Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-15 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, John Levine wrote: >>Almost everyone are basically just selling an "activation" with one of the >>SSL certificate authorities. >> >>I usually buy a "RapidSSL" (Verisign) certificate from >>https://www.sslmatrix.com/ -- they seem to have some of the best >>prices

Re: SSL Certificates

2012-02-16 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:57 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:49 PM, George Herbert > wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:17 PM, John Levine wrote: >> The problem with anything related to Verisign at the moment is that > >> The possibility of their r

Re: time sink 42

2012-02-16 Thread George Herbert
Brothers' are fine; buy the tapes that have the split-down-the-middle backing on them. It reduces the unpeeling problem from more-time-than-the-label-took-to-type-in to about 2 seconds. You just grab the edges at an end and bend it, so the backing bulges outwards, and off it starts to come. -ge

Re: time sink 42

2012-02-16 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 16/02/2012 21:14, George Herbert wrote: >> Brothers' are fine; buy the tapes that have the split-down-the-middle >> backing on them. >> >> It reduces the unpeeling problem from >> more-time-tha

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-16 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Jason Chambers wrote: > On 2/16/12 5:03 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: >> Nanosecond Trading Could Make Markets Go Haywire >> http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/02/high-speed-trading/ >> >> "Below the 950-millisecond level, where computerized trading occurs so >>

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:09 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Aled Morris" > >> On 17 February 2012 18:43, Eric Tykwinski >> wrote: >> >> > +1 for GBICs, SFPs > >> You'll need to be carrying a lot of loose change then :-) > > In fact, vending machines with builtin

Re: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, George Carey wrote: > >> >> The vending machine should use a card like an ATM/gift card, not accept >> cash.  You should be able to "charge" the card with some cash via a web >> portal and keep the card in the facility in your space.  If something is >> needed,

Re: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 5:00 PM, George Herbert wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:44 PM, George Carey wrote: >> >>> >>> The vending machine should use a card like an ATM/gift card, not accept >>> cash.  You should be able to "charge" the card wit

Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-02-27 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 7:28 AM, William Herrin wrote: > On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: >>> On Feb 26, 2012, at 4:56 PM, Randy Carpenter wrote: >>> > 1. Full redundancy with instant failover to other hypervisor hosts >>> > upon hardware failure (I thought this was a given

Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-02-27 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 3:45 PM, William Herrin wrote: > On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 2:19 PM, George Herbert > wrote: >> Failing to have central shared storage (iSCSI, NAS, SAN, whatever you >> prefer) fails the smell test on a local enterprise-grade >> virtualization clu

Re: dns and software, was Re: Reliable Cloud host ?

2012-02-27 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 4:59 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > Yes, well, that's why we're still using a layer 4 protocol (TCP) that > can't dynamically rebind to the protocol level below (IP). This is somewhat irritating, but on the scale of 0 (all is well) to 10 (you want me to do WHAT with DH

Re: Programmers with network engineering skills

2012-02-27 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Jason Bertoch wrote: > On 2/27/2012 7:53 PM, William Herrin wrote: >>> >>> I think you're more likely to find a network engineer with (possibly >>> limited) >>> >  programming skills. >> >> I wish. For the past three months I've been trying to find a network >> eng

Re: Programmers with network engineering skills

2012-02-28 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 11:21 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Monday, February 27, 2012 07:53:07 PM William Herrin wrote: >> .../SCI clearance. >> >> The clearance is killing me. The two generalists didn't have a >> clearance and the cleared applicants are programmers or admins but >> never both. > > I

Re: Increase of DOS attacks using TCP src and/or dst of 0

2012-03-07 Thread George Herbert
Out of curiosity - Is it possible it's a command and control network, rather than directly an attack? On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Chris Stone wrote: > On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 1:45 PM, Matthew Huff wrote: >> Anyone else see a massive increase of scanning/dos with TCP source and/or >> dst por

Re: PLEASE don't feed the troll

2012-03-07 Thread George Herbert
Isabel - It does not take a PhD in computer science to understand networks or network protocol design. It does not take a PhD to understand that the troll's particular proposal was not a competent well-founded contribution. On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 7:25 AM, isabel dias wrote: > are you a PhD? ot

Re: cable markers for marine environments

2012-03-08 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > I have a couple of wiring projects coming up on salt water-going vessels and > I'm curious as to people's experiences with different types of cable marking > products in a high-humidity / salt air / bilge environment > > None of the marke

Re: cable markers for marine environments

2012-03-08 Thread George Herbert
Under the circumstances... I would tend to do a two-phase solution. 1. At both ends, above the bilge area, put the most durable printed labels you can find. 2. Both at the ends, and intermittently under the deck, use a coded ID number for each cable using those slip-on crimp-on types (the cabl

Re: Request to lease IP space, or things that make you want to go hmmmmm..

2012-03-08 Thread George Herbert
This tactic is extremely well known by spammers. Either sending from the blocks or hosting questionable client web (usually spammed URLs). There really isn't much else people try with this stuff. Yes, the space quickly goes on *BLs. They don't care; they get more and leave you holding the poop.

Re: filtering /48 is going to be necessary

2012-03-09 Thread George Herbert
If the LIRs cannot get separate allocations from the RIR (and separate ASNs) for this usage, something is wrong. We want to make things as simple and efficient as possible, but no simpler or more efficient, because the curves go back up again at that point, and we all suffer. -george On Fri, Ma

Re: shared address space... a reality!

2012-03-15 Thread George Herbert
What, senior network people testing out new test/transitional space at home before they test it at work is bad? On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 6:26 AM, Jérôme Nicolle wrote: > Le 15/03/12 07:59, Randy Bush a écrit : >> and i have configured two home LANs to use it > > So wrong... > > -- > Jérôme Nic

Re: shared address space... a reality!

2012-03-15 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: > > More like "wasting no time in fulfilling the prophesy that people will > treat it like just another rfc1918 space and deploy it wherever they want". > > not that randy is likely to get bitten because he's not behind a cgn > nor is he p

Re: $1.5 billion: The cost of cutting London-Tokyo latency by 60ms

2012-03-23 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 10:21 AM, wrote: > On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 15:56:46 -, Brandon Butterworth said: >> > I'd be quite interested in seeing the MTTR for a sub-ice cable break which >> > happened in late october. >> >> More fun too when we get global warming under control and there's no >> lon

Re: $1.5 billion: The cost of cutting London-Tokyo latency by 60ms

2012-03-23 Thread George Herbert
The physics is not conducive to improving the situation a lot. There's probably $1.5 billion in the ground already in neutrino detectors; the total combined detector bit rate is pretty poor. One experiment looking at neutrinos coming off the Fermilab accelerator had 473 million accelerator pulses

Re: $1.5 billion: The cost of cutting London-Tokyo latency by 60ms

2012-03-23 Thread George Herbert
>From the abstract: "The link achieved a decoded data rate of 0.1 bits/sec with a bit error rate of 1% over a distance of 1.035 km, including 240 m of earth." http://arxiv.org/pdf/1203.2847v1.pdf For practical communications, at longer distances, you probably lose beam intensity as a 1/R^2 funct

Re: $1.5 billion: The cost of cutting London-Tokyo latency by 60ms

2012-03-23 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 5:14 PM,   wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 13:16:59 -0700, George Herbert said: >>> The physics is not conducive to improving the situation a lot. >>> >>> There's proba

Re: SORBS?!

2012-04-06 Thread George Herbert
This seems like a very 1999 anti-spam attitude. I have been doing anti-spam a long long time - literally since before Canter and Siegel (who I had as customers...) and before j...@cup.portal.com. It's not 1999 anymore. Patrick is not the enemy. Your attitude is worrying. The "I am not respons

Re: Most energy efficient (home) setup

2012-04-15 Thread George Herbert
With RAID 4, the parity disk IOPS on write will rate-limit the whole LUN... No big deal on a 4-drive LUN; terror on a 15-drive LUN... George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Apr 14, 2012, at 8:04, Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Jeroen van Aart said: >> There may be a performan

Re: Network Storage

2012-04-15 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: > You can also look at a machine like this: > > http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/4U/417/SC417E16-R1400U.cfm > > Jared Mauch > > On Apr 12, 2012, at 5:47 PM, Matthew Luckie wrote: > >>> 1) My goal is to store the traffic may be fore eve

Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

2012-05-23 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 5:42 PM, wrote: > On Wed, 23 May 2012 13:09:09 -0700, Leo Bicknell said: > >>   "In 1988, while employed by DEC, he started working on the popular >>    internet domain name server BIND, of which he was the primary author and >>    architect, until release 8." >> >> ISC ha

Re: Vixie warns: DNS Changer ‘blackouts’ inevitable

2012-05-23 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 6:35 PM, Brett Watson wrote: > On May 23, 2012, at 18:27, George Herbert wrote: >> Please don't make me remember hosts.txt before I've had a chance to >> wrap up work, go home, and get some Scotch in... >> > > Come on George, ho

Re: isc - a good business

2012-05-28 Thread George Herbert
It's past given that large entities that can forge the use of BIND; at that point, engineering aside, Paul's point that the market and code have spoken is hard to deny. Sucks when it works against us... George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2012, at 12:52, Jay Ashworth wrote

Re: NXDomain remapping, DNSSEC, Layer 9, and you.

2012-05-28 Thread George Herbert
On May 28, 2012, at 22:59, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 12:38:23PM +1000, Mark Andrews wrote: >> >> Putting it another way, the ISP doesn't want to be fooled even if >> it is fooling its customers. > >don't lie to us, but we lie to our customers. > >

Re: very confusing.

2012-06-13 Thread George Herbert
I am as amused by antispam efforts as anyone, but can we stay on list topic? George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Jun 13, 2012, at 19:39, Owen DeLong wrote: > > > Sent from my iPad > > On Jun 13, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Joe Greco wrote: > >>> A trick to do on mail (USPS) spammers is ta

Re: FYI Netflix is down

2012-07-02 Thread George Herbert
Late reply, but: On Sat, Jun 30, 2012 at 12:30 AM, Lynda wrote: >... > Second, and more important. I *was* a "computer science guy" in a past life, > and this is nonsense. You can have astonishingly large software projects > that just continue to run smoothly, day in, day out, and they don't hit

Re: FYI Netflix is down

2012-07-02 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Greg D. Moore wrote: > At 03:08 PM 7/2/2012, George Herbert wrote: > > If folks have not read it, I would suggest reading Normal Accidents by > Charles Perrow. > > The "it can't happen" is almost guaranteed to happen. ;-)  And whe

Re: FYI Netflix is down

2012-07-02 Thread George Herbert
On Jul 2, 2012, at 7:19 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: > People are acting as if Netflix is part of some critical service they stream > movies for Christ sake. Some acceptable level of loss is fine for 99.99% of > Netflix's user base just like cable, electricity and running water I suffer a > f

Re: FYI Netflix is down

2012-07-03 Thread George Herbert
On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:38 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > - Original Message - >> From: "Steven Bellovin" > >> Subject: Re: FYI Netflix is down >> On Jul 2, 2012, at 3:43 PM, Greg D. Moore wrote: >> >>> At 03:08 PM 7/2/2012, George Herbert w

Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work?

2012-07-03 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > Most people operate on the assumption that there are 86400*365.25 seconds per > year overall and that every day is 86,400 seconds. UTC matches that common > conception of time. UT1 does not because UT1 monotonically increments one > sec

Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work?

2012-07-04 Thread George Herbert
On Jul 4, 2012, at 3:29 PM, Jason Hellenthal wrote: > Yeah but what you don't understand is that manual navigation after a > certain point of difference becomes inaccurate to a degree that is > unacceptable by most military standards. Manual navigation (sextant, etc) is dead. It's not taugh

Re: job screening question

2012-07-05 Thread George Herbert
On Jul 5, 2012, at 10:20 AM, Darius Jahandarie wrote: > On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Oliver Garraux wrote: >> Seems fairly straightforward to me. It'll break path MTU discovery. > > Since Bill said "(not IP in general, TCP specifically)", I don't think > PMTUD breaking is what he's look

Re: F-ckin Leap Seconds, how do they work?

2012-07-05 Thread George Herbert
On Jul 5, 2012, at 8:14 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: > > And, by the way, the deformations and exchanges of angular momentum > that drive Earth rotation variations are probably the best understood > global geophysical processes there are. Absolutely no magic is > required. Not the tectonic o

Re: job screening question

2012-07-05 Thread George Herbert
On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:32 PM, William Herrin wrote: > >> 5. What is the reason for the 100m distance limit within an ethernet >> collision domain? > > What's an ethernet collision domain? Seriously, when was the last time > you dealt with a half duplex ethernet? > Last time I built a clu

Re: job screening question

2012-07-06 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > On 06/07/2012 23:25, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: >> The Friday afternoon cynic in me says it's because it's a move with positive >> paybacks.  There's 3 basic possibilities: >> >> 1) You send the puffed resume to a company with clue, it get

Re: job screening question

2012-07-06 Thread George Herbert
On Fri, Jul 6, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Steven Noble wrote: > On Jul 6, 2012, at 4:16 PM, George Herbert wrote: > >> 6) Puffed it up a little (worked with Cisco routers, but in the 7200 >> era, and hasn't categorized skills as recent / older), but hasn't >> outright lie

Re: job screening question

2012-07-07 Thread George Herbert
On Jul 7, 2012, at 11:13 AM, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 11:01:29AM -0700, JC Dill wrote: >> On 06/07/12 9:06 PM, Matthew Palmer wrote: Maybe it's more significant to ask what the difference between TCP and UDP is. >>> Yes, the difference between TCP and UDP is a

Re: Admin? Bueller?

2012-07-10 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 9:41 AM, Matt Griswold wrote: > * Jon Lewis [120710 12:37 -0400]: >> Yahoo? Don't hold your breath. The person appears to have been >> using the same yahoo account for all the nig nog messages. Why >> whoever has admin rights to the mailing list hasn't >> removed/banned

Re: cost of misconfigurations

2012-08-01 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 5:32 PM, Diogo Montagner wrote: > Hi Darius, > > You are right. The lost of a customer due to those things. However, I > would classify this as an unknown situation (in terms of risk > analisys) because the others I mentioned are possible to calculate and > estimate (they ar

Re: Update from the NANOG Communications Committee regarding recent off-topic posts

2012-08-02 Thread George Herbert
Friends don't let friends binary shift. On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 2:47 PM, Jamie Bowden wrote: > What's an order of magnitude between friends? > > Very occasionally yours, > > -- > Jamie Bowden(ja...@photon.com) > Sr. Sys. Admin. (703) 243-6613 x3848 > Photon Research Associates,

Re: IPv6 End User Fee

2012-08-03 Thread George Herbert
If anyone's ISPs are overcharging them, I will be able to provide service for no more than 1 cent per available routable IPv6 address in any netblock from /64 on up. We have a reasonable startup rate of a /56 for the price of a /64 for the remainder of 2012, even! -george On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at

Re:

2012-08-21 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:25 PM, wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:11:49 -0500, Grant Ridder said: >> I love spam from Honduras. I am hoping that someone is going to kick this >> email from the members list. > > I'm hoping for something a tad more drastic. The bozo has an upstream, and > this > i

Re:

2012-08-21 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 4:06 PM, wrote: > On Tue, 21 Aug 2012, George Herbert wrote: >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 3:25 PM, wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 17:11:49 -0500, Grant Ridder said: >>>> >>>> I love spam from Honduras. I am

Re: 172.0.0.0/12 has been Allocated

2012-08-22 Thread George Herbert
On Aug 22, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Dan White wrote: > I also noticed a couple of subnets in that range showing up in the weekly > Cidr reports, beginning in July. Tests to see how bad /8 filters were before allocating the /12? Just curious... George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone

Re: XO outage in NJ/NY?

2012-08-30 Thread George Herbert
For anyone not already familiar, go sign up at: https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/outages On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Blake Dunlap wrote: > I suggest subscribing to outages. They are chatting about such a fiber cut, > and are generally the place to look for major outage level event

Re: Regarding smaller prefix for hijack protection

2012-08-30 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 8:41 AM, William Herrin wrote: > On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:54 AM, Anurag Bhatia wrote: >> Is using /24 a must to protect (a bit) against route hijacking? > > Hi Anurag, > > Not only is it _not_ a must, it doesn't work and it impairs your > ability to detect the fault. > >

Re: Blocking MX query

2012-09-04 Thread George Herbert
On Sep 4, 2012, at 12:07 PM, William Herrin wrote: > You are. You should be doing SMTP Auth to *your* email server on which > you have an authorized account and then letting it relay your messages > to the world. This is not the thread for this conversation per se. The practicality of gene

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-13 Thread George Herbert
On Sep 13, 2012, at 7:37 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote: > On 2012-09-13 16:29 , Jay Ashworth wrote: > [..] >> If not, do any of the people who've already done have 5 minutes to chime in >> on what they did and what they learned? > > You might want to go through the network presentations given for

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-18 Thread George Herbert
I'm having problems finding any announcements for this net 10/8, too. Can someone talk to these "IANA" folks about reclaiming it, too? They have a bunch of other space in 172.x they should be able to use... George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Sep 18, 2012, at 8:36 AM, "John Levine

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-18 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 4:29 PM, John R. Levine wrote: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, james jones wrote: > >> Are we still talking about this? I setup a lan at home once at that used >> 6/8 :) > > > They have nuclear weapons, too. Just saying. Which, the Army? I don't believe that's true anymore. I th

Re: Big Temporary Networks

2012-09-18 Thread George Herbert
Ok, as exciting as this all has been, it's grossly off topic now. Please retire the conversation to direct emails if you all want to keep arguing over it, m'kay? Thanks... -george On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 5:18 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > > >> From: William Herrin >> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 19:04

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-19 Thread George Herbert
As the subsequent discussion here shows, "unused" is a press inaccuracy. The nets are in active use; much of that use is not publicly advertised, but it's still in use. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Sep 19, 2012, at 1:35 PM, "Robert Guerra" wrote: > Am I correct in assuming th

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-20 Thread George Herbert
On Sep 19, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > There is still no technical reason that 240/4 cannot be > rehabilitated, other than continued immaterial objections to doing > anything at all with 240/4, and given the rate of IPv6 adoption thus > far, if not for those, it could possibly be r

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-20 Thread George Herbert
On Sep 20, 2012, at 12:21 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: > On 9/20/12 12:09 AM, George Herbert wrote: >> >> On Sep 19, 2012, at 9:58 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: >> >>> There is still no technical reason that 240/4 cannot be >>> rehabilitated, other than c

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-20 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > George Herbert wrote: > >> We could have started it at a more opportune time in the past. We could >> also have done other things like a straight IPv4-48 or IPv4-64, without the >> other protocol suite f

Re: The Department of Work and Pensions, UK has an entire /8

2012-09-20 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 5:13 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: > On 19-Sep-12 03:46, Alex Harrowell wrote: >> On the other hand, the scarcity is of *globally unique routable* >> addresses. You can make a case that private use of (non-RFC1918) IPv4 >> resources is wasteful in itself at the moment. To be pr

Re: /. Terabit Ethernet is Dead, for Now

2012-09-27 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 08:58:09AM -0400, Darius > Jahandarie wrote: >> I recall 40Gbit/s Ethernet being promoted heavily for similar reasons >> as the ones in this article, but then 100Gbit/s being the technology >> that

Re: IPv6 Ignorance

2012-09-28 Thread George Herbert
My customer the Dark Matter local galaxy group beg to disagree; just because you cannot see them does not mean that you cannot feel them gravitationally. Or route to them. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Sep 28, 2012, at 10:31 PM, "John R. Levine" wrote: >> You won't have enoug

Re: IPv4 address length technical design

2012-10-03 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Tony Hain wrote: >> Sadiq Saif [mailto:sa...@asininetech.com] wrote: >> >> On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Chris Campbell >> wrote: >> > Is anyone aware of any historical documentation relating to the choice of >> > 32 >> bits for an IPv4 address? >> > >> > Chee

Re: IPv4 address length technical design

2012-10-03 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Izaac wrote: > On Wed, Oct 03, 2012 at 06:52:57PM +0200, Seth Mos wrote: >> "Pick a number between this and that." It's the 80's and you can >> still count the computers in the world. :) > > And yet, almost concurrently, IEEE 802 went with forty-eight bits. Go > f

Re: IPv4 address length technical design

2012-10-03 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Scott Weeks wrote: > > > --- j...@baylink.com wrote: > From: Jay Ashworth > > So the address space for IPv8 will be... > > - > > > Jim says: > > "IPv8 - 43 bits (3+8+32) > > There is a natural routing hierarchy with

Re: IPv4 address length technical design

2012-10-03 Thread George Herbert
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Oct 3, 2012, at 3:49 PM, Jimmy Hess wrote: > >> On 10/3/12, Jay Ashworth wrote: >>> So the address space for IPv8 will be... >>> >> >> In 100 years, when we start to run out of IPv6 addresses, possibly we >> will have learned our lesson

Re: IPv4 address length technical design

2012-10-04 Thread George Herbert
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Barry Shein wrote: > > In Singapore in June 2011 I gave a talk at HackerSpaceSG about just > doing away with IP addresses entirely, and DNS. > > Why not just use host names directly as addresses? Bits is bits, FQDNs > are integers because, um, bits is bits. They're

Re: IPv4 address length technical design

2012-10-06 Thread George Herbert
As I said earlier, names' structure does not map to network or physical location structure. DNS is who; IP is where. Both are reasonably efficient now as separate entities. Combining them will wreck one. You're choosing to wreck routing (where), which to backbone people sounds frankly stark

Re: IPv4 address length technical design

2012-10-07 Thread George Herbert
On Oct 6, 2012, at 11:35 AM, Barry Shein wrote: > > We can map from host names to ip addresses to routing actions, right? > > So clearly they're not unrelated or independent variables. There's a > smooth function from hostname->ipaddr->routing. No. Not just no, but hell no at the asserted c

Re: Typical additional latency for CGN?

2012-10-07 Thread George Herbert
Ancedotally, for users of an e-gadget company's website, cellphone company's outbound web proxies, internet games company, and image-intensive home furnishings website, the CGNs delivered content faster than the main website could, regardless of increasing its bandwidth. Latency problems with the

Re: Typical additional latency for CGN?

2012-10-07 Thread George Herbert
Sorry, at a conference and not paying enough attention to email. My bad. -george On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Cutler James R wrote: > On Oct 7, 2012, at 4:56 PM, George Herbert wrote: >> Ancedotally, for users of an e-gadget company's website, cellphone >> company&#x

Re: Multiple Sprint Outages?

2012-10-08 Thread George Herbert
Yes, multiple reports on the outages list, which you should also join. Short summary: WI and Washington state separate fiber cuts. -george On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:06 PM, Eric Rosenberry wrote: > Looks like Sprint is having a very bad day today in the NW? > > Anybody able to elaborate on exac

Re: Multiple Sprint Outages?

2012-10-08 Thread George Herbert
management is at puck.nether.net (Jared Mauch) but managed by Vivendra Rode. -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:19 PM, George Herbert wrote: > Yes, multiple reports on the outages list, which you should also join. > > Short summary: WI and Washing

Re: Detection of Rogue Access Points

2012-10-15 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 4:06 PM, Sean Harlow wrote: > On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 12:00 PM, Joe Hamelin wrote: > >> >> Maybe because he has 130 sites and 130 truck rolls is not cheap. Also >> company policy says no. >> >> > You are correct that deploying to a number of sites isn't cheap, but the > a

Re: Coded TCP

2012-10-23 Thread George Herbert
Modeled with just simple FTP sessions? Ugh: they admitted to having MIT backbone packet traces to analyze, and then used that simple of a simulator... George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:29 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: > "With coded TCP, blocks of packets are clumped

Re: Coded TCP

2012-10-23 Thread George Herbert
iPhone On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:57 PM, "Michael Painter" wrote: > George Herbert wrote: >> Modeled with just simple FTP sessions? >> >> Ugh: they admitted to having MIT backbone packet traces to analyze, and then >> used that simple of a simulator... > >

Re: the little ssh that (sometimes) couldn't

2012-10-29 Thread George Herbert
On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 10:07 AM, wrote: > > corruption! > > > http://mina.naguib.ca/blog/2012/10/22/the-little-ssh-that-sometimes-couldnt.html > > > /bill This is an excellent full-stack debugging war story. Thanks for posting it, Bill. -- -george william herbert george.herb...@gmail.com

Re: dhcpy6d - a MAC address aware DHCPv6 server

2012-11-06 Thread George Herbert
Oh, horrors, part of my infrastructure needs raw socket data? We should ban that, for security. Who needs those pesky switches anyways? George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone On Nov 6, 2012, at 5:49 AM, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 05:38:32AM -0800, > Owen DeLong

Re: Eaton 9130 UPS feedback

2012-11-13 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> From: Blake Dunlap >> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:20:35 -0600 >>_ >> On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 2:27 PM, Mike A wrote: >> >> > On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 11:59:18AM -0800, Seth Mattinen wrote: >> > > Does anyone use Eaton 9130 series UPS for any

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-19 Thread George Herbert
crossreplying to outages list. Is anyone ELSE seeing GPS issues? This could well have been an unrelated issue on that particular PBX. If this was real, then the mother of all infrastructure attacks might be underway... One glitch on tick and tock and one malfunctioning PBX is not sufficient evi

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread George Herbert
On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:39 AM, Jared Mauch wrote: . > > I've also been looking at an item like this: > > http://www.netburnerstore.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PK70EX-NTP > > which is about $300 + misc parts. > > Should be well worth it to avoid a 'major outage' that some folks had wi

Re: Picking outside NTP servers (Re: NTP Issues Today)

2012-11-20 Thread George Herbert
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > For myself, I usually pick the first three in us.pool.ntp.org, tick and tock, > time.nist.gov, and a couple of regionally appropriate large universities. As this week indicated, perhaps tick and tock are not sufficiently far apart to be

Re: NTP Issues Today

2012-11-20 Thread George Herbert
As a reminder - time infrastructure is not recommended for virtualization. Make them physicals. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Blake Dunlap wrote: > That's what happens when you just follow vendor recommendations blindly. If > you do follow that on vm's (which can actually be a good practice)

Re: Major California Faults Ready To Rupture | IFLScience

2014-10-18 Thread George Herbert
You should restate the "predates"; I was on console on earthquake.berkeley.edu at the time Loma Prieta let go, using among other things (then) Forumnet (now) ICB in a chat, and one of the immediate damage indications was that everyone at UC Santa Cruz dropped offline. Topic important, though, I

Re: Major California Faults Ready To Rupture | IFLScience

2014-10-19 Thread George Herbert
On Oct 19, 2014, at 6:19, "Jay Ashworth" wrote: >> >> How widespread were the effects on backbone communication circuits from >> those quakes? >> >>> On October 18, 2014 3:22:58 PM EDT, Bill Woodcock wrote: >>> >>>> O

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT]

2014-10-21 Thread George Herbert
> On Oct 21, 2014, at 6:03 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > GNOME is probably the linchpin. > > But it's not just RH. It's Debian, and by extension *buntu, and SuSE, and > at least one other major independent parent distro that I can't think of > just now... > > And as far as I know, it's done

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch

2014-10-22 Thread George Herbert
> On Oct 22, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > > The people that like systemd (like myself) have wisely learned that > the people that hate systemd, hate it mostly because it's different > from what came before and don't want to change. There's no way to > argue rationally with that.

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd [OT]

2014-10-22 Thread George Herbert
Ok. As a highly on- list-topic example of why distrust is called for... Without referring to the systemd source code*, does anyone know what systemd uses to select between networking subsystems (i.e. NetworkManager, the new standard as of RHEL 7, vs /etc/ sysconfig/network-scripts/, etc.).

Re: cheap laptop with 32G or 64G recommendations

2014-11-10 Thread George Herbert
"Nobody will ever need more than 64K...M...G..." George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 10, 2014, at 4:24 PM, Izaac wrote: > >> On November 10, 2014 4:49:08 PM EST, lobna gouda >> wrote: >> Hello, >> Any recommendation, not looking for anything fantasy, my understanding >> it sh

Re: Craigslist hacked?

2014-11-24 Thread George Herbert
He didn't hack the registry, he hijacked its records. And this is far from the first time a registry account was hacked. But, yeah, *still* not secure enough. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Randy Epstein wrote: > >> On 11/24/14, 5:08 PM, "Michael

Re: Craigslist hacked?

2014-11-24 Thread George Herbert
And that was July 1997 not 96, though that does nothing to make me feel younger ... George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2014, at 4:16 PM, George Herbert wrote: > > > He didn't hack the registry, he hijacked its records. And this is far from > the f

Re: Craigslist hacked?

2014-11-24 Thread George Herbert
> On Nov 24, 2014, at 4:18 PM, Randy Epstein wrote: > > Actually, he didn’t hack its records either. He exploited a bug in BIND. ...returned a legit response plus a tacked-on glue record for www.internic.net anytime you queried his nameserver, which he tricked people into doing with mixt

Re: gamer "lag" dashboard

2015-01-19 Thread George Herbert
Emulating game traffic... Good luck with that. You'll probably have to figure it out and build your own models per service, though a lot is encapsulated in https. In terms of showing it to the public, look at Zabbix and Zenoss; both do dashboards and managing multiple realtime monitoring / pe

Re: gamer "lag" dashboard

2015-01-19 Thread George Herbert
Cruel, cruel man. George William Herbert Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 19, 2015, at 6:56 PM, Charles N Wyble wrote: > > SSL is no problem. We just had a whole thread about breaking it. :-) > > >> On January 19, 2015 5:16:43 PM CST, George Herbert >> wrote

Re: Cisco Nexus

2015-02-02 Thread George Herbert
I wasn't the implementing engineer but I've been at two places that did that, a larger game company and a network gear manufacturer in their engineering support computational hubs. I was there during planning and rollout at the game company, very early in the Nexus lifespan. Both sites brough

Re: Cisco Nexus

2015-02-02 Thread George Herbert
> Brandon Ewing wrote: > >> David Bass wrote: >> The n2k ToR is not a great design for user or storage interfaces if most of >> your traffic is east/west. It is great as a low cost ilo/drac/choose your >> oob port, or if most of your traffic is north/south. Biggest thing to >> remember i

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