; From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net]
>> > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 2:49 PM
>> > To: Jack Carrozzo
>> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org
>> > Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
>> >
>> > I'm curious what providers have not g
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From: Jack Carrozzo [mailto:j...@crepinc.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:01 PM
To: Eric Van Tol
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
We pick up v6 from HE currently (like the rest of the world). L3 offered us
dual stack also, but they wante
10 at 9:51 AM, Eric Van Tol wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net]
> > Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 2:49 PM
> > To: Jack Carrozzo
> > Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connecti
Hello,
Just wanted to say thanks to everybody who replied and/or offered help.
I've got a few private peering offers, so I guess I'm ok now.
Thanks a lot,
Michael
On Friday 14 May 2010 11:25:10 pm Michael Ulitskiy wrote:
> Guys,
>
> I've started this thread looking for advice on available optio
> -Original Message-
> From: Jared Mauch [mailto:ja...@puck.nether.net]
> Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 2:49 PM
> To: Jack Carrozzo
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
>
> I'm curious what providers have not gotten their I
On 15 May 2010, at 04:30, Christopher Morrow
wrote:
See, done for 300$/month...
$300/month + the cost of building fossils into your network on day 1.
This cost is a whole pile more difficult to quantify than basic PoP
service capex/opex, but it's recurrent and non zero.
Nick
On 2010-05-15 05:32, Christopher Morrow wrote:
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Michael Ulitskiy wrote:
So my question still stands: is anyone aware of a reasonable tunneled ipv6
transit service (I mean aside from HE tunnel broker)? The load will be really
light. I don't expect we'll break a
On 2010/05/14 03:39 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
3) don't tunnel beyond your borders, really just don't
We have managed to achieve that fairly well. We have colocated a single
router in a provider in London with native IPv6 where we have our
primary break out. We then tunnel over IPv4 betwee
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Michael Ulitskiy wrote:
> So my question still stands: is anyone aware of a reasonable tunneled ipv6
> transit service (I mean aside from HE tunnel broker)? The load will be really
> light. I don't expect we'll break a few Mbit/s in the nearest future and when
>
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:58 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
>
> Just an observation, but I'm fairly sure that I'm not the only one who feels
> that those with rather high budgets tend to forget that not everyone has the
> luxury of a virtual blank check.
>
awesome, take an old 2800 or 2500, plug in
Guys,
I've started this thread looking for advice on available options.
There's no doubt in my mind that native connectivity is better than tunnels,
but unfortunately tunnel is the only way to get me started, 'cause my upstream
does not support ipv6 (hopefully just yet) and I have no budget for
On 5/14/10 2:36 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
Being that there's issues that leave us unable to get native
connectivity, we have a BGP tunnel thanks to HE (with a 20ms
latency from Seattle to Freemont).
You should be able to get native IPv6 in Seattle from a variety of
providers. If you're not findi
er... if I may - this whining about the evils of tunnels
rings a bit hollow, esp for those who think that a VPN is
the right thing to do.
--bill
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 08:44:53AM +1000, Karl Auer wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 14:57 -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> > Tunnels promote poo
On May 14, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>
> On May 14, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
>
>> (Sent from my Blackberry, please avoid the flames as I can't do inline
>> quoting)
>>
>>
>> Native IPv6 is a crapshoot. About the only people in the US that I've seen
>> that are no-b
On May 14, 2010, at 11:57 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
>> I said somewhere in here... wierd quoting happened.
>> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy
>> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> We're in the early stage of planning ipv6 dep
On 5/14/2010 12:44, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
>> On 5/14/2010 11:49, Jared Mauch wrote:
>>> I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6
>>> plans/networks/customer ports enabled.
>>>
>>> I know that Comcast is doing their trials no
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 14:57 -0400, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> Tunnels promote poor paths
"promote"? Tunnel topology does not (necessarily) match the underlying
topology, especially if you choose (or are forced to accept) a distant
broker. But "promote"?
> , they bring along LOTS of issues wrt PM
On May 14, 2010, at 1:36 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
On May 14, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
(Sent from my Blackberry, please avoid the flames as I can't do
inline quoting)
Native IPv6 is a crapshoot. About the only people in the US that
I've seen that are no-bullshit IPv6 native
rough IPv6, so ymmv.
Brielle
--Original Message--
From: Jared Mauch
To: Jack Carrozzo
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
Sent: May 14, 2010 12:49 PM
I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6 plans/networks/customer
ports enabled.
I know tha
> 3) don't tunnel beyond your borders, really just don't
> tunnels are bad, always.
you are understaing your case.
randy
On May 14, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:
> (Sent from my Blackberry, please avoid the flames as I can't do inline
> quoting)
>
>
> Native IPv6 is a crapshoot. About the only people in the US that I've seen
> that are no-bullshit IPv6 native ready is Hurricane Electric. NTT is
> sup
, so ymmv.
Brielle
--Original Message--
From: Jared Mauch
To: Jack Carrozzo
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
Sent: May 14, 2010 12:49 PM
I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6 plans/networks/customer
ports enabled.
I know that Comcast
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:00 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote:
> On 5/14/2010 11:49, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6
>> plans/networks/customer ports enabled.
>>
>> I know that Comcast is doing their trials now (Thanks John!) and will be
>> presenting at the up
On 5/14/2010 11:49, Jared Mauch wrote:
> I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6 plans/networks/customer
> ports enabled.
>
> I know that Comcast is doing their trials now (Thanks John!) and will be
> presenting at the upcoming NANOG about their experiences.
>
> What parts of the
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Franck Martin wrote:
> I said somewhere in here... wierd quoting happened.
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy
> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> We're in the early stage of planning ipv6 deployment -
>> learning/labbing/experimenting/etc. We've got to the p
I'm curious what providers have not gotten their IPv6 plans/networks/customer
ports enabled.
I know that Comcast is doing their trials now (Thanks John!) and will be
presenting at the upcoming NANOG about their experiences.
What parts of the big "I" Internet are not enabled or ready?
- Jared
wrote:
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Christopher Morrow"
> To: "Michael Ulitskiy"
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org
> Sent: Thursday, 13 May, 2010 6:39:28 PM
> Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
>
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy
- Original Message -
From: "Christopher Morrow"
To: "Michael Ulitskiy"
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, 13 May, 2010 6:39:28 PM
Subject: Re: ipv6 transit over tunneled connection
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy
wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We're in the early stage of planning ipv6 deployment -
> learning/labbing/experimenting/etc.
> We've got to the point when we're also planning to request initial ipv6
> allocation from ARIN.
> So I wonder what ipv6 transit opt
Occaid will generally transit you via two tunnels to their endpoints. I used
them for a year with zero issues in addition to an HE tunnel.
-Jack Carrozzo
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Michael Ulitskiy wrote:
> Hello,
>
> We're in the early stage of planning ipv6 deployment -
> learning/labbin
Hello,
We're in the early stage of planning ipv6 deployment -
learning/labbing/experimenting/etc.
We've got to the point when we're also planning to request initial ipv6
allocation from ARIN.
So I wonder what ipv6 transit options I have if my upstreams do not support
native ipv6 connectivity?
I
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