Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
lto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:45 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials I would like to suggest we drop the client assertion credentials (-11 section 3.2) from the specification, and if neede

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
vity...]ZT4%3D& client_assertion_type= urn%3Aoasis%3Anames%sAtc%3ASAML%3A2.0%3Aassertion&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fclient%2Eexample%2Ecom%2Fcb From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:45 PM To: OAuth W

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-28 Thread Phil Hunt
value MUST be an absolute URI. > client_assertion - REQUIRED. The client assertion. > For example, the client sends the following access token request using a SAML > 2.0 assertion to authenticate itself (line breaks are for display purposes > only): > > > > POST /token H

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-28 Thread Anthony Nadalin
n Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:45 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials I would like to suggest we drop the client assertion credentials (-11 section 3.2) from the specification, and if needed, publish it as a separate specifi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-26 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
n...@ietf.org> [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org]<mailto:[mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org]> On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:45 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials I would like to suggest we drop the client assertion creden

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-26 Thread Anthony Nadalin
drop it is just poor practice. From: Eran Hammer-Lahav [mailto:e...@hueniverse.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 6:11 PM To: Anthony Nadalin Cc: OAuth WG Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials Scope was discussed in detail, including use cases and implementation

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-26 Thread Anthony Nadalin
n...@ietf.org]> On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:45 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials I would like to suggest we drop the client assertion credentials (-11 section 3.2) from the specification, and if needed, publish it as a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
...@microsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2011 5:32 PM To: David Recordon; hannes.tschofe...@gmx.net; Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG; Blaine Cook Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials Based on your logic then Scope, Client Password Authentication, etc, should be removed. Not

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-25 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:45 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials I would like to suggest we drop the client assertion credentials (-11 section 3.2) from the specificatio

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-25 Thread Anthony Nadalin
Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG; Blaine Cook Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials Explicitly saying, "The assertion format, the process by which the assertion is obtained, and the method of validating the assertion are defined by the assertion issuer and the authorization s

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-25 Thread David Recordon
tted for brevity...]ZT4%3D& > > client_assertion_type= > urn%3Aoasis%3Anames%sAtc%3ASAML%3A2.0%3Aassertion&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fclient%2Eexample%2Ecom%2Fcb > > > > > > > > > > *From:* oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-25 Thread Anthony Nadalin
F%2Fclient%2Eexample%2Ecom%2Fcb From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 10:45 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials I would like to suggest we drop the client assertion cred

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-18 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi Eran, Hi all, I would like to start a working group last call on the base specification soon and the writeup in Section 3.2 about the Client Assertion Credentials is, unfortunately, not ready yet. Particularly the missing security discussion scares me. Hence, I would encourage someone to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-18 Thread Phillip Hunt
Not sure I agree. Yes shared secret But one may be long lived (permanent) while the other may be good for minutes. If a server has both what then? I suppose we could detect type in client_secret or do it by policy associated with a client_id. Is that what is intended in the spec? As you say "

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-17 Thread Francisco Corella
Phil, > What if strong authentication of client (between client and > AM) happened OOB? Instead of passing a client_assertion, why > not pass a client_token? In a sense we would be repeating > the pattern for users and applying it to clients.  A client > use its own client_token to obtain access t

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-17 Thread Phil Hunt
ll specification elsewhere. > > EHL > > From: Francisco Corella [mailto:fcore...@pomcor.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 11:31 PM > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; David Recordon > Cc: OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials > > I w

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-17 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
ready taken care of. Francisco --- On Sun, 1/16/11, David Recordon mailto:record...@gmail.com>> wrote: From: David Recordon mailto:record...@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials To: "Eran Hammer-Lahav" mailto:e...@hueniverse.com>> Cc:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-16 Thread Francisco Corella
o --- On Sun, 1/16/11, David Recordon wrote: From: David Recordon Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials To: "Eran Hammer-Lahav" Cc: "OAuth WG" Date: Sunday, January 16, 2011, 8:36 PM Seems good enough to me. +1 to removing it so that it will become

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-16 Thread David Recordon
*From:* Phillip Hunt [mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:52 AM > *To:* Eran Hammer-Lahav > *Cc:* OAuth WG > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials > > > > A strong client credential is needed in many cases. I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-15 Thread Phillip Hunt
xtension mechanism for new parameters. Why is that not enough? > > > > EHL > > > > From: Phillip Hunt [mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:52 AM > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav > Cc: OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Clien

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
. Why is that not enough? EHL From: Phillip Hunt [mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com] Sent: Saturday, January 15, 2011 12:52 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials A strong client credential is needed in many cases. I had assumed client assertion

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-15 Thread Phillip Hunt
A strong client credential is needed in many cases. I had assumed client assertion would fulfill this need. Phil Sent from my phone. On 2011-01-14, at 22:45, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > I would like to suggest we drop the client assertion credentials (-11 section > 3.2) from the specificati

[OAUTH-WG] Removal: Client Assertion Credentials

2011-01-14 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
I would like to suggest we drop the client assertion credentials (-11 section 3.2) from the specification, and if needed, publish it as a separate specification for the following reasons: 1. The mechanism is under specified, especially in its handling of the client_id identifier (when us