Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't > let vendor specificity scare you off. This is a riot! I'd love to have something like this at

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Tom Perrine
On 2/17/12 10:35 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't > let vendor specificity scare you off. Clue in a Can - I prefer the 8 oz size, but sometimes it would be nic

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:52 AM, -Hammer- wrote: > Let me simplify that. If you are over 35 you know how to troubleshoot. > Is this a statement or something to be added to the list of misconceptions that are commonplace out there? Not trying to be flip... Honestly asking the question. I can see i

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Jay Ashworth wrote: Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't let vendor specificity scare you off. 1. 1GB+ USB sticks 2. Cat5E patch cords in various lengths 3. Rack screw

RE: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Eric Tykwinski
+1 for GBICs, SFPs I don't know if it's just me, but I have the worst luck with them. -Original Message- From: Jonathan Lassoff [mailto:j...@thejof.com] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:40 PM To: Jay Ashworth Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:3

RE: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Kenneth M. Chipps Ph.D.
Exactly right. They have some much information floating around in their heads many of them cannot fit it together. But once they get on the job, all of those little synapses rapidly connect, and then the light comes on. Higher education is just like drivers education. You did not learn to drive in

Re: common time-management mistake: rack & stack

2012-02-17 Thread Mike Andrews
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:15:09PM -0500, Tony Patti wrote: > In the context of the military scenario above, Grace Hopper comes to mind > because of her nanoseconds etc > "In her retirement speech, instead of dwelling on the past, she talked about > moving toward the future, stressing the importan

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Jay Ashworth" > Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't > let vendor specificity scare you off. And I'll start: 1) Cat 5e molded, hooded patch cables,

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
rackmount screws, nuts, bolts, rubber rings for both M6 and whatever other stuff ppl use (that smaller size is common too ;) preferably in both black and silver color. 19" trays 19" electricity socket bars IEC power cables. ethernet patch cables 3 meter screwdriver sets and whatever other st

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Valdis Kletnieks" > On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:01:36 EST, Rodrick Brown said: > > Trades today in the equity markets must be within the national best > > bid, best > > offer price range or companies can be fined by the SEC which is why > > latency > > an jitter c

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Andrew D Kirch
On 2/17/2012 1:35 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't let vendor specificity scare you off. Cheers, -- jra console cables (cisco juniper adtran) 1' extension cords

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Jay Ashworth" > 2) Power cords: C19 to L6-15, C19 to C20, C13 to C20 (latter 2 for > 208V PDUs) Oh: "in black and red" Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com Designer The Things

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:40 AM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: >> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a >> vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't >> let vendor specificity scare yo

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Leigh Porter
On 17 Feb 2012, at 18:37, "Jay Ashworth" wrote: > Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't > let vendor specificity scare you off. Pizza, condoms and headache tablets. -- Leigh

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 17, 2012, at 7:20 AM, David Barak wrote: >> From: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com > >> Sigh... NAT is a horrible hack that served us all too well in address >> conservation. Beyond that, it is merely a source of pain. > > I understand why you say that - NAT did yeoman's work in address > c

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Owen DeLong
Now, come on... If you're in the 40-50 range, you should have put octal before hex. :p Owen (Who grew up on a PDP-11 in his high-school and still remembers 1777300 and its significance to anyone who has used a larger PDP system) On Feb 17, 2012, at 7:51 AM, -Hammer- wrote: > Mario, >I was

RE: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Erik Soosalu
1) Patch cables every 1' length from 3-10' 2) Velcro wrap 3) Tools (screwdrivers, etc) And since the racks usually come with the cage nuts, maybe the colo should just provide them. Thanks, Erik -Original Message- From: Jay Ashworth [mailto:j...@baylink.com] Sent: Friday, February 17,

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:36:35PM -0500, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > Am I the only one who thinks that if network jitter can make you fall outside > the acceptable price window, maybe, just maybe, the market is just too damned > volatile for its own good? I've had an i

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Paul Graydon
On 02/17/2012 08:36 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 13:01:36 EST, Rodrick Brown said: Trades today in the equity markets must be within the national best bid, best offer price range or companies can be fined by the SEC which is why latency an jitter can be problematic in f

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:35:15PM -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't > let vendor specificity scare you off. USB->Serial adapters. Pre

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Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Jay Ashworth wrote: Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't let vendor specificity scare you off. To my original list, I'll also add cage nut extractors. When available,

RE: common time-management mistake: rack & stack

2012-02-17 Thread Tony Patti
> From: Mike Andrews [mailto:mi...@mikea.ath.cx] > Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:44 PM > To: 'NANOG' > Subject: Re: common time-management mistake: rack & stack > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:15:09PM -0500, Tony Patti wrote: > > > In the context of the military scenario above, Grace Hopper c

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
rj45 crimp connectors for both 8p8c flatcable and cat5e (they are different!) "cisco" type db9-rj45 adapters, prewired (when you buy them bulk they usually come unwired ;) tierips empty cds/dvds usb cd/dvd writers (see rs232 ;) usb floppy drives (yes, they're still around ;) 3.5" HD flopp

Re:WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Ken Gilmour
Phase testers Velcro Flashlight (depending on how well lit the dc is) -- Sent from my Android tablet. Please excuse my brevity On Feb 17, 2012 6:35 PM, "Jay Ashworth" wrote: > Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at your colo; please be as spe

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:35:15PM -0500, Jay Ashworth > wrote: >> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a >> vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't >> let

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
noise/ear protectors! On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Leigh Porter wrote: On 17 Feb 2012, at 18:37, "Jay Ashworth" wrote: Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't let vendor specificity scare you off

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Bryan Irvine
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote: > In a message written on Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:35:15PM -0500, Jay Ashworth > wrote: >> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a >> vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't >> let

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Owen DeLong
This reminds me of what I think is the biggest root misconception of the 20th and 21st centuries: Rapid step-by-step training can replace conceptual education on the fundamentals. In other words, we have moved from the old-school of teaching people why things work and how they work to a newer

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Tom Perrine
On 2/17/12 10:52 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: > > On 17 Feb 2012, at 18:37, "Jay Ashworth" wrote: > >> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a >> vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't >> let vendor specificity scare you off. > > Pizza

RE: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Erik Soosalu wrote: 1) Patch cables every 1' length from 3-10' 2) Velcro wrap 3) Tools (screwdrivers, etc) And since the racks usually come with the cage nuts, maybe the colo should just provide them. they do? nonono, you have to buy those seperately :P racks don't eve

RE: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread George Bonser
Diagonal cutters Screwdriver with interchangeable Phillips/straight blade Small flashlight (with the data center provider's logo even!) Headlamp Small mirror (inspection mirror) Rack screws Zip ties Velcro ties Sharpie markers Pens Notebook of shirt pocket size with pages that can be easily torn o

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:49:13 PST, Owen DeLong said: > Now, come on... If you're in the 40-50 range, you should have put octal > before hex. :p IBM S/360 definitely preferred hex. And EBCDIC. pgpJXJPC98gau.pgp Description: PGP signature

RE: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Erik Soosalu
I know I'm being a freaking idealist. My tool bag carries all my required sets of screws and cage nuts. Works great until the first level guy decides to borrow something and not put it back. Thanks, Erik -Original Message- From: Sven Olaf Kamphuis [mailto:s...@cb3rob.net] Sent: Friday,

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Bill Blackford
1. patch cables. MMF and SMF, LC and SC and LC/SC to include LC and SC couplers so one can mix-and-match 2. Velcro wraps. 3. cage nuts/bolts -b On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:35 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at y

RE: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't > let vendor specificity scare you off. > > Cheers, > -- jra > -- > Jay R. Ashworth Baylink > j...@baylink.com > Designer

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
if a pop doesn't come with a hotel with a bar in front of the door, or at least around the corner, and preferably free beer, coffee, etc in the cantina as well, we're not a customer of theirs haha. headace tables are good.. but then again, with noise protectors you would not get the headace in

RE: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
or you just use your datacenter access rfid pass to pay and they put it on the bill later on. -- Greetings, Sven Olaf Kamphuis, CB3ROB Ltd. & Co. KG = Address: Koloniestrasse 34 VAT Tax ID: DE267268209

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Matthew S. Crocker
Serial cables, DB9 -> USB converts and all of the various vendor adapters to make it work. WTSHTF I'm always digging through my gear looking for the right serial adapter. Duct tape, paper clips and chewing gum. If it was good enough for McGyver it is good enough for me. - Original Messa

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Mike Lyon
1. BNC tees 2. FDDI cables 3. AUI to BNC adapters. On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Tom Perrine wrote: > On 2/17/12 10:52 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: > > > > On 17 Feb 2012, at 18:37, "Jay Ashworth" wrote: > > > >> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > >> vend

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jens Link
Leo Bicknell writes: > USB->Serial adapters. Preferably selected so they are driverless on > both OSX and Windows. :) ^^^ Wahahahaha There is no such thing. I've seen people reinstalling their Windows after trying to use another USB->Serial adapter. I also have seen peo

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
there is, you can have a pci-bridge or isa-bridge on usb... and then have a normal rs232 card in it *grin* so far for wintendo :P (yes it does understand the concept of having a usb-connected pci interface :P On Fri, 17 Feb 2012, Jens Link wrote: Leo Bicknell writes: USB->Serial adapter

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Fri Feb 17 13:11:28 > 2012 > To: Owen DeLong > Subject: Re: Common operational misconceptions > From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2012 14:04:45 -0500 > Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" > > On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:49:13 PST, Owen DeLong

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread -Hammer-
I give I give. I should have. But I left a bunch of stuff out and the folks that I'm referring to know it. One of the fun things I do with network guys is ask them about canonical bit ordering across routers. Always causes the room to go quiet. Them someone of the appropriate age group will spe

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread -Hammer-
Well put and great example Owen. -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer On 2/17/2012 12:59 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: This reminds me of what I think is the biggest root misconception of the 20th and 21st centuries: Rapid step-by-step training can replace conceptual education on t

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Scott Weeks
I find a lot of new folks have a hard time with the difference in port numbers and protocol numbers. I just went through this with a CC, but with virtually no hands-on experience a few minutes ago. Very disturbing when a person can take the higher level tests, but still can't understand

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Jens Link
Owen DeLong writes: > 1.When the only tool you have is a hammer, you try to mold every problem > into a nail. Ack. > 2.When you only know a procedure for doing something and don't understand > the fundamentals > of why X is supposed to occur at step Y, then when you get result A

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Tom Perrine
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 On 2/17/12 11:04 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: > On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:49:13 PST, Owen DeLong said: >> Now, come on... If you're in the 40-50 range, you should have put octal >> before hex. :p > > IBM S/360 definitely preferred hex. And E

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jens Link
Sven Olaf Kamphuis writes: > 3.5" HD floppies (yes, they're still around ;) Really? I thought Deutsche Bahn was last company using them: "Unfortunately we can't display reservation information." Okay, knowing Deutsche Bahn the disks might not be 3,5". ;-) Jens --

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
missing? That's bad. If not, can you reach the route? Try this radical command that was invented by Steve Jobs while working on his first IPhone (They won't know who Vint Cerf or anyone else is and by using Steves name they will trust you)(I run Android): telnet 1.2.3.4 1433 What? It answered?

RE: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread George Bonser
> > 3. Troubleshooting skills are limited to knowing the number of the > vendor's help desk. > > There are no problems! Can't be. And if there are they hire external > experts. BTDT. Those are well paid jobs. I see that a lot and there is often an organizational reason for it. If a tech says "

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 19:18, Robert Bonomi wrote: > And the  _real_ number crunchers used ones-complement arithmetic. Not to mention 0 had a sign (and 0 did not compare as equal to -0).

RE: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread George Bonser
> A tech trying to troubleshoot it and fix it themselves is going to be > hounded every five minutes for status updates and won't be able to get > any work done because every five minutes (I kid you not, I have worked > where that is a requirement) he has to pull his head out of what he is > doing

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Ray Soucy
As someone who was born in 1984 I respectfully disagree. ;-) On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:52 AM, -Hammer- wrote: > Let me simplify that. If you are over 35 you know how to troubleshoot. > > Yes, I'm going to get flamed. Yes, there are exceptions in both directions. > > > -Hammer- > > "I was a nor

Re: common time-management mistake: rack & stack

2012-02-17 Thread Scott Weeks
--- gary.buhrmas...@gmail.com wrote: There is a theory of management that says a good manager needs to know nothing about the staff or the jobs he is managing, - :-) >From empirical data, this is not a good thing for companies. They constantly make

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Randy Bush
> GCOS - 36 bits and Octal and BCD (ASCII added later) > DEC 10 and 20 - 36 bits and Octal > PDP-8 - Octal 704 - was i think 36-bit but the mind fades 704x/709x - 36 bit 1401 - variable word length with BCD+zone-bit encoding per char randy

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Owen DeLong
I have found that the best solution to persistent hounding goes about like this: "Sir, I'm doing everything I can to resolve the problem as quickly as possible. However, I can focus on giving you status updates every 5 minutes, or, I can focus on resolving the problem. I cannot do both. which wo

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Todd Snyder
as a 33 year old, I'm looking forward to hitting 35 so I can finally understand what you guys are talking about! Will I get some sort of glow or achievement? think I'll get a raise when I can add 'troubleshooting' to my resume? :) On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 2:42 PM, Ray Soucy wrote: > As someone

RE: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Brandt, Ralph
I just pulled the humorous point about Mary the accountant out, pasted its link into an email and sent it to our staff with the suggestion they read it. I was going to past it here but decided to let someone who wants to read it go to the site, they may learn something by accident if they do. I

RE: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Kiriki Delany
Why not just simultaneously settle all trades at the same time? Once every minute, or every 5 minutes, or per day? There are many solutions to the problem. I'm sure those that can take advantage of the latency don't want the solution. Kiriki Delany -Original Message- From: Leo Bicknel

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, February 17, 2012 01:30:30 AM Carsten Bormann wrote: > Ah, one of the greatest misconceptions still around in 2012: > -- OSI Layer numbers mean something. > or > -- Somewhere in the sky, there is an exact definition of what is layer 2, > layer 3, layer 4, layer 5 (!), layer 7 Misconce

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Garrett Skjelstad
You must have a pre-dotcom bubble datacenter... Sent from my iPhone On Feb 17, 2012, at 10:52, Leigh Porter wrote: > > On 17 Feb 2012, at 18:37, "Jay Ashworth" wrote: > >> Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a >> vending machine at your colo; please be as sp

Re: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jason Baugher
Better double the size of the colo to accommodate the rows upon rows of vending machines filled with all the stuff you would have brought with you if you'd planned ahead.

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Leigh Porter
Did anybody say beer yet? -- Leigh On 17 Feb 2012, at 18:37, "Jay Ashworth" wrote: > Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't > let vendor specificity scare you off. > > Cheers, > -- jra

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Peter Kristolaitis
On 12-02-17 03:05 PM, Leigh Porter wrote: Did anybody say beer yet? Don't forget the 30lb sledgehammer for those times when, ah, "percussive maintenance" is the only possible solution. ;) (Might be a bit hard to fit into a vending machine though... maybe the colo staff could just rent one

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Craig
Some longer term players, will use delayed data as they are trading longer term, and dont care too much so if the orders were delayed a bit more, these players most likely wouldn't care/notice. But also you have to consider, there are a large degree of shorter term players, who are in/out of the m

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 2/17/12 11:47 , Kiriki Delany wrote: > Why not just simultaneously settle all trades at the same time? Once every > minute, or every 5 minutes, or per day? > > There are many solutions to the problem. I'm sure those that can take > advantage of the latency don't want the solution. Ask yourse

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Brielle Bruns
On 2/17/12 11:55 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote: USB->Serial adapters. Preferably selected so they are driverless on both OSX and Windows.:) If you preinstall the Prolific PL-2303 (either commercial or open source driver version, at least on Mac) or MOSChip, you'll have drivers for 99% of the USB to

RE: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Mario Eirea
Don't forget the lube. Mario Eirea From: Leigh Porter [leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com] Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 1:52 PM To: Jay Ashworth Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine On 17 Feb 2012, at 18:37, "Jay Ashworth" wrote: > Please post yo

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jeff Kell
Direct phone number of a 2nd level TAC that speaks English and doesn't read from a transcript :) Lots of good mentions, I might add two... (1) Snap-on multitool plier (or linesman equivalent), combination plier/diags/various screwdrivers, etc. (2) Universal power brick On the last one above, I a

Re: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Randy Bush
i just want to pay a compliment to the fibercloud colo in the seattle westin. there are crash carts, a tool-chest, rack screws, other screws, garbage cans, ... and, if you are polite, they'll loan you usbs, blank cds, ... and, as remote hands, they are smarter than i. oops, maybe that's not a c

Re: Hi speed trading - hi speed monitoring

2012-02-17 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Craig" > But also you have to consider, there are a large degree of shorter term > players, who are in/out of the market and play both sides, these do have > real-time data feeds, and do care about latency. Some shops go as far as to > only use a certain leng

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Leigh Porter
On 17 Feb 2012, at 20:10, "Peter Kristolaitis" wrote: > On 12-02-17 03:05 PM, Leigh Porter wrote: >> Did anybody say beer yet? >> > > Don't forget the 30lb sledgehammer for those times when, ah, "percussive > maintenance" is the only possible solution. ;) > > (Might be a bit hard to fit int

Re: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Leigh Porter
On 17 Feb 2012, at 20:18, "Randy Bush" wrote: > i just want to pay a compliment to the fibercloud colo in the seattle > westin. there are crash carts, a tool-chest, rack screws, other screws, > garbage cans, ... and, if you are polite, they'll loan you usbs, blank > cds, ... and, as remote ha

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 18:06, George Bonser wrote: > Fry's wanted $55 for a 1 meter LC-LC multi-mode patch cord yesterday at the > store on Arques in Sunnyvale. Admittedly high, but in the same store, one set of rows to the left (as you were looking at the fibres) they sell 12-24 rack scre

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread -Hammer-
Still buzzing over that cheap auto insurance eh? :) Wait till people stop carding you. -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer On 2/17/2012 1:42 PM, Ray Soucy wrote: As someone who was born in 1984 I respectfully disagree. ;-) On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:52 AM, -Hammer- w

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Ray Soucy
Maybe ;-) I don't think it's an age thing, though. The number of people who have a real interest in technology, and how things work "under the hood" hasn't changed much. I know people 10 years younger than me who can keep up with the best of us, and people 10 years older who are complete failure

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Robert Bonomi
Leigh Porter wrote; > On 17 Feb 2012, at 20:10, "Peter Kristolaitis" wrote: > > On 12-02-17 03:05 PM, Leigh Porter wrote: > >> Did anybody say beer yet? I think it's safe to say that the Datacenter operators generally want customer visits to be as un-beer-able as they can make it. > > Don't fo

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread -Hammer-
I couldn't argue with any of that. Again, there are exceptions on either side. -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer On 2/17/2012 2:40 PM, Ray Soucy wrote: Maybe ;-) I don't think it's an age thing, though. The number of people who have a real interest in technology, and how

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Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Eric Stewart
On 2/17/2012 3:06 PM, Peter Kristolaitis wrote: Don't forget the 30lb sledgehammer for those times when, ah, "percussive maintenance" is the only possible solution. ;) My previous job had me managing our presence in a data center. For several months, in the row of racks across the hot aisle

NANOG Digest... digest or closer to IM?

2012-02-17 Thread Mark Kent
I got 29 NANOG Digest messages in the past 24 hours. Where are those people who have time to complain about the noise on this list? Did they all leave? Is anyone else willing to take up the cause? -mark

Re: NANOG Digest... digest or closer to IM?

2012-02-17 Thread John Levine
>I got 29 NANOG Digest messages in the past 24 hours. > >Where are those people who have time to complain about the noise on >this list? Did they all leave? Is anyone else willing to take up >the cause? Maybe we've finally all learned how to make our mail programs sort the mail. R's, John

Re: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread George Carey
> > The vending machine should use a card like an ATM/gift card, not accept cash. > You should be able to "charge" the card with some cash via a web portal and > keep the card in the facility in your space. If something is needed, one can > purchase it with the card. If there is no money on

Re: Common operational misconceptions

2012-02-17 Thread Cutler James R
On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: > On Feb 17, 2012, at 6:52 AM, -Hammer- wrote: > >> Let me simplify that. If you are over 35 you know how to troubleshoot. >> > Is this a statement or something to be added to the list of misconceptions > that are commonplace out there? > > Not tr

Re: NANOG Digest... digest or closer to IM?

2012-02-17 Thread Joel Esler
I think you just volunteered. -- Joel Esler On Feb 17, 2012, at 4:13 PM, Mark Kent wrote: > I got 29 NANOG Digest messages in the past 24 hours. > > Where are those people who have time to complain about the noise on > this list? Did they all leave? Is anyone else willing to take up > the

BGP Update Report

2012-02-17 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 09-Feb-12 -to- 16-Feb-12 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS840283278 3.8% 38.5 -- CORBINA-AS OJSC "Vimpelcom" 2 - AS982939627 1.8

The Cidr Report

2012-02-17 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Feb 17 21:12:44 2012 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: Which way to fold the label (was: Re: time sink 42)

2012-02-17 Thread Karl Auer
On Fri, 2012-02-17 at 10:28 -0500, Jay Ashworth wrote: > > What?!? Forward instead of backward? KILL THE UNBELIEVER! KILL! KILL! > > Way to misquote me, Karl. :-) Ayup! :-) Regards, K. -- ~~~ Karl Auer (ka...@biplane.com.au)

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Rodrick Brown
On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: > Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't > let vendor specificity scare you off. > atom based 10" laptop with serial interface and cable. $

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jason Baugher
Do you guys ride your bike to the colo and show up in shorts and a t-shirt? Who goes to the colo without things like their laptop? On 2/17/2012 4:22 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: On Feb 17, 2012, at 1:35 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see i

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Rodrick Brown
On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:55 PM, Jason Baugher wrote: > Do you guys ride your bike to the colo and show up in shorts and a t-shirt? > Who goes to the colo without things like their laptop? > Think of it as one less thing to carry to carry to the colo :-) > > On 2/17/2012 4:22 PM, Rodrick Brown

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Pierre-Yves Maunier
2012/2/17 Jay Ashworth > Please post your top 3 favorite components/parts you'd like to see in a > vending machine at your colo; please be as specific as possible; don't > let vendor specificity scare you off. > > Cheers, > -- jra > > 1 - As previously said : LC/SC couplers + patchcords 2 - fibre

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Aled Morris
On 17 February 2012 18:43, Eric Tykwinski wrote: > +1 for GBICs, SFPs > > You'll need to be carrying a lot of loose change then :-) My ideal vending machine would dispense Cat5e by the foot, the more you pull the more you pay, RJ45 plugs in pairs, and a crimp tool on a long chain (like the way y

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread david raistrick
On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Pierre-Yves Maunier wrote: 6 - plastic cable clamps (don't know the exact english term for that but I mean this --> http://www.hellopro.fr/images/produit-2/9/3/8/serre-cables-261839.jpg) also known as "zip tie" or "plastic cable tie" more generically -- david raistrick

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Aled Morris
On 17 February 2012 23:23, david raistrick wrote: > On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Pierre-Yves Maunier wrote: > > 6 - plastic cable clamps (don't know the exact english term for that but I >> mean this --> >> http://www.hellopro.fr/images/**produit-2/9/3/8/serre-cables-**261839.jpg

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread George Bakos
Key features required: Running an OS that can be patched/updated by someone other than the machine vendor Deployment in a screened subnet, not trusted by the rest of the administrative net (^^I've run into NT4.0 on a vending machine in a physical DMZ!) RFC 2324 implementation g On Fri, 17 Feb

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jeff Kell
On 2/17/2012 6:32 PM, Aled Morris wrote: > Though wax string is nicer. > http://www.repsole.com/ProductGroup.asp?PGID=254 Or in less static environments, velcro ties, e.g., http://www.cabletiesandmore.com/velcro.php Jeff

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Randy Bush
> Do you guys ride your bike to the colo and show up in shorts and a > t-shirt? Who goes to the colo without things like their laptop? fools who are willing to type passphrases on others' laptops? randy

Re: WW: Colo Vending Machine

2012-02-17 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - > From: "Aled Morris" > On 17 February 2012 18:43, Eric Tykwinski > wrote: > > > +1 for GBICs, SFPs > You'll need to be carrying a lot of loose change then :-) In fact, vending machines with builtin card readers and radio credit card validation are stock items the

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