It's not always something the service provider has the ability to change. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Michael Thomas" <m...@mtcc.com> 
To: "Mike Hammett" <na...@ics-il.net> 
Cc: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2022 2:38:29 PM 
Subject: Re: Upstream bandwidth usage 




On 6/10/22 6:52 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



Due to the demand being predominately in the downward direction, half-duplex 
(or effectively half-duplex) systems either allocate more TDMA slots or more 
channels to downstream, at the expense of upstream. 



Well, my dsl provider has like a 25/5 50/10 so clearly everybody has the 
headroom to get to 10 at least. Marketing, of course, but I wonder how many 
support calls they got because "my internet is slow" from saturated upstream 
with zoom calls. I mean, most users have no clue about such things. 


Mike 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Michael Thomas" <m...@mtcc.com> 
To: nanog@nanog.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2022 3:46:24 PM 
Subject: Re: Upstream bandwidth usage 


On 6/9/22 1:26 PM, Mel Beckman wrote: 
> With 430 GB versus 32 GV average down versus up usage today, according 
> to your article, this is still not a case for symmetrical consumer 
> bandwidth. Yes, the upstream usage increased slightly more than the 
> downstream usage. But the ratio was still so big that it would take 
> decades for them to join. I doubt they ever will. Consumers just don’t 
> have that much days up to push yet, and probably never will. 
> 
> Also, a lot of that Usage can be explained by video conferencing 
> during Covid, which has dropped off significantly already. 
> 
> 
If it's so tiny, why shape it aggressively? Why shouldn't I be able to 
burst to whatever is available at the moment? I would think most users 
would be happy with that. 

Mike 



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