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On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
If you have any questions or concerns please let me know.
The new posts do not have list (un)subscribe information in the headers.
--
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.pp.se
> Thankfully, the current test has been a success.
Including stopping non-members from posting to the list, and other anti-spam?
I've got a sudden influx this morning of spam addressed to nanog@nanog.org :(
Regards,
Tim.
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:50:38 +0100 (BST)
Tim Franklin wrote:
> > Thankfully, the current test has been a success.
>
> Including stopping non-members from posting to the list, and other
> anti-spam?
>
> I've got a sudden influx this morning of spam addressed to
> nanog@nanog.org :(
>
Ditto. G
> If you have any questions or concerns please let me know.
we haz spam!
randy
+1
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:32 AM, William Pitcock
wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:50:38 +0100 (BST)
> Tim Franklin wrote:
>
>> > Thankfully, the current test has been a success.
>>
>> Including stopping non-members from posting to the list, and other
>> anti-spam?
>>
>> I've got a sudden influ
And adding to it as well
+7
Kind Regards
Chris Barlow BSc. MBCS
Information Technology Manager
TICS (Global) Ltd, Oxford House
Sixth Avenue, Robin Hood Airport
Doncaster DN9 3GG
Tel +44 (0)1302 623074
Fax +44 (0)1302 623075
Mob +44(0)7909 520445
This message is for the intended reci
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Tim Franklin wrote:
>> Thankfully, the current test has been a success.
>
> Including stopping non-members from posting to the list, and other anti-spam?
>
> I've got a sudden influx this morning of spam addressed to nanog@nanog.org :(
>
> Regards,
> Tim.
>
Same h
Hello All:
We're back on the old configuration for now. I will send an update later
this afternoon once I speak with AMS about the issues we experienced over
night.
Regards,
Mike
That's the second spam received on nanog so far.
First a chinese voip vendor who probably wont gain any customers, the
second a nigerian westernunion scam
--
Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
If you have any questions or concerns please let me know.
The new posts do not have list (un)subscribe information in the headers.
This took a very long time to get delivered (2h20 minutes)
Just want to re-confirm. I've got only 4 in my spam. Is it google spam who
is not putting it in SPAM folder?
Regards,
Aftab A. Siddiqui
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:32 PM, William Pitcock
wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:50:38 +0100 (BST)
> Tim Franklin wrote:
>
> > > Thankfully, the current test
Hi
Also seeing a gross amount of spam from list
and my "digest" setting has been lost apparently.
Sigh
C
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
If you have any questions or concerns please let me know.
The new posts do not have list (un)subscribe information in the headers.
Also, the headers now no longer include the origin of mess
> On Tue, 12 Jul 2011, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
>
> > If you have any questions or concerns please let me know.
>
> The new posts do not have list (un)subscribe information in the headers.
I'll offer an evenhanded comment in that it's frustrating that the
headers used have changed, since
We're aware of the spam problem and have our top people working on it.
Reports of other lingering issues from the change would be appreciated, though.
Thanks,
Steve
On Jul 12, 2011, at 5:03 AM, jim deleskie wrote:
> +1
>
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:32 AM, William Pitcock
> wrote:
>> On Tu
I am fairly sure that the fake "Western Union" message and various other
spams that are dripping through are from real subscribers...
Also, as somebody decided to drop mailman and replace it by 'bulk_mailer
v1.13' maybe one should start fixing that software also to add the
List-* headers aka RF236
On 2011-07-12 07:19, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
> If you have any questions or concerns please let me know.
I miss proper List-Id headers for identifying and filtering
the list easily.
I might have missed some discussion; but why are we moving
away from mailman, and what software is in the
New location means we now get spam on Nanog? Could we go back to the
old place?
On 2011-07-12 07:19, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
> If you have any questions or concerns please let me know.
I miss proper List-Id headers for identifying and filtering
the list easily.
I might have missed some discussion; but why are we moving
away from mailman, and what software is in the
- Original Message -
> The new posts do not have list (un)subscribe information in the
> headers.
Also, a statement would be nice as to what header definitely *will* be in place
that we can filter on. At the moment, I'm assuming 'List-ID', but I'm not sure
if that header or its conten
On 07/12/11 03:21, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
The new posts do not have list (un)subscribe information in the headers.
Also, subscriptions that were set to no mail delivery are now delivering
mail. Is this expected?
Grant. . . .
Sorry about the lack of details.
I'm looking for a Myspace contact, We're an ISP (AS20394) and all of our users
are getting a 302 redirect to google after contacting a myspace server. If
there is an appropriate contact on this list, or someone who can forward this
to such a contact, it would
On 2011-07-12 15:59 , Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> We're back on the old configuration for now. I will send an update later
> this afternoon once I speak with AMS about the issues we experienced over
> night.
What is the reason for dropping mailman btw?
The IETF, which is a
On 7/12/2011 6:59 AM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
Hello All:
We're back on the old configuration for now. I will send an update later
this afternoon once I speak with AMS about the issues we experienced over
night.
Please explain WHY we can't just stay on Mailman? I know you explained
i
Steve,
I'm seeing the following issues, also as reported by others:
* No RFC 2369 headers means a fun time filtering and no unsubscribe info (maybe
that one is on purpose? :) I kid!)
* The mailing list is stripping out all Received: headers from prior to the
message hitting the listserver
* For
On Jul 12, 2011, at 00:19 , Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
> Mailman is shut down on s0.nanog.org and mail is being routed directly to
> mail.amsl.com where it is being processed by our new list (etc.) system.
Will the list archives migrate? What about future list archives?
Thanks
G
jer...@unfix.org (Jeroen Massar) wrote:
> I am fairly sure that the fake "Western Union" message and various other
> spams that are dripping through are from real subscribers...
Err...
what I find most interesting is that I have received no spam via this list
today. I've checked my spamfilters' g
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 1:19 AM, Michael K. Smith - Adhost
wrote:
> Thankfully, the current test has been a success. We are going to stay in
Hooray for testing in production.
-cjp
> New location means we now get spam on Nanog?
no extra charge :)
i have lived through maintaing decades of mailing lists and do not envy
the nanog mailing list crew and glen over at amsl.
thanks for the hard work, folk.
randy
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:45 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> New location means we now get spam on Nanog?
>
> no extra charge :)
>
> i have lived through maintaing decades of mailing lists and do not envy
> the nanog mailing list crew and glen over at amsl.
>
> thanks for the hard work, folk.
>
Let's w
>> Thankfully, the current test has been a success. We are going to
>> stay in
> Hooray for testing in production.
we are not dealing with stupid or inexperienced people here. i assume
they tested.
but, like our beloved vendors, they also have a hard time reproducing
the real network in the lab
>> thanks for the hard work, folk.
> Let's work harder
thanks for volunteering. when will you be flying out to the bay?
randy
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:00 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> thanks for the hard work, folk.
>> Let's work harder
>
> thanks for volunteering. when will you be flying out to the bay?
>
I already live in The Bay Area. Is there an 'revert' button?
- ferg
--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
Engineerin
I received no spam, and had I received 2 pieces, it may have been slightly
irritating.
What is irritating is the sheer number of people complaining about it. Can
we stop please? I think they get it.
-=Tom
On Tue, 12 Jul 2011 09:58:42 -0500, Paul Ferguson
wrote:
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:59 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> Thankfully, the current test has been a success. We are going to
>>> stay in
>> Hooray for testing in production.
>
> we are not dealing with stupid or inexperienced people here. i assume
> they tested.
>
> but, like our beloved vendors, th
Cc: na...@nanog.org.r-bonomi.com
In-Reply-To: <1be304a1-0da0-4558-83ad-0e4f08f81...@twincreeks.net>
> Subject: Re: NANOG List Update - Moving Forward
> From: Steve Feldman
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 07:00:51 -0700
>
> We're aware of the spam problem and have our top people working on it.
>
> Repor
On 7/12/2011 10:00 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
thanks for the hard work, folk.
Let's work harder
thanks for volunteering. when will you be flying out to the bay?
randy
I'm with you Randy, I'm disappointed with the complaints I see here.
People don't seem to show much appreciation.
Jason
AMSL has a number of interesting operational choices in its handling of email.
Lets see if they are willing to take the email from a NANOG supporter
(fiscally).
/bill
Leo,
Maybe we can fix this by:
a) bringing together larger groups of clueful operators in the IETF
b) deciding which issues interest them
c) showing up and being vocal as a group in protocol developing working groups
To some degree, we already do this in the IETF OPS area, but judging by your
c
In a message written on Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:28:58AM -0400, Ronald Bonica
wrote:
> Maybe we can fix this by:
>
> a) bringing together larger groups of clueful operators in the IETF
> b) deciding which issues interest them
> c) showing up and being vocal as a group in protocol developing workin
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote:
> Leo,
>
> Maybe we can fix this by:
>
> a) bringing together larger groups of clueful operators in the IETF
> b) deciding which issues interest them
> c) showing up and being vocal as a group in protocol developing working groups
>
> To some d
On Jul 12, 2011, at 11:02 AM, Thomas Donnelly wrote:
> I received no spam, and had I received 2 pieces, it may have been slightly
> irritating.
>
> What is irritating is the sheer number of people complaining about it. Can we
> stop please? I think they get it.
>
> -=Tom
>
Tom, you are one
As far as I can tell me neither. I feel so left out :(
Ryan Pavely
Director Research And Development
Net Access Corporation
http://www.nac.net/
On 7/12/2011 10:43 AM, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
jer...@unfix.org (Jeroen Massar) wrote:
I am fairly sure that the fake "Western Union" mess
I use a VPN from Beijing, where I reside. It's pretty common for myspace
to blacklist any IP addresses that they believe belong to crawlers,
linkbots, VPN services, etc. This appears to be an automated process.
I've never had luck getting any of my VPN IPs unblocked.
Good luck getting in touch
> Also, where is the reply to header?
still in the garbage, where it belongs
On 7/12/11 9:47 AM, Ryan Pavely wrote:
As far as I can tell me neither. I feel so left out :(
You probably don't have nanog@nanog.org and its associated mail servers
whitelisted in spamassassin/filtering/etc. In an effort to avoid
bouncing list mail, I put them in a while back. Unfortuna
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
> In a message written on Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:28:58AM -0400, Ronald Bonica
> wrote:
>> Maybe we can fix this by:
>>
>> a) bringing together larger groups of clueful operators in the IETF
>> b) deciding which issues interest them
>> c) showi
I finally made contact using the information at
http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/NOC11562-ARIN.html . We were blocked
for spamming (but there seemed to be some confusion, as we have
69.10.192.0/19, and they asked if we had 69.10.0.0/16. Makes me wonder
if they lookup the RIR allocated blocks b
On 10 Jul 2011, at 21:22, Owen DeLong wrote:
> On Jul 10, 2011, at 12:23 PM, William Herrin wrote:
>
>> Consider, for example, RFC 3484. That's the one that determines how an
>> IPv6 capable host selects which of a group of candidate IPv4 and IPv6
>> addresses for a particular host name gets pri
Could someone involved in ep.net contact me off list in regard to a DNS issue.
Usual contact methods have failed to date.
Thanks
Chris
---
Chris Griffin cgrif...@ufl.edu
Sr. Network Engineer - CCNP Phone: (352) 273-1051
CNS - Network Services
- Original Message -
> From: "Ben Carleton"
> * The mailing list is stripping out all Received: headers from prior
> to the message hitting the listserver
You're the third person to report that, but *I* am seeing incoming Received
headers in my messages here -- yours, for example, has th
- Original Message -
> From: "Gerry Boudreaux"
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 00:19 , Michael K. Smith - Adhost wrote:
> > Mailman is shut down on s0.nanog.org and mail is being routed directly to
> > mail.amsl.com where it is being processed by our new list (etc.) system.
>
> Will the list archi
Its great to see how quick a response we are getting, they have their top
people working on it??? Perhaps my 14 year old son should apply for a job as
one the trainers for the so called "experts" on this.
Ralph
-Original Message-
From: Robert Bonomi [mailto:bon...@mail.r-bonomi.com]
- Original Message -
> From: "Randy Bush"
> >> thanks for the hard work, folk.
> > Let's work harder
>
> thanks for volunteering. when will you be flying out to the bay?
I suspect, Randy, that Ferg *knows* how to use ssh.
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth Baylink
- Original Message -
> From: "Randy Bush"
> > Also, where is the reply to header?
>
> still in the garbage, where it belongs
NANOG, being a traditional, (semi-)public, technical mailing list, has never
had a Reply-to header, and never should. I concur with the people who assert
that ad
On 7/12/11 10:13 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "Ben Carleton"
* The mailing list is stripping out all Received: headers from prior
to the message hitting the listserver
You're the third person to report that, but *I* am seeing incoming Received
headers in my mes
Right, you should, because we are back on s0 (server zero?) and mailman. The
headers were being suppressed by the AMSL servers, which are running that
strange "bulk_mailer 1.13" software. If you inspect the headers for any of the
messages that were forwarded to us from that server (the one that
The tolerance of some of you out there is amazing. You must be PS3 users
crying because your free game network is down. Maybe we can get a
subscription service set up for you so you have something else to
complain about.
Be patient people. Maybe a little appreciation to these experts wouldn't
On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
> Looks like parts of the received like are still there, though butchered and
> mashed in (most likely in a non-RFC compliant manner) with the one added by
> 'bulk_maler v1.13' (great name for the mailer, btw, sets off my spammy sense
> someth
On 7/12/11 10:37 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
You seem to be new here.
Since you asked, no, been around alot longer then I care to remember.
bulk_mailer was something used back in the day to workaround
limitations in sendmail for those people operating majordomo (and
those using smail etc). it
> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Tue Jul 12 11:29:29
> 2011
> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 12:22:09 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Jay Ashworth
> To: NANOG
> Subject: Re: Spam?
>
> - Original Message -
> > From: "Randy Bush"
>
> > > Also, where is the reply to header?
> >
> > sti
On 2011/07/12 16:20, Grant Taylor wrote:
Also, subscriptions that were set to no mail delivery are now
delivering mail. Is this expected?
I saw duplicate messages from an account that I had disabled (while
testing NANOG volumes to a portable messaging device and forwarding to
this account) and
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:42 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
> I'll pick on LISP as an example, since many operators are at least
> aware of it. Some operators have said we need a locator and identifier
> split. Interesting feedback. The IETF has gone off and started
> playing in the sandbox, trying t
On 07/12/2011 08:43, Cameron Byrne wrote:
> Witness the latest debacle with the attempt at trying to make 6to4 historic.
>
> Various "non-practicing entities" were able to derail what network
> operators largely supported. Since the IETF failed to make progress
> operators will do other things to
> -Original Message-
> From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:42 AM
> To: Ronald Bonica
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6
> broken?)
>
[snip]
>
> But there is no roadmap in the IETF proc
Cameron,
Please stay tuned. While 6-to-4-historic is on hold, it is far from being dead.
Expect more discussion in Quebec and on the mailing list. I doubt if there will
be any final decision before Quebec.
Ron
> -Original Message-
> From
Leo Bicknell wrote:
In short, make it easy for the operators to participate at the right
time in the process. It will be better for everyone!
Unfortunately, where you want to be inserted into the process is when everybody
has
said their piece 80-dozen times and are tired and just want to get
Got in touch with them. Thanks to all those who replied.
tnx
Chris
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 12, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Chris Griffin wrote:
> Could someone involved in ep.net contact me off list in regard to a DNS
> issue. Usual contact methods have failed to date.
>
> Thanks
> Chris
> ---
> Ch
On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote:
>> Leo,
>>
>> Maybe we can fix this by:
>>
>> a) bringing together larger groups of clueful operators in the IETF
>> b) deciding which issues interest them
>> c) showing up and being vocal
Has anyone used Nessus PF (www.nessus.org) as a tool to run a self audit
preparing for a PenTest Audit?
I wanted to get your opinion on the tool and if it was useful preparing for a
PenTest Audit?
Thanks,
--
Michael Gatti
cell.949.735.5612
ekim.it...@gmail.com
(UTC-8)
On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Michael Thomas wrote:
> Leo Bicknell wrote:
> In short, make it easy for the operators to participate at the right
>> time in the process. It will be better for everyone!
>
> Unfortunately, where you want to be inserted into the process is when
> everybody has
> s
On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote:
>>> Leo,
>>>
>>> Maybe we can fix this by:
>>>
>>> a) bringing together larger groups of clueful operators in the IETF
>>> b) deci
Hi All,
We're pushing to get IPv6 deployed and working everywhere in our operation, and
I had some questions about best practices for a few things.
On your management nets (network device management nets) , what's the best
approach for addressing them? Do you use ULA? Or do you use global ad
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Mike Gatti wrote:
> Has anyone used Nessus PF (www.nessus.org) as a tool to run a self audit
> preparing for a PenTest Audit?
> I wanted to get your opinion on the tool and if it was useful preparing for a
> PenTest Audit?
Nessus is mostly used for information s
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Tom Ammon wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We're pushing to get IPv6 deployed and working everywhere in our operation,
> and I had some questions about best practices for a few things.
>
> On your management nets (network device management nets) , what's the best
> approach
On Jul 12, 2011 2:33 PM, "Tom Ammon" wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> We're pushing to get IPv6 deployed and working everywhere in our
operation, and I had some questions about best practices for a few things.
>
> On your management nets (network device management nets) , what's the best
approach for addres
On Jul 11, 2011, at 7:19 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
> Again, this is only hard to understand (or accept) if you don't know
> how your routers work.
> * why do you think there is an ARP and ND table?
> * why do you think there are policers to protect the CPU from
> excessive ARP/ND punts or traffic?
> W.R.T. to LISP, in defense of the IETF or the IRTF, i do not believe
> "the IETF" has told the world that LISP is the best fit for the
> Internet or solves any specific problem well.
>
> The IETF has never said the "Internet Architecture" is going to LISP,
> and it likely will not / cannot. My
Public IPs.
At some point you will have to manage something outside your current world or
your organization will need to merge/partner/outsource/contract/etc with
someone else's network and they might not be keen to route to your ULA space
(and might not be more trustworthy than the internet at
In message <56e0fb8f-bb53-4db0-829b-39dfbab48...@bogus.com>, Joel Jaeggli write
s:
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> >=20
> > On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
> >=20
> >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Ronald Bonica =
> wrote:
> >>> Leo,
> >>>=20
> >>>
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 11:25 AM, -Hammer- wrote:
> The tolerance of some of you out there is amazing. You must be PS3 users
> crying because your free game network is down. Maybe we can get a
PS3net users had a right to cry.. because their 'free' game network
is not really free,
and they bought
On Jul 12, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote:
Leo,
Maybe we can fix this by:
a) bringing t
On Jul 12, 2011 5:21 PM, "Randy Bush" wrote:
>
> > W.R.T. to LISP, in defense of the IETF or the IRTF, i do not believe
> > "the IETF" has told the world that LISP is the best fit for the
> > Internet or solves any specific problem well.
> >
> > The IETF has never said the "Internet Architecture"
- Original Message -
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:23 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
>
> > Looks like parts of the received like are still there, though
> > butchered and mashed in (most likely in a non-RFC compliant
> > manner) with the one added by 'bulk_maler v1.13' (great name for
> > the mail
Thank you for your patience as we moved forward with our NANOG transition.
We are excited to announce the opening of NANOG 53 registration. You will
notice a new format and the need to create a user id and password to
complete your registration. We are confident you will find the new system
very
On Jul 12, 2011 6:42 PM, "Mark Andrews" wrote:
>
>
> In message <56e0fb8f-bb53-4db0-829b-39dfbab48...@bogus.com>, Joel Jaeggli
write
> s:
> >
> > On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
> >
> > >=20
> > > On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
> > >=20
> > >> On Tue, Jul 12, 20
On Jul 12, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
>>>
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Ronald Bonica wrote:
> Le
On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Larry J. Blunk wrote:
>
> I've have some concerns with AMS based on my experience
> with the IETF mailing list. It has had ongoing issues with
> out-of-sequence delivery. Based on the Received headers, it's
> seems pretty clear the re-ordering is occurring internal
- Original Message -
>
> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Larry J. Blunk wrote:
> >
> > I've have some concerns with AMS based on my experience
> > with the IETF mailing list. It has had ongoing issues with
> > out-of-sequence delivery. Based on the Received headers, it's
> > seems prett
On Jul 12, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
>
> In message <56e0fb8f-bb53-4db0-829b-39dfbab48...@bogus.com>, Joel Jaeggli
> write
> s:
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>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
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>>> =20
>>> On Jul 12, 2011, at 8:43 AM, Cameron Byrne wrote:
>>> =20
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011
In message <9c391c3a-3535-4c47-a743-572876859...@bogus.com>, Joel Jaeggli write
s:
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> On Jul 12, 2011, at 6:41 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
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> >=20
> > In message <56e0fb8f-bb53-4db0-829b-39dfbab48...@bogus.com>, Joel =
> Jaeggli write
> > s:
> >>=20
> >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 12:53 PM, Owen DeLong w
On Jul 12, 2011, at 10:59 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
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> I didn't claim it would work with existing CPE equipment. Declaring
> 6to4 historic won't work with existing CPE equipment either.
If the hosts behind it stop using 2002::/16 addresses as a product of a
software update which seems rather m
>> i will not dispute this, not my point. but i have to respect dino and
>> the lisp fanboys (and, yes, they are all boys) for actually *doing*
>> something after 30 years of loc/id blah blah blah (as did hip). putting
>> their, well dino's, code where their mouths were and going way out on a
>>
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