> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2011 11:42 AM
> To: Ronald Bonica
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Anybody can participate in the IETF (Was: Why is IPv6
> broken?)
> 
     [snip]
> 
> But there is no roadmap in the IETF process now for LISP that says
> "We've got this 90% baked, we need to circulate a draft to the NANOG
> mailing list, request operator comments, and actively solicit operators
> to participate in the expanded test network".  We need that mechanism
> to
> tell folks "hey, it's real enough your operational feedback is now
> useful" and "come test our new idea".
> 

Leo,

We need to fix this problem. Without the feedback loop that you describe, the 
IETF will never know whether they are producing useful stuff or nonsense.

How does the following sound as a solution:

Let's say we set up an new IETF mailing list, primarily for the use of 
operators. When an operator sees a draft that might be of interest to the 
operational community, he creates a new thread on the list, copying the draft 
authors and WG chairs. (The authors and chairs can decide whether to add the WG 
to the thread). The OPS AD will consider thread contents when evaluating the 
draft.

                                                                   Ron



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