The problem with the Telect-style is that ever time we need to test a given 
pair, we have to pull it off, it ends up breaking, we test, then re-wrap it 
back on, losing an inch or so each time. For problem loops, this takes a 
sizable amount of wire out of one pair in the 25-pair bundle, then creating 
other issues. 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Shawn L" <sha...@up.net> 
To: "Dave Phelps" <tippenr...@gmail.com> 
Cc: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net>, "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 5:00:23 PM 
Subject: Re: Copper Termination Blocks 


I'd still go with telect-style blocks. Wire-wrap on the front and amphenol on 
the back/bottom depending you application. Way less space than 66 or 110. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: "Dave Phelps" <tippenr...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 4:27pm 
To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> 
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog@nanog.org> 
Subject: Re: Copper Termination Blocks 




Hi Mike. I used Krone blocks back in the mid 90s. I really liked them. 
I'm afraid now your long-term options now are probably straight old 66 or 110 
blocks. 66 blocks give some added flexibility. 110s are more efficient as far 
as space consumed compared to 66 blocks. Krone and 110s have a very similar 
profile. 
Depending on how much copper you're terminating, you may want to plan the frame 
layout for cross-connect field space before building the frame. You don't want 
to end up with too much cross-connect wire volume in too small an area. That 
can get troublesome. 
Happy to discuss specifics. Just ping me off-list. 


On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 3:13 PM Mike Hammett < na...@ics-il.net > wrote: 

I know I'm discussing what some consider ancient technology. I counter that it 
meets or exceeds the needs of many, many people. 

Currently, we use 100-pr Telect-style termination blocks. They don't offer much 
in terms of ease of use for testing and don't organize well on a 19" or 23" 
rack. 

I was recommended to look at Krone blocks. They look just great. Easy to break 
into for testing with their "look both ways" plug as well as their 
preterminated blocks looked much easier to rack-mount. 

Well, Krone was bought by ADC. ADC was bought by Tyco Electronics. TE was 
bought by Commscope. Commscope discontinued everything I found interesting with 
no replacements. 


Some of the stuff is on eBay (even NIB), some not. 

Any recommendations for places to get old telco blocks, testers, mounts, etc.? 

Any recommendations for alternatives that are easier to source? 




----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 


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