/developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Attributes/required
Cheers. And thanks again to the faithful dedicatees on the Netsurf crew
for all their work over many years!
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Netsurf team! Only yesterday I was frustrated
when somebody shared me a photo that arrived in Google's newfangled WebP
format.
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o has now disappeared, though I'm not clear how they were
connected.
Thanks, Vincent.
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try this and let me know if you can reproduce it
> - if so, I will report it.
I was using #4887 earlier today and found that none of the controls for a
text area would work (Ctrl-A, Ctrl-C, Ctrl-X etc).
Went back to my previous version, #4881, and all is well.
the item will have to be cleared from my local cache. Is there a
straightforward way of doing this that I don't know about? Iconbar
"Choices > Cache" does not offer one.
Seems to me the "Reload this page" option ain't strong enuf.
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from the site
named in the URL bar of the page. If Netsurf, could I suggest that your
design say so? (Maybe just add a Netsurf logo.)
Anyway, it *is* more informative!
Cheers.
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Tim Hill wrote on 22 Oct:
>> [Jim:] Could the error message be made more informative than just the one
>> word "Unknown" ?
> NS 3.9 correctly says "timeout was reached".
I'm using 3.10 Dev CI #4874, which says only "Unknown".
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done: Unknown
>> cURL response code 28
> This code is CURLE_OPERATION_TIMEDOUT
Could the error message be made more informative than just the one word
"Unknown" ?
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lsemi.com/datasheets/appindex.html
I would like to know what this means! I don't recall getting this message
in previous versions of Netsurf. But maybe it's just a bad day today.
Using ArmX6 with Ro 5.25 (Rcomp 2018-apr-25).
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ystroke Selection file & share it.
Or a "switch" that could be added to an URL file to set Javascript off,
when relevant to that particular URL, as in this case.
And thanks for looking into the problem, Daniel.
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keeps running.
With or without Javascript enabled.
Was using Netsurf #4845 when this phenomenon began. Downloaded #4850 just
now, but still no joy.
https://duckduckgo.com/html/search continues to work with no prob.
So what is Google playing at?
Is a fix likely for Netsurf?
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ks fine
on A5 Android tablet too.
The problem of sensibly adapting the layout for a small screen on a
smartphone has so far eluded me, hence my interest in Media Queries.
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f
ignores it:
font: serif italic bold 24pt;
Or am I failing to understand the spec?
Using #4682 and many previous builds.
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iled, to use !Keystroke to set up such a key.
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behaviour began more than a year ago and unforch I can't say exactly
which #.
Anyone see the same?
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ponsible is replaced as part of the road to Javascript. I'm
> guessing the layout engine, but I could easily be wrong on that -- as
> Chris says, it has been many years.
Fingers crossed for a cure in the forthcoming release!
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. Each of the menu items has a straightforward URL to
the relevant page within the site. So I simply saved my tweaked
version as a new local page called "menu-redux/html", and now I can
click in that page to be taken to where I want within the site.)
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X6 with Ro5.25)
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.
How do we make it forget so that we can try again to see what happens
with bogus credentials?
(Of course no problem if I had more carefully read Michael's
instruction that said to try with incorrect credentials *first*.)
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browsers coped, giving a
reduced dialogue box. (That site, for a wedding now past, now gives
only an "under construction" page, but other examples might exist at
www.squarespace.com where it was hosted.)
Dunno if Netsurf's revised code would now cope with this unusu
Trying to learn stuff from http://php.net is so painful on Netsurf
because any page from the site takes ages to load and a further age to
scroll. (Using #4342)
I'm curious about the mechanisms involved. Any wisdom, please?
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link without extra steps, so why must Netsurf
require fifflefaffle for PDF?
(Similar Q for MPro (and Pluto?) email with Jpeg vs PDF attachments.)
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involved?
And why does the PDF link cause BOTH the download dialogue AND a blank
web page to appear?
I'm using RiscOS 5.23 and at the moment Netsurf #4342.
(I presume things would differ for, say, Amiga instead of RiscOS.)
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to
drag the width to see it happen (presuming of course that it's not a
fixed-width page). Try a news page from http://theregister.co.uk as
an example.
Anybody concur with me?
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n wished for a button that would switch Javascript on or off and
indicate the status (just a shortcut for iconbar choices > Content).
(Meanwhile my Netsurf "welcome" page does include Tim's welcome
workaround from 2016nov, to indicate Javascript on/off status.)
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sed -- to begin with, rather than
requiring a workaround. I have no idea, though, how much developer
effort that would entail.
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t.
(PS: If this works for you, howbout writing it up as a hint&tip for
Archive?)
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Rob Kendrick wrote on 19 Feb:
> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 03:46:41PM +0000, Jim Nagel wrote:
>> - Netsurf displays the pages served up via Webjames perfectly,
>> except that it is NOT obeying the stylesheet (which is /2018.css )
>> even though the Webjames log records a GE
Tim Hill wrote on 19 Feb:
> Even Wikipedia gets this right.
If it didn't, then of course it would now, because you surely have
signed up for an account as one of the crowd-sourced and peer-reviewed
editors and you would have contributed the required correction.
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Michael Drake wrote on 19 Feb:
> On 19/02/18 15:46, Jim Nagel wrote:
>> - NetSurf displays the pages served up via WebJames perfectly,
>> except that it is NOT obeying the stylesheet
> I guess WebJames is not serving the CSS file with the "text/css" MIME
> t
lick !!hey-Webjames in that site's root directory.
In Netsurf's URL bar type just "localhost" and Webjames serves it.
(Webjames doesn't seem to mind the apparently repeated filer_run line
when it has already been running for a previous site.)
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Richard Porter wrote on 19 Feb:
> ... I don't think your ISP's software comes into it unless your ISP is
> also your hosting company.
Sorry: I used the wrong term. I did mean the hosting company.
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|| See
id for the logo and paper and favicon.
- Yet when Netsurf fetches the identical page from my ISP's server,
it DOES obey the CSS.
Same problem for pages farther out the directory tree. All pages now
specify /2018.css in handy "absolute" shortform.
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ore.
http://glastonburyconservation.org.uk if anybody wants to have a look.
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ent information, not waste time on stuff from 2001. But
sometimes historical stuff is indeed what is sought.
So state date. I've long wondered what the mechanism is.
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in-content;
width: -moz-min-content;
width: min-content;
}
That seems to mean Mozilla and Webkit. Is there perhaps an equivalent
for Netsurf?
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e.g. Firefox or Android.)
A promising idea in (1) is width:min-content -- a value for width
used in the reply at https://stackoverflow.com/a/28341085/496046
that is apparently new, according to documentation at
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/width#min-content --
does Netsur
HTML form. (I am
adapting a page where a grey panel further up is actually a menu
though it shows only the default option -- the appearance of the
current Submit button close by is too similar.)
Thanks.
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Jim Nagel wrote on 5 Feb:
> ... Until a week or two ago (last time I needed it) the BT Phonebook
> worked fine in Netsurf. The new design is in the
> big-boxes-on-mostly-blank-page style that seems the current fashion
> (e.g. the gov.uk pages). ...
Hmmm, I thought the new design w
-mostly-blank-page style that seems the current fashion
(e.g. the gov.uk pages).
Does anybody know a current phonebook site that DOES work with
Netsurf?
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;
> <5697c374a7li...@torrens.org>
> <5697cbebe8li...@torrens.org>
> <5697d25908...@timil.com>
> <5697c81778...@timil.com>
> <5697fb898ccvj...@waitrose.com>
The last one on your list (Chris Newman, "Pane srolling") is the only
one that I see.
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host.
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gs to this list since Nov07 20:56, or has
some new blockage come into being?
I shall now see whether I receive my own post.
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Tim Hill wrote on 6 Nov:
> (bcc to JN)
> In article , Jim Nagel
> wrote:
[snip]
>> https://listmaster.pepperfish.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/netsurf-use
>> rs-netsurf-browser.org
>> I went to the Netsurf-users Info Page [via link quoted above] and
>> subscr
there be any connection with my not receiving messages from
the list though I am able to post -- or is it again just me?
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m the list,
because those two odd ones DID arrive after Oct26.
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Sorry, just a test.
Oct26 was the last message I received from this list.
People elsewhere reported they received postings after that.
Today I received two.
Will this one now come through to me?
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t displays without problem.
Seems strange if the RiscOS authentication routine has never come
across this situation before. Netsurf #4204.
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t displays without problem.
Seems strange if the RiscOS authentication routine has never come
across this situation before. Netsurf #4204.
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e
screenshot. You must have got a dropdown from the "About us" button
(or somewhere) that I don't get here.
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Richard Torrens (lists) wrote on 25 Oct:
> I suspect the developers don't need more examples of pages that don't
> lay out properly? But in case they do, try http://watervoles.com
Home page and some others look OK here (Netsurf #4204), but some of
the menu dropdowns require Java
>> On 27 May, Jim Nagel wrote:
>>> ... the info line at bottom left of main [Netsurf] window stays blank.
>>> In the past, it usefully showed the target URL when the pointer was
>>> over a link in the main window. ...
>>> * #4085 and #4088 -- here on A
process?
Anybody else noticed the same thing, or is it just me?
* #4085 and #4088 -- here on Armini Ro 5.22 and ArmX6 5.23.
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cj wrote on 5 May:
> It happens here as Jim described ..., with ROS 5.23 (19 Jan 17).
Mine is 5.23 (2016-June-29). (I should get round to the upgrade!)
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),
Netsurf did not take the input focus till I explicitly clicked in its
window. Throughout this period, my email software has had no update.)
Using Ro 5.23 on ArmX6, Ro 5.22 on Armini (Beagle).
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Tim Hill wrote on 7 Apr:
> In article <30d0062956@abbeypress.net>,
> Jim Nagel wrote:
>> Or maybe a new trick such as Shift-Adjust-click could open the new
>> window *behind* the one I click in. (Perhaps this is comparable to
>> the likes of Firefox, w
e whether opening a new
tab puts you immediately into the new tab or lets you remain in the
present one, in my case the list of search results.)
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nter, Brian. Will mention Know Your Place in
the local conservation newsletter I do.
** If you see this line in your reply, you need to SNIP **
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my Raspberry Pi.
> ...
Here, it looks as you describe it should. ArmX6 with Ro 5.23 and
Netsurf #3955.
(Might pinch some of your design ideas!)
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nce to save them manually, at least).
I can't be the only Netsurf user who has ever lost stuff like this
because of the machine losing power or freezing, and Netsurf not
having the chance to quit correctly.
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Harriet Bazley wrote on 23 Nov:
> On 23 Nov 2016 as I do recall,
> Jim Nagel wrote:
>> Does Netsurf not save its hotlist and history till the user quits the
>> program?
>>
> No, it doesn't.
> An attempt to avoid constant unpredictable disc accesses,
where like Shoreditch or
Marylebone.
Stop press: Found it! It's html.com
Back to original Q about when Netsurf saves its hotlist.
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RiscOS so knows the scene) is helping on this. We're not aiming to do
anything elaborate, but elegance yes please.
There's probably a narticle for Archive magazine in all this!
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Netsurf is gobbling
all of the 16M
> - what sites are you visiting when this happens
Just some Spamcop report-response pages
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verall, and Netsurf behaves like it does at home on ArmX6.
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r
need to find a way to make Windows give more memory to VRPC. Haven't
yet found a way to do either; advice welcome, please.
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my cross-Canada cellfone 519 589 3732
ise) the page loads and displays quite quickly with Javascript
off, a bit slower (I think) with Javascript on. Netsurf #3538.
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even though
they lead to the identical target in the website itself. OK, no harm
in that, just an observation.
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Jeremy Nicoll - ml netsurf wrote on May 13:
> On 2016-05-12 12:27, Jim Nagel wrote:
>> Cookies: none involved -- it's my own site I'm talking about, and it
>> doesn't make any cookies.
> As you replied below (to an email that doesn't seem to have appeared
ut seeing a login
box.
Then downloaded the log file which the PHP generates on the server and
checked it. These login tests do NOT appear on the log.
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alogue does not
mention clearing it.
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Maybe it's more like changing the "state".)
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slight tweak that they could make so
that at least their first-level buttons would work.
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Jim Nagel wrote on 28 Apr:
> Can anybody point me to a free online telephone directory that works
> on Netsurf?
None?
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Jim Nagel wrote on 13 Apr:
> I recently updated the home page of my own website. Then tested
> viewing it with Netsurf. It kept serving up the old page, despite my
> clicking Netsurf's Reload button -- with Select (to reload page), then
> again with Adjust (to "reload pa
r and pay, or they don't work in Netsurf.
I could have a go at making suggestions via the BT press office, if
anybody could clue me in on what the tech problem is. It might well
be something fairly simple in their Javascript.
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from a cache.
Interactive help for the item on the Netsurf buttonbar does say
"Reload". Does it do the same thing as Ctrl-F5 or not?
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load page" is Ctrl-F5 -- I didn't try that unfamiliar
keystroke, but presume it does same as above. Is Ctrl-R used at all?)
I finally deleted the history file; then my revised page displayed.
Shouldn't reload trump history?
Using Netsurf #3433 at the moment.
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!Locate used to
spend ages hunting through them. Now I can simply abort the search
before it gets to the end.
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made a new directory that comes alphabetically last: $._
!Cache and !Scrap and !Newsdir now live there, with appropriate
pointers in the old places. Works well.
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Abbey Press 32 Norbins Rd(01458) 83 3603
Glastonbury B
x27;m guessing they use the same software to generate
them.
Michael Drake, of the Netsurf team, replied this morning in the
bugtracker thread, rather cryptically:
This is: LibCSS needs to gain support for Media Queries.
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ch as Firefox show what the designer intended.
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Atari, etc? Does multi-core ability
exist in hardware there?
Do the Netsurf developers have ideas for how Netsurf could take
advantage of the extra processing power when the OSes allow it?
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suits will be so cooperative, they will be the
last bank standing in this town and could mop up all the customers the
other three banks have deserted.)
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Glastonbury
n
at this very moment. Natwest closed a year ago, HSBC a few months
ago. That leaves Lloyds. And Lloyds closes later this month.)
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Glastonbury
out when I tried to look at the Codethink site,
but when I immediately tried again it displayed immediately.
Curious why that should be.
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page.
Many thanks to Dean Murphy from ANT Ltd. Cambridge from
whom I recieved this information.
=
Perhaps this facility exists already in Netsurf and I just don't know
about it.
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)
Yes. I have always missed these two features in Netsurf, especially
Fresco's control button that toggled ECMAscript (Javascript) on or off
(and showed its current state).
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rinter. Before next issue I'll ask him to put through a test
sheet with samples of the whole range of tints.
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sion of Lua is too old? !BOOT.Resources.!Lua.version says
5.70 (2013-08-16).
Potentially sounds like a very welcome utility.
Have often wished for a similar thing to override bothersome CSS,
particularly CSS that specifies tiny grey text (which seems to be a
current fashion a
> On 2015-Sep-29 Jim Nagel wrote:
> [snip]
>> I'm on #2935 (Aug 25) and have been suffering a great many sites that
>> time out with no display at all. Sometimes hourglassing goes on
>> forever and there's nothing for it but Alt-Break to kill Netsurf.
>&g
retty sure that in the
past, the Choices file contained a line enable_javascript:1 (or 0).
If I'm right, when did this change take place? What's the reasoning?
It would sure be handy to have a keyboard shortcut to switch
Javascript on and off!
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cases will succeed if I relaunch Netsurf, switch off
Javascript from its iconbar menu, and only then reload the site.
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> ending up in an inconsistent state. This could be extended to restart
> Pluto once the job has completed.a
> However, I am not sure whether such a facility would be of general
> interest.
Err, umm, sorry to sound as if my initials are D R, but I'm lost:
is this anything to do with the subject line?
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2; same behaviour
now in Netsurf #2935 on Iyonix 5.18.
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synology-diskstation-ds412-plus/
As I say, I'm curious about the mechanism. If it's Javascript, I
appreciate the vastness of the programming job.
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Steve Fryatt wrote on 12 Aug:
> On 12 Aug, cj wrote in message
> <54f1f9a962ch...@chris-johnson.org.uk>:
>> In article ,
>>Jim Nagel wrote:
>>
>>>Warning from Netsurf
>>>The file could not be saved due to an error:
>>>
plog) need the tweak?
*help wimplog says: "The Wimplog module logs errors sent to
Wimp_ReportError (ie, shown as error boxes on the screen) to a file
using !Syslog."
(I'm using Netsurf #2789 on Iyonix 5.18, Syslog 0.20, Wimplog 1.02)
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;m."
prefix to URL, in this case http://m.libero.it
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l/search
Copy of said page and instrux are here if anybody wants to try it:
www.archivemag.co.uk/JN/duck
If you do, let me know so I can claim the T-shirt!
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