On May 14, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Brielle Bruns wrote:

> (Sent from my Blackberry, please avoid the flames as I can't do inline 
> quoting)
> 
> 
> Native IPv6 is a crapshoot.  About the only people in the US that I've seen 
> that are no-bullshit IPv6 native ready is Hurricane Electric. NTT is 
> supposedly as well but I can't speak as to where they have connectivity.

I can say that we (NTT) have been IPv6 enabled or ready at all customer ports 
since ~2003.  Anyone else who has not gotten there in the intervening years may 
have problems supporting you for your IPv4 as well :)

> Being that there's issues that leave us unable to get native connectivity, we 
> have a BGP tunnel thanks to HE (with a 20ms latency from Seattle to Freemont).

You should be able to get native IPv6 in Seattle from a variety of providers.  
If you're not finding it, you're not really looking (IMHO).

> Tunnels suck if not done correctly.  We sometimes have faster and more 
> reliable connections through IPv6, so ymmv.

The tunneled part of the "IPv6" internet fell to the wayside a long time ago, 
there are stragglers and I have even seen people try to peer over tunnels in 
2010, but anyone still adding that level of overlay (v6-over-v4) may find 
themselves in a world of hurt soon enough.

- Jared (Curious about what incumbent carrier plans are for end-user - eg 
qwest, att, vz resi)

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