Fail2Ban on a couple of dozen servers may not be sufficient to address 400 gigs
of traffic.
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- Original Message -
From: "Terrance Devor"
To: "Mik
It seems like Cloudflare can do something now too because VoIP.MS is now routed
through Cloudflare for their new servers.
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- Original Message -
From: "Ray O
time, especially when half of the messages send to the list are outside of
the intent of the list.
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- Original Message -
From: "Andy Ringsmuth"
To: "NANOG"
Sen
Can't wait to see the RFO!
-Mike
On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 2:35 PM Bill Woodcock wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:21 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 4, 2021, at 11:10 PM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
> >>
> >> They
Getting the odd message through, but DNS looks good via their Toronto,
Canada pop
% traceroute -q1 -I a.dns.facebook.com
traceroute to star.c10r.facebook.com (31.13.80.8), 64 hops max, 48 byte
packets
1 torix-core1-10G (67.43.129.248) 0.140 ms
2 facebook-a.ip4.torontointernetxchange.net (206
Great news!
On Fri, Oct 15, 2021 at 7:42 AM Mark Tinka wrote:
> FYI.
>
> Step by step, the tyrants shall be stripped.
>
> Mark.
>
> Forwarded Message
> Subject: [members-discuss] Update on legal case - Freeze of Bank accounts
> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2021 14:53:03 +0400
> From: Eddy
to keep up with non-existent
(at the time) demand.
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Thomas"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Sunday, October 10, 2021 3:13:50 PM
" to give priority"
Assuming priority is given.
It's going to be very rare for their to be both only one ISP and no other ISPs
able to be motivated to be present.
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http://www
n my fake client. Am I in the right ballpark?
Next, is there a better way of doing this? I saw the curl plugin, but it was
only after I had seen EchoPingHttps, so maybe curl is "better."
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Noted. I transitioned over to the curl plugin and sites that didn't work now
do. Some sites had a lower time, while some had a higher.
The value of the time isn't so important to me as what it does over time.
Thanks.
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Mike Hammett
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Anyone have a GeoLocation contact for HBO? Appears they don’t allow external
emails to ctiaengine...@hbo.com
Thanks in advance.
-Mike
appreciated, by myself (and some of your employees).
Thank You,
Mike
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Care to explain because the alternative seems pretty self-evident.
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- Original Message -
From: "Jose Luis Rodriguez"
To: "Jean St-Laurent"
I can't imagine, as a percentage, a significant amount of voting ARIN members
give a crap about what happens with legacy resources.
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https://www.mailop.org/
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- Original Message -
From: "Payam Poursaied"
To: "NANOG"
Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2021 9:53:18 PM
Subject: Loo
https://www.mailop.org/
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- Original Message -
From: "Tom Daly"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, December 10, 2021 7:42:50 AM
Subject: Assistance with
"Security" people often let perfect be the enemy of good. Sometimes it's okay.
Sometimes not.
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- Original Message -
From: "Karl Auer"
Hi all,
Does anyone have a cloudflare abuse contact? The email address in the
whois doesn't actually go to their abuse team, and their abuse form
doesn't address the issue we're seeing (a massive DNS flood).
Thank you much!
- Mike
--
09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0
#x27;t do
https://bogus.site).
What I'm seeing is a ton of abusive DNS traffic that's causing some
issues, and there's no abuse form that works for this scenario.
- Mike
On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 10:33 AM Nick Poulakos wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> cloudflare has a web form to r
" Top Gear Top Tip: I also have a UPS on my garage door opener. That saves the
misses from dealing with manually opening/closing the garage door if I'm not
at home."
Keeping one's spouse happy is FAR more important than keeping a router or modem
online. ;-)
Armchair quarterbacking here:
Increasing
---
Demand
Age of infrastructure
Capital Costs
Operational Costs
Government mismanagement
Decreasing
---
Tolerance for outages
Tolerance for price increases
Competence
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I do think the data in OpenStreetMap is undervalued. Lots of stuff there and
there are a few projects that exist to better visualize that data.
https://www.openrailwaymap.org/ is another using Open Street Map data.
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ne if it's a wave or MPLS.
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- Original Message -
From: "PAUL R BARFORD"
To: "Lukas Tribus"
Cc: "Esteban Carisimo" , nanog@nanog.org
Fearmongering.
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Thomas"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 2:29:53 PM
Subject: What do you think
What I've seen so far from the airline industry is a joke.
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- Original Message -
From: "Mel Beckman"
To: sro...@ronan-online.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
I do want to point out that it isn't a mindless name change like Xfinity,
Spectrum, or Lumen. It's because the company actually split off from Telia
proper and thus, needed a new name.
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Why is it even necessary for such a function?
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- Original Message -
From: "Laura Smith via NANOG"
To: "nanog@nanog.org list"
Sent: Wednesday, J
Like most other things cloud, the value is going to be much harder to find than
the hype.
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Thomas"
To: nanog@nanog
Cloud-hosted infrastructure just doesn't work reliably. Too many points of
failure along the way.
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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Tinka"
To: &qu
There's a big difference between a website (admittedly a complex one) and a
mobile core.
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Thomas"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Th
I also think the complexities, requirements, tolerances, etc. of an EPC are
also being understated in the thread. The difference being is that I am aware
(and stated as such) that I'm understating Netflix's usage. The other side
doesn't know how particular EPCs can be.
IIRC, *EVERYTHING* is in AWS, while their Open Connect deployments actually do
the heavy lifting for the video content.
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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Tinka"
"For a company like Amazon..."
True, but also, they're at a size where staffing and operating peering
operations generously has a negligible impact on the fiscal situation of the
company (or even department).
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I think you need a bit more definition.
ISPs as in full-route providers?
Any external BGP peer?
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- Original Message -
From: "Josh Saul"
To: nanog@nanog
Yes, pinging public DNS servers is bad.
Googling didn't help me find anything.
Are there any authoritative resources from said organizations saying you
shouldn't use their servers for your persistent ping destinations?
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I'm not looking to do the pinging myself. I have my own destinations I use. I
also use the RIPE system on occasion.
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- Original Message -
From: "Stephane Bortzmeyer&qu
etwork
testing services"
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- Original Message -
From: "Tom Beecher"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: "NANOG"
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 3:01:27 P
Right, someone could do that.
I was more here to find ammunition to show someone that they were doing
something wrong than to build anything myself.
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- Original Message -
From
other than being lazy.
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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Delany"
To: "NANOG"
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 5:13:30 PM
Subject: Re: Authoritative Resourc
Except that the very reason This Thread started was because 8. 8. 8. 8 was not
responding to pings and cause issues with many facturar hard-coded destinations.
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No doubt there would be a very long tail, but...
1) Create alternative.
2) Get Google, Cloudflare, PCH, etc. to say that per whatever new standard,
this is the new way to do this, leave my stuff alone.
3) Lots of peer pressure.
4) ???
5) Profit
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How about running ZeroTier on those Linux boxes and call it a day?
https://www.zerotier.com/
-Mike
> On Feb 10, 2022, at 10:07, David Guo via NANOG wrote:
>
>
> You may try WireGuard and use ddns
>
> From: NANOG On Behalf Of William
> Herrin
> Sent: Friday, F
because someone else built a device (without a meaningful configuration to
set otherwise), 8.8.8.8 went down for ICMP, and thus Internet ports began
flapping, despite the Internet as a whole working just fine.
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e do you want to get? What is your
action if it's up? What is your action if it's down?
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- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sen
Mikrotik with RouterOS v7 with WireGuard or ZeroTier were the first things I
thought of, but it might be a a bit premature for a production environment. In
a year, I'd have no problem recommending that.
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What's the most resource efficient way to deploy a ping destination?
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- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 8, 2
If they allow antennas on the roof, we can service them :)
Your house, on the other hand, we already lucked out on that one!
-Mike Lyon
Ridge Wireless
> On Feb 16, 2022, at 16:48, Matthew Petach wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 1:16 PM Josh Luthman
> wrote:
company.
Could also look into getting some fiber delivered and feed it from that.
-Mike
> On Feb 16, 2022, at 17:02, Cory Sell wrote:
>
> Out of pure curiosity, let’s assume they COULD put an antenna on the roof…
>
> What is the service? Bandwidth, latency expectation, cost?
&g
.
Likely going to be wired with something like Cat3 and old RG59 coax.
I’m not saying i don’t agree with the sentiment of this thread. Silicon Valley
does have many under-served areas that ATT and Comcast haven’t, or won’t,
build-out decent service.
-Mike
> On Feb 16, 2022, at 17:16, Cory S
locations to
regain administrative control for example, and while rare, these are now
a thing of the past (as long as you are using "commit confirmed").
Mike-
"A single customer who has no sway over an entire HOA"
If you can't sway the whole HOA, then the problem must not be that bad.
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- Original Message -
From: "
*nods* I agree.
Usually, it's too many spineless people that won't stand up to someone that
couldn't make friends in high school.
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- Original Message -
From: &qu
*nods* Not only cleaning up the infections, but also implementing BCP 38 and 84
to keep things you miss from leaking.
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- Original Message -
From: "Seth David Schoen"
So the providers most likely to have the skills and capabilities to automate
abuse mitigation are the least likely to do anything about it, even when asked?
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- Original Message
I think they were all that way, but I believe traffic is moving over to 14593.
https://bgp.he.net/AS14593
I've seen people post on their social media that their routing changed.
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Infrapedia seems like a logical place to aggregate such data.
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- Original Message -
From: "Hank Nussbacher"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 1:09:45 A
How is this related to NANOG?
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- Original Message -
From: "Callan Banner"
To: "nanog@nanog.org list"
Sent: Tuesday, March 8, 2022 3:22:49 PM
Subject: Fw
Always on or always off, I don't care which, just pick one and give sufficient
lead time for development.
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- Original Message -
From: "Jay R. Ashworth"
To: "
"Farmers work on that kind of schedule"
With GPS and now even RTK-assisted GPS, farmers don't care if it's noon or
midnight, though obviously working near normal human awake times makes the
search for labor easier.
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Timestamp?
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- Original Message -
From: "Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe, ASCE"
To: "NANOG Group"
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 7:37:22 AM
Su
Sounds good to me. Solve the end-user problems, since they don't have the
ability or care to do it themselves and doing so manually has too much latency
and doesn't scale.
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" They can easily profile you and know when you're at home, and when you're
gone."
And?
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- Original Message -
From: "Giovane C. M. Mou
" Most end users (at least in the US) don't have a choice as many jurisdictions
have sold a franchise (monopoly) to one provider. Either they sign or they
don't get internet."
That's not true.
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, but when it creates
support issues, one starts to look for better ways of skinning the cat.
I've found a few of them out there, but they seem to be priced as if I'm a
hosting company or an ESP, not an end-user-focused ISP.
TIA
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ronics. TE was
bought by Commscope. Commscope discontinued everything I found interesting with
no replacements.
Some of the stuff is on eBay (even NIB), some not.
Any recommendations for places to get old telco blocks, testers, mounts, etc.?
Any recommendations for alternatives that are easie
testing the customer pairs ourselves.
Distance to fault, what kind of fault, etc. Telling them that info helps
actually get things fixed more quickly.
The most we have in any CO is 400 pair.
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http:
creating
other issues.
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- Original Message -
From: "Shawn L"
To: "Dave Phelps"
Cc: "Mike Hammett" , "NANOG"
Sent: Thursday
major facility would be highly desirable, but may also
have a lot of competition, depending on the Z location. In the middle of
nowhere might be really expensive because no one else is there... or really
cheap because it's on a competitive route.
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I believe the intent is for the service provider to then look up that call by
source:destination, investigate how it came into the network, investigate if
STIR/SHAKEN signed, and deal with appropriately. If signed, then there's a
responsible party to engage.
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ss assets and let me use them to overpay them for service.
Why I'm so specifically wanting Lumen is there are very limited options on the
route I'm asking for. I'm already doing business with the others, so I'd like
some entity diversity.
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It can exceed 25 megs, but it isn't common. Certainly not common enough to
throw hundreds of billions, if not trillions of dollars at the long tail.
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- Original Me
" Bigger is better, even if you don’t need it, reigns supreme."
Hence my earlier reference to the marketing machine.
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- Original Message -
From: &quo
#x27;t use what they have
now, so why would they use more?
I'm sure it's more than a 0 difference, but it isn't statistically relevant.
That's, however, assuming you've spent the money to overbuild the
infrastructure in that area to support something not needed.
" However, this isn’t exactly new… Windows used to come on something like 31
3.5” floppies at one point."
But you can still get incremental Windows Updates and don't have to redownload
Windows any time something changes.
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It's nice to see the FCC take regulating receivers seriously, finally. It's a
two way street and we've only been looking one direction the whole time.
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unrealistic to
pre-build capacity for imaginary developments that never come.
Napster came out in 1999. Broadband use in 2000 was 1%.
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- Original Message -
From: &qu
y inadequate
upstream, but certainly not anything to change the regulatory environment over.
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- Original Message -
From: "Brandon Butterworth"
To: "M
If you want to argue that a bigger number is better, sure.
However, regulatory definitions and funding has real meaning.
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- Original Message -
From: "Casey Ru
keep up to varying
degrees."
Keep up with what? Want or need?
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- Original Message -
From: "Brandon Butterworth"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: "Micha
Would it matter if it took 10 minutes or an hour?
What's the OneDrive rate limit?
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- Original Message -
From: "Tony Wicks"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sen
Vanity is what most of this is about.
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Thomas"
To: "Tony Wicks" , nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022
Due to the demand being predominately in the downward direction, half-duplex
(or effectively half-duplex) systems either allocate more TDMA slots or more
channels to downstream, at the expense of upstream.
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Less vanity over there?
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- Original Message -
From: "Mark Tinka"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2022 7:17:47 PM
Subject: Re: Upstream bandwidth usage
It's not always something the service provider has the ability to change.
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- Original Message -
From: "Michael Thomas"
To: "Mike Hammett"
Cc: nanog@
outages.
Are rolling outages due to heat something common for ISPs to do? I've never
heard of it for any of the hundreds of ISPs I've talked to.
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I know the person that posted it and they wouldn't knowingly post something
false. That's not to say that that some trickster isn't clever.
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- Original Message -
From
Rolling power outages in the Chicago area are very uncommon. Usually it's due
to a failure of something and not a planned load shed, but even then, it's
uncommon any time there isn't physical damage from a storm.
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M
*
Not sure if hop 6 is a Bell device or Cogent device. I have a ticket
open with Cogent, but they dont see any issues in their network. I am
not a direct customer of Bell, so I cant open a ticket with them. Was
hoping someone from AS577 would see this and take a look.
---Mike
Looks to be fixed as of ~ 14:55 Eastern.
---Mike
On 6/24/2022 1:49 PM, mike tancsa wrote:
We noticed random traffic originating from AS577 stopped getting to
our ASN via Cogent in Montreal at around 00:24 this morning. Based on
the pattern I am guessing a broken next hop on one leg of a
It's DirecTV that became part of AT&T, but now they're separated again.
Dish Network is building a nation-wide terrestrial mobile network. Supposed to
be the new #4 provider.
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Maybe.
I saw multiple reports of a town this past week end that didn't respond to
multiple calls for a transformer and pole CURRENTLY on fire. I guess they had
better things to do.
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Their web site highlights it fairly proudly.
I'm aware that availability varies.
I'm aware that they likely don't want to sell it.
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Oh, and I forgot to mention that my ICA has it.
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- Original Message -
From: "Mike Hammett"
To: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 6:40:47 AM
Subject: Fro
The ICA was signed in 2003 or 2004 with dark fiber in it.
Ahh, but maybe 2021 killed it.
Well, most of the ones I'm looking at would be interoffice, not so much loops.
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- Ori
Here's the list of CLLI codes where you're no longer able to order dark fiber:
https://www.fcc.gov/clli-code-list
It seems odd as I look through there, finding COs with no competitive fiber and
yet, they're on the list.
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*nods* Two conversations:
1) What does tier 1 mean?
2) Does it matter?
1) Varies, based on if you are trying to include yourself in that list or not.
2) No.
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Well right, to some people it matters, but given enough time, they'll
experience (though probably not learn) why it doesn't.
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- Original Message -
From: &q
The problem them becomes *who* pays? When do the tables turn as to who pays?
The alpha gets paid and the beta does the paying?
The network with more POPs gets paid?
The network with more downstream ASes gets paid?
Is it the same for IPv4 as it is for IPv6?
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Mike Hammett
gt; Removing Cogent personnel and peering departments from this thread as I'm
>> sure they don't appreciate the nonsense coming from this list.
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>> Regards,
>> Peter Potvin | Executive Director
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I think the point the other Mike was trying to make was that if everyone
policed their customers, this wouldn't be a problem. Since some don't,
something else needed to be tried.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest-IX
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