Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-14 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
Hi Dusan, > Fabien wrote that all revenue for OpenERP is from 30% of partners , but > what is more important is that IMHO 99 % of revenue comes from just few > countries. Like most companies, we follow the pareto principle in our revenues. But, as an opposite to most services companies, the long

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-13 Thread Laznik Dušan
Hi, I'm CEO of Mentis d.o.o , which is OpenERP partner for two years now. We are the only partner in Slovenia and according to Fabien definition , we are one of those 'bad' partners. Fabien wrote that all revenue for OpenERP is from 30% of partners , but what is more important is that IMHO 99 %

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-05 Thread Raphael Valyi
Hello Marcello, On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Marcelo Bello wrote: > Raphael, I sent that email to add a perspective of one end-user, I think > this kind of discussion is improved if some end-users can jump in and tell > how they see the situation. > Sure. Now end users better work with speci

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-04 Thread Raphael Valyi
On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Raphael Valyi wrote: > Hello Marcello, > > [...] > > >> 7. Find incentives for partners to share more with each other. >> > > There we are! > This is a bit the "god father" Nhomar was talking about in a previous > mail. I can already hear the sound track in my mi

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-04 Thread Nhomar Hernández
2014-03-04 22:43 GMT-06:00 Raphael Valyi : > This is a bit the "god father" Nhomar was talking about in a previous > mail. I can already hear the sound track in my mind, not sure that will end > all right ;-) > Jeejeje I *really* don't understand dude, may be because "I make offers the customer c

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-04 Thread Nhomar Hernández
2014-02-28 13:20 GMT-06:00 Yury Tello : > Hi Fabien, sorry for late reply, i was out of my office on last days, but > i hope this reply helps to you and OpenERP SA to make better business > relations with partners, customers and community. > > First, we (Cubic ERP S.A.C.) only sell hours, we don't

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-04 Thread Marcelo Bello
Since this is being discussed in the community list I feel encouraged to participate as an end-user. Some context about me: In February 2013 I entered into a contract with an OpenERP partner in Brazil called Proge to implement OpenERP for my company. Long story short, Proge took most of the mo

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-03 Thread Thorsten Vocks
Hello, i have some questions about the contract itself. I think some essential informations are unclear. A simplified but still transparent contract document would be a good move in the right direction, but still essential things are missing in the contract document, or confusing. - Where to

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-02 Thread António Sequeira
100% on target Regards Antonio Sequeira Mensagem original De : Daniel Reis Data:01/03/2014 22:49 (GMT+00:00) Para: "openerp-community@lists.launchpa" Assunto: Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value... Let me start saying that

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-01 Thread Robin Bahadur
Hello Daniel, Good thought. +1 On 2 Mar 2014 04:19, "Daniel Reis" wrote: > Let me start saying that I'm a huge OpenERP fan. > I though twice before participating, but I feel some obligation in sharing > my findings on this issue. > > OpenERP is doing a great work on the product, and all pr

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-01 Thread Daniel Reis
Let me start saying that I'm a huge OpenERP fan. I though twice before participating, but I feel some obligation in sharing my findings on this issue. OpenERP is doing a great work on the product, and all product serious users should giving their share for this. But, unfortunately, right now I

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-01 Thread Raphael Valyi
On Sat, Mar 1, 2014 at 12:23 PM, Yury Tello wrote: > Hi Jeff, Usually in LATAM there are between 2 and 3 trainees in the > official trainings, and these 30% cover International traveling. > > Best Regards > Hello Yury, we had kind of the same issues with the CTP training in Brazil (relatively

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-03-01 Thread Yury Tello
penerp-china.org > > > > -- Original -- > *From: * "Yury Tello";; > *Date: * Sat, Mar 1, 2014 03:20 AM > *To: * "Fabien Pinckaers"; " > openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net"< > openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net>; >

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-28 Thread jeff.wang
en Pinckaers"; Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value... Hi Ray, i suggest only "RESELLER" because in theother services "Design, Development, Implementation,Integrator, Hosting, Training, Support, Migration, etc" youare in conflict with

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-28 Thread jeff.wang
nity http://www.openerp-china.org -- Original -- From: "Yury Tello";; Date: Sat, Mar 1, 2014 03:20 AM To: "Fabien Pinckaers"; "openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net"; Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise c

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-28 Thread Yury Tello
-bounces+rcarnes= > ursainfosystems@lists.launchpad.net] *On Behalf Of *Yury Tello > *Sent:* Friday, February 28, 2014 3:55 PM > *To:* Fabien Pinckaers > *Cc:* openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net > > *Subject:* Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract > val

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-28 Thread Eric Caudal
Tello Sent: Friday, February 28, 2014 3:55 PM To: Fabien Pinckaers Cc: openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net Subject: Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...   Hi Fabien, nice the new OEE

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-28 Thread Ray Carnes - Implementation Strategy
community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value... Hi Fabien, nice the new OEE. Next some comments: - About the One2many Services, may be generate conflicts with the current services offered by some partners like to bug fixing, trainings, and consulting services. - The open core strategy

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-28 Thread Yury Tello
Hi Fabien, nice the new OEE. Next some comments: - About the One2many Services, may be generate conflicts with the current services offered by some partners like to bug fixing, trainings, and consulting services. - The open core strategy is good to close part of the source code and get more reven

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-28 Thread Yury Tello
Hi Fabien, sorry for late reply, i was out of my office on last days, but i hope this reply helps to you and OpenERP SA to make better business relations with partners, customers and community. First, we (Cubic ERP S.A.C.) only sell hours, we don't sell software because it is free, then we sell ho

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-26 Thread Houssine BAKKALI
n other markets the price is seen as having > different value) > > > > Ray. > > > > *From:* Openerp-community [mailto:openerp-community-bounces+rcarnes= > ursainfosystems@lists.launchpad.net] *On Behalf Of *Nhomar Hernández > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-25 Thread Ray Carnes - Implementation Strategy
ice is seen as having different value) Ray. *From:* Openerp-community [mailto:openerp-community-bounces+rcarnes= ursainfosystems@lists.launchpad.net] *On Behalf Of *Nhomar Hernández *Sent:* Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:52 AM *To:* Fabien Pinckaers *Cc:* OpenERP Community *Subject:* Re:

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-25 Thread Oscar Alca
After reading Fabien's answer, I can only say, I trust OpenERP SA, if a OpenSource company knows its numbers as OpenERP does, It means total succes. On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Nhomar Hernández wrote: > > 2014-02-25 12:43 GMT-06:00 Fabien Pinckaers : > > Things that could work but I would

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-25 Thread Nhomar Hernández
2014-02-25 12:43 GMT-06:00 Fabien Pinckaers : > Things that could work but I would like to avoid: > - don't release bugfixes publicly (only for customers) > - don't release new developments (an open core strategy), e.g. we > invest to clean accounting and we charge for these modules in v8. >

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-25 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
> As a summary; OpenERP Enterprise is a great success for us but we can do > much better as we still have 30% of partners that are not ok with it. I forgot to say that this is a normal situation. Redhat does 90% of their revenues on only 10% of their partners. So, I don't complain about this sit

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-25 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
OpenERP Enterprise Eric and All, Thanks for providing such a feedback. I read all mails and I will try to answer everyone's question here. *Why is OpenERP Enterprise Key for OpenERP?* As an introduction, OpenERP Enterprise is key for OpenERP as it finances all our R&D and marketing investment.

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-24 Thread Ferdinand Gassauer
On 2014-02-24 14:50, Dominique Chabord wrote: * For big companies it is out of question to migrate every 6,12,18 month The old system we have developed was enhanced in functionality, but no "migration" was necessary for +25 YEARS!!! We just changed the hardware, the underlying database

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-24 Thread Dominique Chabord
Hello J-A Le 24/02/2014 11:14, J-A Eberhard / Open Net Sàrl a écrit : > The price should adjust to the customer perceived value. > A customer willing to migrate might be ready to pay 50% more. > A customer that has already migrated, will be please to pay 50% less, and > keep the warranty going.

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-24 Thread Moritz Berrenberg
ie >> 1030 Bussigny >> T: +41 (21) 701 42 45 >> Autoroute A1, Sortie "Crissier / Bussigny" >> Bus TL 17, arrêt Croix-de-Plan >> >> >> - Mail original - >> > De: "Fabien Pinckaers" >> > À: openerp-community@li

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-24 Thread Denis Karataev
---- > > De: "Fabien Pinckaers" > > À: openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net > > Envoyé: Lundi 24 Février 2014 10:43:35 > > Objet: Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value... > > > > > Dear Erick, from my point of view, OpenERP SA need

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-24 Thread J-A Eberhard / Open Net Sàrl
gny" Bus TL 17, arrêt Croix-de-Plan - Mail original - > De: "Fabien Pinckaers" > À: openerp-community@lists.launchpad.net > Envoyé: Lundi 24 Février 2014 10:43:35 > Objet: Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value... > > > Dear E

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-24 Thread Fabien Pinckaers
> Dear Erick, from my point of view, OpenERP SA need change the way of > make business, to let to their partners earn money too. This is very > difficult because the head of OpenERP SA prove to be autocratic. An > example of this show on http://v6.openerp.com/node/1311 slide 9 , that > says: about

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-23 Thread Yury Tello
Dear Erick, from my point of view, OpenERP SA need change the way of make business, to let to their partners earn money too. This is very difficult because the head of OpenERP SA prove to be autocratic. An example of this show on http://v6.openerp.com/node/1311 slide 9 , that says: about the OEE pa

Re: [Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-22 Thread Carlos Vásquez
Hi Eric, I was talking Thursday to my account manager just about this. Not with the purpose of complaining about it, but because we are worried. I know this has been a delicate subject in the relationship of OpenERP with its partners (at least some of them). And I really appreciate your approach.

[Openerp-community] About OpenERP Enterprise contract value...

2014-02-21 Thread Eric Caudal
Title: Eric CAUDAL Hi OpenERP Partners, There has been some questioning about the OpenERP Enterprise Contract after some of Fabien's email and there is a real debate/questioning about the value that this contract brings to the final customer. Current value is dif