight

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

2021-05-04 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
e barrier. Reg On Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 01:21:21 PM CDT, Bob Friesenhahn wrote: On Tue, 4 May 2021, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > > All of these issues are also present in 2020.10.31 and possibly > older releases.  This is a huge deterrent to new users.  No

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] We have install images which work!

2021-05-04 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I was doing bare metal on an HP Z840. Does anyone know of any documentation on the VBox boot process? It's obviously not running the BIOS initial loader to read the first sector on the disk. Reg On Tuesday, May 4, 2021, 01:35:59 PM CDT, epektasis wrote: FWIW, I downloaded the 2021.04.30

[OpenIndiana-discuss] We need install images which work!

2021-05-04 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'm going to try one more time. --- The 2021.04.30 GUI Live Image has major problems. gparted(1m) dumps core the documentation mentioned on the first GUI installer screen is missing

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

2021-05-03 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
A response to a couple of Judah's posts. I experiment with many operating systems including Plan 9 for which I got one of the first release floppies at Usenix '95 and chatted about it with Dennis for about 20-30 minutes. My interest in OI is not curiosity. I want a stable, industrial strength

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Multiboot on PC

2021-05-03 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I have a laptop that boots XP, Linux and Solaris. That cost me about a dozen install attempts to make work. Then I never used it as I was able to avoid traveling. Subsequently I've always simply swapped hard drives when I wanted to switch the OS. I did recently set up to dual boot Windows 7 an

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Rolling release considered harmful

2021-05-03 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I just finished running the graphic installer on 2020.10.31 and 2021.04.30 ISOs. It would be an understatement to say the results were not good. 1) The documentation mentioned on the first screen is missing as noted previously 2) The release notes button produces a "unable to display release n

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Multiboot on PC

2021-05-03 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Yes it is possible, however, it can be tricky preventing one installer from stepping on another OS. In particular Linux and Solaris partitions use the same number to denote partition type. The way around that is to use fdisk to change the partition type to DOS or similar, install and then fix t

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Recommended way to migrate to a new release?

2021-05-03 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Alan is, of course, correct. You can't have *all* of them fixed in a code base as large as a modern OS. But you can fix the important stuff. And what a prospective user experiences when they boot the Live Image and attempt an install is critical. When experienced people have major problems doi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Recommended way to migrate to a new release?

2021-05-02 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
The Design and Implementation of the FreeBSD Operating System McKusick, Neville-Neil & Watson Addison-Wesley 2015 2nd ed Chapter 10: The Zettabyte Filesystem It's only 26 pages, but it's the only description of the internals of ZFS I've been able to find. The FreeBSD Mastery books on ZFS by L

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Recommended way to migrate to a new release?

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
nt to make it as stable as possible so that new people can install it from the snapshot medias. Historically it was also a point, where we could snapshot the Repo so people could jump between publishers, but that has changed. -Till On 01.05.21 20:05, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Recommended way to migrate to a new release?

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
th wrote: On 5/1/21 3:31 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I tried a text-install of 2021.04.30  into an existing 2020.10.31 pool, but > the user information didn't propagate to the new BE.  Is this a bug, install > mistake or the wrong way to update? The wrong

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Hipster 2021.04 is here

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Thanks! On Saturday, May 1, 2021, 05:25:16 PM CDT, Joshua M. Clulow wrote: On Sat, 1 May 2021 at 10:05, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > How about a pkg or explicit instructions (e.g. a shell script) for setting up > to be able to generate an ISO?

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Recommended way to migrate to a new release?

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I tried a text-install of 2021.04.30  into an existing 2020.10.31 pool, but the user information didn't propagate to the new BE.  Is this a bug, install mistake or the wrong way to update? All the stuff I found on the wiki was quite old.  Nothing discussed updates from one Hipster release to th

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OpenIndiana Hipster 2021.04 is here

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
On Saturday, May 1, 2021, 09:16:45 AM CDT, Andreas Wacknitz wrote: [snip] >I want to use this announcement to remind everybody that we are seeking >for volunteers who help us to maintain OpenIndiana. >Kind regards, >Andreas How about a pkg or explicit instructions (e.g. a shell script) for s

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
ll your efforts on this. I really do appreciate it. Michelle. On Sat, 2021-05-01 at 16:23 +, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana- discuss wrote: >  I just installed the 2021.04.30 text ISO on my Z400 test system. The > disk had a pool in a single slice which I imported and destroyed. Had

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
, the solaris partition was only 2tb max. However, I've just noted that I wasn't using the -e at the end of the format command, so after I've made dinner I'll read up on that switch in the hope that this is what will enable me to create the larger Solaris partition. Michel

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
2020.10 and on that, I can't create a Solaris partition greater than 2tb. I've got the GUI live image here somewhere. Michelle. On Sat, 2021-05-01 at 13:50 +, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana- discuss wrote: >  What release are you trying to install? I last did this using >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Michelle, What disks are you trying to use? If they are different sizes the recipe gets a bit more complex, but it's quite possible to get any arrangement for which you have a sufficient number of disks. Having spent 50 hours over 5 days battling the 2021.04.05 install I've had *lots* of pract

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
imit and if I then try and create the EFI partition, it > > won't > > co-exist with anything and wants to wipe the whole disk again. > > > > Michelle. > > MBR and GPT can not co-exist. On this disk, you need GPT and this > means, MBR partitions will be removed.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Toomas, Thanks for the explanation. That certainly sounds like a good idea. It provides lots of flexibility. It would nice if the text-installer allowed specifying the BE name when creating a fresh pool or defaulted to the release, e.g. 2021.04, instead of openindiana. The latter is not very

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Partitions for co-exist NAS drive

2021-05-01 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I just went through several iterations of this, and like you the last time I had done it was long ago. The following is based on 2021.04.05. Large disks require an EFI or GPT label. The gparted program creates 128 slices which is a bit much. format(1m) will also write an EFI label which is usa

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Does anyone have an example of service manifest XML file for znapzend?

2021-04-30 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
You might try looking at the Solaris 11.1 documentation. I downloaded all of it to my iPad today, but have not read it yet. I found the smf facility rather opaque when I started looking at the files in /lib/svc. Not a good answer, but it's all I know at present. Similarly, I want to do somet

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI on USB flash drive

2021-04-30 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
at would help > > Michelle. > > On Fri, 2021-04-30 at 20:00 +, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana- > discuss wrote: >>  Try selecting the "reconfigure" option when you first boot the >> installed image. >> >> It is *supposed* to reconfi

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI on USB flash drive

2021-04-30 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
ns as the first time after the install. It came up all the way when I hit ^d at the single user prompt. Reg On Friday, April 30, 2021, 04:21:19 PM CDT, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: I've started an install of 2021.04.05 to a 32 GB flash drive on a Z400. I'll see

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI on USB flash drive

2021-04-30 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
't find anything obvious that would help Michelle. On Fri, 2021-04-30 at 20:00 +, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana- discuss wrote: >  Try selecting the "reconfigure" option when you first boot the > installed image. > > It is *supposed* to reconfigure, but I spent 5

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI on USB flash drive

2021-04-30 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Try selecting the "reconfigure" option when you first boot the installed image. It is *supposed* to reconfigure, but I spent 50 hrs before I found out how to get 2021.04.05 to boot after the install. I thought the issue was the particular nVIDIA driver, but that was not the case. I also got

[OpenIndiana-discuss] X startup/shutdown questions

2021-04-27 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
What service starts the MATE environment? I've been unable to locate what starts that. And generally unable to determine how exactly what any service does is specified. I'd expected "init 2" in single user mode to take me to multi-user console mode, but it did not. However, I was able to dis

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] VBox on top of Hipster and twm?

2021-04-27 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
12:50:16 AM CDT, Stephan Althaus wrote: On 04/27/21 12:19 AM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I'd like to run Hipster in a VBox VM for web access with twm as the window > manager for the host. > > Is this likely to be possible, i.e. how much window manager stu

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] TeX Live 2021 available for OpenIndiana

2021-04-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I should also like to thank you. I use groff and TeX. Groff for short memoranda and TeX for almost everything else. Reading the old Bell Labs papers I fell in love with the style they used for technical papers. Have Fun! Reg On Monday, April 26, 2021, 07:33:29 PM CDT, Jason Martin wro

[OpenIndiana-discuss] VBox on top of Hipster and twm?

2021-04-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I'd like to run Hipster in a VBox VM for web access with twm as the window manager for the host. Is this likely to be possible, i.e. how much window manager stuff does VBox require? If not I can revert to using 2 window managers, but I'd rather not if I can avoid the added complexity and

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] OI-hipster-gui-20210405.iso and OVirt/QEMU status report

2021-04-26 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Nelson, Thank you for testing this. I elected to install 2020.10 to use as a base for learning how to update the system without reinstalling if that is possible. I *think* the network menu bar icon is supposed to start /usr/lib/nwam-manager. I get a dialog popup using 2020.10 that asks for au

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Initial install of 2020.10 on Z840 for production use

2021-04-25 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
ROFL! I just noticed I didn't speciy a count. It had written 5.5 TB at over 200 MB/s and would have continued until I filled all 6.7 TB of space. I assume *nothing* about computers. I assert that the difference between a senior and junior person is the junior person makes assumptions that the s

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Initial install of 2020.10 on Z840 for production use

2021-04-25 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
= 0x60854df5 0x34e6fb59 rhb@Z840:~$ On Sunday, April 25, 2021, 04:27:12 PM CDT, Joshua M. Clulow wrote: On Sun, 25 Apr 2021 at 13:46, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I've done a fresh install using the text installer on a 14 core E5-2680 V4 > system with 7

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Initial install of 2020.10 on Z840 for production use

2021-04-25 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
Here's some info. The dd of /dev/zero is still running after almost 6 hours which is mind boggling, because before the 2020.10 install 2021.01-rc1 did it in ~1:11. I want to let it finish before I take it down and pull the 8 GB DIMM. It's quite singular. I've never seen anything like this befor

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Initial install of 2020.10 on Z840 for production use

2021-04-25 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I've done a fresh install using the text installer on a 14 core E5-2680 V4 system with 72 GB of ECC DRAM and a 4x 4 TB 7200 rpm RAIDZ2 array. With reconfigure set on the post install boot it all came up fine. The prior install of 2021.04-rc1 gave ~220 MB/s for reads and writes and 87 MB/s for

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-25 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I have been using labelclear which is a huge improvement. In the past I had to write a script to do it using dd. So far I've been unable to find a good diagram showing the various disk labels, boot blocks, etc. The best documentation I've found to date is the ZFS chapter in McKusick et al. I'v

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-24 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
FWIW I saw the messages that Nelson posted at the start of this discussion on systems that booted. However, they very likely had relic zfs labels. I've had mysterious "corrupted pools" appear which I was only able to fix by using dd(1) to wipe out the old label. I've come to the conclusion tha

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] The kiss of death

2021-04-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
I should like to say that from my perspective as the person who started this thread I consider your results 100% successful. My goal was to increase the involvement of the user community in the process of creating a new release. It is a tremendous amount of work and many of us such as myself h

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Successfull reboot of 2021.04-rc1 on Z840 w/ K5000 :-)

2021-04-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
t from the drubbing the Z840 gave me, I'm going to fix the SEGVs in format(1m). Have Fun! Reg On Friday, April 23, 2021, 03:37:30 PM CDT, Judah Richardson wrote: On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 2:43 PM Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: It *appears* to be connect

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Successfull reboot of 2021.04-rc1 on Z840 w/ K5000 :-)

2021-04-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
April 23, 2021, 03:21:01 PM CDT, Stephan Althaus wrote: On 04/23/21 09:42 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > It *appears* to be connected with selecting options 5, 6 & 7 before booting > to multi-user.  I'll investigate further after it's been runni

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Successfull reboot of 2021.04-rc1 on Z840 w/ K5000 :-)

2021-04-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
It *appears* to be connected with selecting options 5, 6 & 7 before booting to multi-user. I'll investigate further after it's been running a while. I'm supposed have 64 GB of DRAM arrive today. I'm purely guessing, but I suspect that the "Reconfigure" option is what made it work. This insta

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] zpool import not possible after slot change

2021-04-23 Thread Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
lucky, this is going back on Monday and I'll get an older machine which is less likely to have driver issues. Reg On Thursday, April 22, 2021, 11:15:13 PM CDT, Joshua M. Clulow wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2021 at 19:10, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss wrote: > I do *not* und

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