On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 20:32, John D Groenveld wrote:
> In message <1078948242.36904.1614743360...@mail.yahoo.com>, Reginald Beardsley
> via openindiana-discuss writes:
> >I hit F10, changed from IDE to AHCI+RAID, saved and booted. What are you
> >sugge
> >sting?
>
> Next boot the installation med
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On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 10:45 AM, Reginald Beardsley
wrote:
> If the ISO is not "stable" it's not even worth doing. Kirk is brilliant, but
> he just describes the concepts.
> I'll see what the new book has to say and then compare it to the
> implementation.
In message <1078948242.36904.1614743360...@mail.yahoo.com>, Reginald Beardsley
via openindiana-discuss writes:
>I hit F10, changed from IDE to AHCI+RAID, saved and booted. What are you sugge
>sting?
Next boot the installation media and follow the recipe
to obtain the PCI ID for the disk controlle
Gad!
The BSD rc.d system is the epitome of the Unix tradition of "ease of
discovery". The Sys V inittab was OK, but not as flexible. SMF was designed for
very large system environments which no longer exist. And Sun had to
grandfather both BSD and Sys V ISV installs which simply made it more
I hit F10, changed from IDE to AHCI+RAID, saved and booted. What are you
suggesting?
As a practical matter 60 MB/s write is not bad. Certainly good enough for this
machine even with 32 GB of RAM in place of the current 8 GB.
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 09:04:12 PM CST, Gary Mills
wrote:
If the ISO is not "stable" it's not even worth doing. Kirk is brilliant, but he
just describes the concepts.
I'll see what the new book has to say and then compare it to the implementation.
On Tuesday, March 2, 2021, 09:01:10 PM CST, cretin1997
wrote:
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On 2021-03-02 03:20, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
Another weakness of FreeBSD is the init system of it that has to be
mitigated by
tools like daemontools.
No offense, but this is false.
Some embrace the KISS principle praise it for it
deterministic and simplicity. But when compa
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On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 3:01 AM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
wrote:
> I tried that, but probably not at the appropriate time. I'd likely done the
> "dd if=/dev/zero..." already. I was annoyed and got out the big hammer. So by
> the time I tri
On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 09:42:45PM +, Reginald Beardsley wrote:
> Does *not* work on my Z400 machine. I reset the BIOS to "AHCI+RAID"
>and the 2020.10 GUI installer enters maintenance mode. prtconf -v won't
>even run.
I wonder if you made the change too late in the boot process? W
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 11:20 PM, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
wrote:
> FWIW
>
> I invoked it from the desktop.
>
> It should either work or not be there.
>
> BTW I'm going to install FreeBSD 12.2 and run a script that walks the port
> tree just
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 11:15 PM, Chris wrote:
> On 2021-02-28 07:38, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
>
> The reason is or should be, because of its potential cost. That is;
> compression can consume a great deal more CPU cycles. So if the host has
> l
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On Wednesday, March 3, 2021 12:34 AM, Chris wrote:
>
> All rubbish aside. It's not that nobody cares. In fact, if I could set an
> hours
> time aside. I could get the alsalib packaged for IO. So now that it's
> available
> and installed. You'll ask; why doesn't my
In message <7749906e-c8f6-84e8-1946-7e16caf31...@ndsu.edu>, Tim Mooney via open
indiana-discuss writes:
>That may be true, but both Jedi and I tried several different Dell systems
>in late 2019 (mostly PowerEdge R710, R720, and R730 servers for me) and could
>not get a successful OI install on any
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 6:14 PM Tim Mooney via openindiana-discuss <
openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote:
> In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster 2020.10 text installer
> ISO...:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 1:25 PM Reginald Beardsley via
> openindiana-discuss <
> > openindiana-dis
In regard to: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Hipster 2020.10 text installer ISO...:
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 1:25 PM Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss <
openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote:
The HP BIOS is the screwiest one I've ever come across.
Can confirm via my HP ProBook. Dell'
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 1:25 PM Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss <
openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote:
>
> The HP BIOS is the screwiest one I've ever come across.
Can confirm via my HP ProBook. Dell's BIOSes are a lot better.
My first Z400 cost $1100, but several years ago I got
Does *not* work on my Z400 machine. I reset the BIOS to "AHCI+RAID" and the
2020.10 GUI installer enters maintenance mode. prtconf -v won't even run.
With it set to "IDE" in the BIOS it reports "82801JI (ICH10 family) 4 port SATA
IDE" and the same message but "2 port".
"RAID" never appears in
I tried that, but probably not at the appropriate time. I'd likely done the
"dd if=/dev/zero..." already. I was annoyed and got out the big hammer. So by
the time I tried it, it didn't matter. Also it was a FreeBSD "zroot" label.
After I play with the AHCI stuff I may repeat the situation.
Hav
Hmm I had a look this seems deep in the templates. I'll see that I can
remove those, they are defunct anyway.
Thanks for reporting.
-Till
On 02.03.21 13:47, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
I don't see it waiting, but I do see in the page source, at the bottom
of https://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/
As noted earlier, Damn the torpedos, full speed ahead! Send me the dtrace.
I've been wanting to learn that better for quite a while. I'm pretty sure I
have the book, but haven't had the motivation.
I'm doing one of my unplanned, purely random projects. I've dropped around $200
on books on Free
In message <1394386638.2119053.1614702010...@mail.yahoo.com>, Reginald Beardsle
y via openindiana-discuss writes:
>BTW I'm going to install FreeBSD 12.2 and run a script that walks the port tre
>e just to see how much actually will build without manual intervention. I sus
poudriere(8) is a good s
On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 at 07:37, Reginald Beardsley via oi-dev
wrote:
> There clearly is a need for a "zfs unlabel " option to remove label
> cruft. I ran into the problem with a 3 TB disk 7-8 years ago. On that
> occasion I was a bit more thoughtful and searched for the pool label and did
> a more
> On 2. Mar 2021, at 21:32, Reginald Beardsley via openindiana-discuss
> wrote:
>
>
> LoL!
>
> It has become completely nuts. We have MBR, GPT, EFI UEFI and probably some I
> don't yet know about. They may or may not be exactly the same depending upon
> the persuasions of the OS or progra
LoL!
It has become completely nuts. We have MBR, GPT, EFI UEFI and probably some I
don't yet know about. They may or may not be exactly the same depending upon
the persuasions of the OS or program.
Having wasted a couple of days going down this rabbit hole, I plan to be more
cautious. Yeah,
The HP BIOS is the screwiest one I've ever come across. My first Z400 cost
$1100, but several years ago I got 3x Z400's for a total of $300 delivered.
They are all the older 4 DIMM machines w/ 2.67 GHz quad core W3520 processors,
but you sure can't beat the price. Lately I've been eyeing a Z82
> On 2. Mar 2021, at 21:08, Gary Mills wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 09:17:31AM -0500, John D Groenveld wrote:
>> In message <20210302014545.ga6...@imap.fastmail.com>, Gary Mills writes:
>>> These are Solaris partions, now called slices. They are within a
>>> single FDISK partition. You
In message <20210302190828.ga16...@imap.fastmail.com>, Gary Mills writes:
>Sorry. I should not have replied. I've never used GPT disks,
Its fun to play with these under OI with VirtualBox or bhyve(5).
John
groenv...@acm.org
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On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 09:17:31AM -0500, John D Groenveld wrote:
> In message <20210302014545.ga6...@imap.fastmail.com>, Gary Mills writes:
> >These are Solaris partions, now called slices. They are within a
> >single FDISK partition. You can use the partition command within
> >format to see the
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 4:16 PM Chris wrote:
> On 2021-02-28 07:38, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
> > zfs get compression and zfs get compressratio results seemed to tell
> that
> > it's not
> > on by default. But, why?
> The reason is or should be, because of its potential cost. That
> On 2. Mar 2021, at 20:25, Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
>
> The ENOENTs refer to libraries associated with the optional 3rd party
> commercial product Veritas Volume Manager. format attempts to check for
> conflicting uses of a raw device, such as if it is being managed by VxVM,
> Solaris Di
In message <0679fa41-d544-7007-44fd-b00b3a5c9...@kit.edu>, "Udo Grabowski (IMK)
" writes:
>since that mode is just slow. Get yourself into AHCI mode first,
>along the guidelines Gary just posted (and that should've worked
>out of the box, these HPE guys manage to break everything...).
Does HP's BI
Le Mardi 2 mars 2021, Chris a écrit :
> On 2021-03-02 09:56, Judah Richardson wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:43 AM Chris wrote:
> >
> >> On 2021-03-01 06:33, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
> >> > We have the tech there. Well adapted for our needs. APT+DPKG based
> >> Illumos
>
The ENOENTs refer to libraries associated with the optional 3rd party
commercial product Veritas Volume Manager. format attempts to check for
conflicting uses of a raw device, such as if it is being managed by VxVM,
Solaris Disk Suite, ZFS, etc. In this case, it attempts to dynamically load the
On 2021-03-02 09:56, Judah Richardson wrote:
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:43 AM Chris wrote:
On 2021-03-01 06:33, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
> We have the tech there. Well adapted for our needs. APT+DPKG based
Illumos
> distro
> is not unpopular. Some distros even use RPM.
>
> Most
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:43 AM Chris wrote:
> On 2021-03-01 06:33, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
> > We have the tech there. Well adapted for our needs. APT+DPKG based
> Illumos
> > distro
> > is not unpopular. Some distros even use RPM.
> >
> > Most historic APT+DPKG based distros a
Don't waste your time with this: You are in IDE emulation mode, and
even if you get that working somehow you won't be happy at all,
since that mode is just slow. Get yourself into AHCI mode first,
along the guidelines Gary just posted (and that should've worked
out of the box, these HPE guys manag
On 2021-03-01 06:33, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
We have the tech there. Well adapted for our needs. APT+DPKG based Illumos
distro
is not unpopular. Some distros even use RPM.
Most historic APT+DPKG based distros already dead, only DilOS is left now.
So we
could have a look at Di
I was able to patch the path to the libraries, but the open still fails and
then SEGV faults. From the ENOTSUP error I presume I need to fix the vtoc I
wiped out in my haste. But it's some small progress and I know a little bit
more. Probably time for a browse through the Internals 1st ed.
Reg
On 2021-03-01 06:11, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
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On Monday, March 1, 2021 8:58 PM, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss
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On Thursday, February 25, 2021 9:14 AM, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss
openindiana-d
Gary,
Thanks. That's *very* nteresting. I shall have to study that closely.
I ran "truss -f -o truss.out format -e /dev/rdsk/c4d0"
down at the end of a *very* long output is this tidbit. Note the ENOENTs. The
libraries being sought are in /lib and were found previously. I'm rather
puzzled th
On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 03:37:23PM +, Reginald Beardsley via oi-dev wrote:
>Thank you again. Very helpful. The Z400 will only support IDE mode.
>ACHI+RAID is the other option which I think only works with Windows. I
>know it will not work with Solaris and feel fairly certain it does
I don't see it waiting, but I do see in the page source, at the bottom
of https://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/index.shtml :
Hi
It doesn't do that for me.
Can you send me the output of the Network connections in devtools when
you are opening the page?
Greetings
Till
On 02.03.21 02:15, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
This site here:
https://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/index.shtml
It's very slow. Som
FWIW
I invoked it from the desktop.
It should either work or not be there.
BTW I'm going to install FreeBSD 12.2 and run a script that walks the port tree
just to see how much actually will build without manual intervention. I
suspect that will produce a bit of a stir.
root@openindiana:/jack
On 2021-02-28 07:38, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
zfs get compression and zfs get compressratio results seemed to tell that
it's not
on by default. But, why?
The reason is or should be, because of its potential cost. That is;
compression can consume a great deal more CPU cycles. So
Toomas,
Thank you again. Very helpful. The Z400 will only support IDE mode. ACHI+RAID
is the other option which I think only works with Windows. I know it will not
work with Solaris and feel fairly certain it doesn't work with Linux or *BSD
either.
As pstack is not familiar to me I didn't int
NVMe "disks" are managed (only?) using nvmeadm:
nvmeadm namespace -v
should list them.
(apparently "nvmeadm list" lists controllers, which can have one or more
namespaces (sections of its total storage which more or less correspond to
disks))
I don't know if any sort of NVM drive that doesn't
You can use smartmontools for this on almost any distribution.
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:14 AM Thebest videos
wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> I need to find out the type of disk(HDD,SSD and NVM) which is attached. any
> command or any logic to find the disk type.
> preferred solution: command or logic
> __
In message
, Thebest videos writes:
>sorry stephan! This is not solving my problem on my freebsd. any
>alternative?
freebsd-questions.
https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/eresources/#eresources-mail>
John
groenv...@acm.org
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If you want speed, I recommend searching Repology.
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 11:16 PM cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss <
openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote:
> This site here:
>
> https://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/index.shtml
>
> It's very slow. Sometimes it's even slower because it wa
sorry stephan! This is not solving my problem on my freebsd. any
alternative?
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 7:09 PM Stephan Althaus <
stephan.alth...@duedinghausen.eu> wrote:
> On 03/02/21 02:18 PM, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Tuesday, March 2, 2
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:39 PM, Peter Tribble
wrote:
>
> The terms under which this is permitted are covered by the redistribution
> license
>
> http://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml
>
> If you can point to something that violates this (specifically Point 8)
> t
In message <20210302014545.ga6...@imap.fastmail.com>, Gary Mills writes:
>These are Solaris partions, now called slices. They are within a
>single FDISK partition. You can use the partition command within
>format to see the slices. You can use the fdisk command within format
>to see the FDISK pa
On Tue, Mar 2, 2021 at 11:31 AM cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss <
openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org> wrote:
> I don't know the email address of Peter Tribble so I post here hopefully
> he will see it.
>
> Just tried your OS on VirtualBox. It's amazing, a full desktop that's only
> 2GB in tota
On 03/02/21 02:18 PM, cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote:
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:13 PM, Thebest videos
wrote:
Hi Team,
I need to find out the type of disk(HDD,SSD and NVM) which is attached. any
command or any logic to find the disk type.
preferred
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 8:13 PM, Thebest videos
wrote:
> Hi Team,
>
> I need to find out the type of disk(HDD,SSD and NVM) which is attached. any
> command or any logic to find the disk type.
> preferred solution: command or logic
>
> openindiana-discuss maili
Hi Team,
I need to find out the type of disk(HDD,SSD and NVM) which is attached. any
command or any logic to find the disk type.
preferred solution: command or logic
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> On 2. Mar 2021, at 13:08, cretin1997 wrote:
>
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 3:35 PM, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, the code of format command is mess (I have been in it more than I would
>> like to;), also we would need better to
I don't know the email address of Peter Tribble so I post here hopefully he
will see it.
Just tried your OS on VirtualBox. It's amazing, a full desktop that's only 2GB
in total. The OI's VM should be 4x than that.
I installed the Pale Moon browser and I noticed you did build it with official
b
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 2:58 PM, Han Sapta wrote:
>
> Coming from FreeBSD, with all due respect to the FreeBSD
> brilliant people, I feel like we are still infants.
>
> I am deeply grateful to OI, OmniOS and SmartOS developers for
> keeping ilumos alive and thriv
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On Tuesday, March 2, 2021 3:35 PM, Toomas Soome via openindiana-discuss
wrote:
>
> Yes, the code of format command is mess (I have been in it more than I would
> like to;), also we would need better tooling to handle disk partitioning,
> allowing easy scripting
> On 2. Mar 2021, at 02:45, Reginald Beardsley wrote:
>
>
> It is with deep regret that I say this.
>
> I shall not be working on Illumos/OI. Below is the terminal output using the
> Hipster 2020.10 GUI install disk. I've always been amused by the enthusiasm
> for threads. I bought John La
cretin1997 via openindiana-discuss wrote on 02/03/2021 04:43:
Don't admire something too easily only because you read the hype from other
people. Don't ride the hype. It's all advertisements anyway! Most of the hypes
about the superiority of Solaris over Linux are outdated. Modern Linux beats
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