Re: Spectrum residential IPv6 rDNS - thank you !

2018-10-12 Thread endre.szabo
Hi there, On 10/10/18 3:43 AM, Chris wrote: Originally I was using the pipe backend with a modified copy of "PowerDNS-Dynamic-Reverse-Backend" (https://github.com/endreszabo/PowerDNS-Dynamic-Reverse-Backend) but ended up writing my own in Perl as the backend was a bit fragile and didn't do

Re: Spectrum residential IPv6 rDNS - thank you !

2018-10-10 Thread Chris
Hi, On 9/10/2018 11:37 PM, endre.szabo@nanog-list-kitfvhs.redir.email wrote: I wonder how they generate these rDNS PTR records? I was always curious, hope someone knows. I do it for our various IPv6 (and IPv4) allocations by using PowerDNS with a remote backend. If there is no existing PTR re

Re: Spectrum residential IPv6 rDNS - thank you !

2018-10-10 Thread endre.szabo
Hey there, On 10/10/18 10:09 AM, Marco Davids via NANOG wrote: Op 10-10-18 om 00:42 schreef Brandon Applegate: I’m guessing synthesized.  There are a couple of dns servers out there that can do this.  An interesting one I just found: https://all-knowing-dns.zekjur.net Or, if you prefer DNS

Re: Spectrum residential IPv6 rDNS - thank you !

2018-10-10 Thread Marco Davids via NANOG
Op 10-10-18 om 00:42 schreef Brandon Applegate: I’m guessing synthesized. There are a couple of dns servers out there that can do this. An interesting one I just found: https://all-knowing-dns.zekjur.net Or, if you prefer DNSSEC capable alternatives, try: https://github.com/cmouse/pdns-v6

Re: Spectrum residential IPv6 rDNS - thank you !

2018-10-09 Thread Brandon Applegate
> On Oct 9, 2018, at 11:37 AM, endre.szabo@nanog-list-kitfvhs.redir.email wrote: > > Hey there, > > On 10/9/18 4:51 PM, Brandon Applegate wrote: >> Wanted to give a shoutout / thank you to Spectrum for this. Just noticed >> today my home PD now has dynamic/synthesized rDNS for IPv6. > > I wo

Re: Spectrum residential IPv6 rDNS - thank you !

2018-10-09 Thread endre.szabo
Hey there, On 10/9/18 4:51 PM, Brandon Applegate wrote: Wanted to give a shoutout / thank you to Spectrum for this. Just noticed today my home PD now has dynamic/synthesized rDNS for IPv6. I wonder how they generate these rDNS PTR records? I was always curious, hope someone knows. -- End

Spectrum residential IPv6 rDNS - thank you !

2018-10-09 Thread Brandon Applegate
Wanted to give a shoutout / thank you to Spectrum for this. Just noticed today my home PD now has dynamic/synthesized rDNS for IPv6. Some of my dumb little scripts outputs are a bit happier today ! :) -- Brandon Applegate - CCIE 10273 PGP Key fingerprint: 0641 D285 A36F 533A 73E5 2541 4920 533

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-03 Thread Crist Clark
>>> On 11/3/2010 at 1:10 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > On Tuesday, November 02, 2010 02:21:14 pm Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: >> getting rid of bind has various other advantages, such as no longer >> needing tcp to transfer "zone files" (Retarded concept to say the least) >> so there are no more "tcp is

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-03 Thread Lamar Owen
On Tuesday, November 02, 2010 02:21:14 pm Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: > getting rid of bind has various other advantages, such as no longer > needing tcp to transfer "zone files" (Retarded concept to say the least) > so there are no more "tcp issues" related to anycasting your authorative > dns se

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 02 Nov 2010 18:21:14 -, Sven Olaf Kamphuis said: > getting rid of bind has various other advantages, such as no longer > needing tcp to transfer "zone files" (Retarded concept to say the least) > so there are no more "tcp issues" related to anycasting your authorative > dns servers,

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-02 Thread Curtis Maurand
I'll note that most of the behavior you describe here is deeply rooted in the RFC's. The concepts of zone transfers for instance are not unique to BIND, but rather in the definition of how interoperable DNS is supposed to work. That said, there is clearly room for improvement, and in fact ther

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-02 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Tue, Nov 02, 2010 at 06:21:14PM +, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: > the way bind handles things.. isn't really suitable for bigger ipv4 and it > definately isn't suitable for ANY ipv6 network, and the whole thing with > files being transferred.. well.. ahem... "primitive".

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-02 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
Saying that, I quite like the idea of dynamically providing a response to both and PTR queries but question how safe it would be to cache these without a robust resource-managing implementation... quite safe.. its not dns caching... in fact, we'd put the ttl on 1 second or something, but r

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-02 Thread David Freedman
Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote: > would be interested in anybody other > than IRC operators who feel they still require forward and reverse DNS > to match, > > SMTP, email-2 (don't ask ;), and preferably (though not required) > anything that has to do with /bin/login on *nix systems (as it shows the > r

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-02 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
would be interested in anybody other than IRC operators who feel they still require forward and reverse DNS to match, SMTP, email-2 (don't ask ;), and preferably (though not required) anything that has to do with /bin/login on *nix systems (as it shows the reverse dns host name in who and w and

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-02 Thread Sven Olaf Kamphuis
I'm not sure there's consensus about whether forward and reverse ought to match (how strong a "should" is that?). that's pretty much of a "should" for IRC, and various anti-spam crap on SMTP, furthermore, the entries should be (to a certain extend) unique (hosted-by.provider.com resolving to ev

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-02 Thread David Freedman
Lee Howard wrote: > Since there's a thread here, I'll mention rDNS for residential users. > > I'm not sure there's consensus about whether forward and reverse ought > to match (how strong a "should" is that?). I know you can't populate > every potential record in a reverse zone, as in IPv4. You

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Mark Andrews
an Aart = > wrote: > >>> I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The following = > tool > >>> proved to be quite helpful: > >>> http://www.fpsn.net/?pg=3Dtools&tool=3Dipv6-inaddr > >>> Just in case anyone else would run i

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 1, 2010, at 4:40 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > In message , > Mich > el de Nostredame writes: >> On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: >>> I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The following tool >>> proved to be quite

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 1, 2010, at 11:20 AM, Michel de Nostredame wrote: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: >> I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The following tool >> proved to be quite helpful: >> http://www.fpsn.net/?pg=tools&tool=ipv6-inad

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Mich el de Nostredame writes: > On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > > I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The following tool > > proved to be quite helpful: > > http://www.fpsn.net/?pg=tools&tool=ipv6-inaddr > >

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Jeroen van Aart
Gary E. Miller wrote: See also sipcalc. Thanks, I wasn't aware of the various commandline tools available yet. Except the dig option to convert IPv6 rDNS. But the tool I mentioned also creates a whole zone file for you based on what you entered, which I then used to correct the zone f

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Michel de Nostredame
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The following tool > proved to be quite helpful: > http://www.fpsn.net/?pg=tools&tool=ipv6-inaddr > Just in case anyone else would run into similar probl

RE: IPv6 rDNS

2010-11-01 Thread Lee Howard
e > -Original Message- > From: Jeroen van Aart [mailto:jer...@mompl.net] > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 9:07 PM > To: NANOG list > Subject: IPv6 rDNS > > I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The following tool > proved to be quite helpful: > http://ww

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-10-29 Thread Will Orton
700 > From: Jeroen van Aart > To: NANOG list > Subject: IPv6 rDNS > > I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The following tool > proved to be quite helpful: > http://www.fpsn.net/?pg=tools&tool=ipv6-inaddr > > Just in case anyone else would run in

RE: IPv6 rDNS

2010-10-29 Thread George Bonser
> > But Randy, everyone has a web browser installed. Not everyone has perl, > python, > cc, or such installed. > > :-) apt-get install ipv6calc ipv6calc -q --out revnibbles.arpa 2001::1 1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1.0.0.2.ip6.arpa . :-)

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-10-29 Thread Randy Bush
> But Randy, everyone has a web browser installed. Not everyone has > perl, python, cc, or such installed. and i thought this was an operators' list. silly me. randy, who did see the smiley

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-10-29 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Sat, Oct 30, 2010, Randy Bush wrote: > > http://www.fpsn.net/?pg=tools&tool=ipv6-inaddr > > windows mentality, wrap it all in a complex gui that also washes your > car. > > use simple hack that just takes an ipv6 address and makes the bleeping > reversed dotted to death lhs of the ptr record.

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-10-29 Thread Randy Bush
> http://www.fpsn.net/?pg=tools&tool=ipv6-inaddr windows mentality, wrap it all in a complex gui that also washes your car. use simple hack that just takes an ipv6 address and makes the bleeping reversed dotted to death lhs of the ptr record. rmac.psg.com:/Users/randy> host 2001:418:1::61 Host

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-10-29 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <4ccb6f98.6090...@mompl.net>, Jeroen van Aart writes: > I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The following tool > proved to be quite helpful: > http://www.fpsn.net/?pg=tools&tool=ipv6-inaddr > > Just in case anyone else would run into simi

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-10-29 Thread Gary E. Miller
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yo Jeroen! On Fri, 29 Oct 2010, Jeroen van Aart wrote: > I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. See also sipcalc. # sipcalc -r 2001:470:b:4a:230:48ff:fe35:d1bc - -[ipv6 : 2001:470:b:4a:230:48ff:fe35:d1bc] - 0 [IPV6 DNS] Reverse

Re: IPv6 rDNS

2010-10-29 Thread Franck Martin
Yes, you need to be able to spell Hex backward ;) - Original Message - From: "Jeroen van Aart" To: "NANOG list" Sent: Saturday, 30 October, 2010 2:06:32 PM Subject: IPv6 rDNS I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The following tool proved to be

IPv6 rDNS

2010-10-29 Thread Jeroen van Aart
I battled for a few hours getting IPv6 rDNS to work. The following tool proved to be quite helpful: http://www.fpsn.net/?pg=tools&tool=ipv6-inaddr Just in case anyone else would run into similar problems. It's not as straightforward as IPv4 rDNS. Greetings, Jeroen -- http://gol

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-28 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/28/2010 02:29, Tony Finch wrote: > Bloom filters work that way. I charge the time to order, index, hash the key space so that can work. I don't know what a fair distribution of that cost would be. > Tony (on his iPod). Larry on his.oh, who cares? -- Somebody should have said: A demo

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-28 Thread Jack Bates
David Conrad wrote: While better than 1 septillion zone entries, you still have the problem of how to let the clients add the records. DDNS is one approach. Manual intervention (e.g., as part of a customer provisioning system) is another as long as you don't use privacy extensions. Realtim

Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-28 Thread Stefan Schmidt
thing similar would be useful in this IPv6 rDNS scenario too. Does anyone of you know if there's any chance to direct a zone to a script instead of to a file? Yes, just look at what i just posted and at http://doc.powerdns.com/pipebackend-dynamic-resolution.html http://doc.powerdns.com/backends-d

Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-28 Thread David Pérez
Hi! In some internal DNS applications, I've missed the so useful pipe feature of the sendmail alias (user: | /script), I mean, being able to forward a DNS request to a script that returns the resolution response. Maybe something similar would be useful in this IPv6 rDNS scenario too. Does a

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-28 Thread Stefan Schmidt
On 28.04.2010, at 09:31, Mark Scholten wrote: Hmm. A macro expansion for a /48 would mean 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 leaves. An interesting stress test for name servers... :-). With LUA scripting and PowerDNS you could create a reverse DNS/ forward DNS based on the input and match it

RE: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-28 Thread Mark Scholten
> -Original Message- > From: David Conrad [mailto:d...@virtualized.org] > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 3:01 AM > To: Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold > Cc: nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done? > > On Apr 27,

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-28 Thread Tony Finch
Bloom filters work that way. Tony (on his iPod). -- f.anthony.n.finchhttp://dotat.at/ On 28 Apr 2010, at 02:19, Larry Sheldon wrote: (A human brain can respond "I don't know that" without an inventory of everything it does know.) (That may be to only truly unique thing about humans. An

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread James Hess
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold wrote: > On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Richard Barnes wrote: >...However, I was under the impression that having both forward and reverse >for >dynamic IPs was a best practice.. Perhaps we should back up a bit and delete 'how' from the s

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Felipe Zanchet Grazziotin
On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 11:13 PM, David Conrad wrote: > On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:46 PM, John Levine wrote: > > > For spoof resistance, how about doing a forward lookup on the > > purported name and only installing it if it gets a matching > > record? > > Sounds like a reasonable DDNS filtering

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread David Conrad
On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:46 PM, John Levine wrote: >> Hmm. A macro expansion for a /48 would mean >> 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 leaves. An interesting stress test >> for name servers... :-). > My inclination would be to use a wildcard that returns something like > not-in-service.some-network.n

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread John Levine
>Hmm. A macro expansion for a /48 would mean >1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 leaves. An interesting stress test >for name servers... :-). My inclination would be to use a wildcard that returns something like not-in-service.some-network.net, and let the clients add records for the addresses they

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Steve Bertrand
On 2010.04.27 21:00, David Conrad wrote: > On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold wrote: >> On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: >>> Windows will just populate the reverse zone as needed, if you let >>> it, using dynamic update. If you have properly deployed BCP 39 >>>

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/27/2010 20:28, Larry Sheldon wrote: > On 4/27/2010 20:25, Richard Barnes wrote: >> >> >> >> Interesting theory, but seems kind of wrong. Wouldn't the time to >> look up or fail be tied to the complexity of how the key space is >> populated? In any case, it seems like the time to succeed or

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <268ebce2-9d47-488e-8223-29b5a6323...@godshell.com>, "Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold" wri tes: > On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > > Windows will just populate the reverse zone as needed, if you let > > it, using dynamic update. If you have properly deployed BCP 39 > > an

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/27/2010 20:25, Richard Barnes wrote: > > > > Interesting theory, but seems kind of wrong. Wouldn't the time to > look up or fail be tied to the complexity of how the key space is > populated? In any case, it seems like the time to succeed or fail > will usually be about the same, since yo

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Richard Barnes
Presumably, if you've already got a script that's provisioning reverse results, you could amend it to add name constraints. No idea if this is possible with current DynDNS software, though. --Richard On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold wrote: > On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:00

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread David Conrad
On Apr 27, 2010, at 6:10 PM, Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold wrote: > How about a programmatic expansion? Only create the necessary record when > asked for it. The downsides I know of (off the top of my head) with dynamic synthesis are (a) challenges if you want DNSSEC and (b) increased susceptibili

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Richard Barnes
Interesting theory, but seems kind of wrong. Wouldn't the time to look up or fail be tied to the complexity of how the key space is populated? In any case, it seems like the time to succeed or fail will usually be about the same, since you'll try to access the value for a key and either find s

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 4/27/2010 19:50, Richard Barnes wrote: > Naïve question: If you used macro expansion, wouldn't you end up > providing responses for a lot of addresses that aren't in use? Maybe > that's not a problem? If you get a request, you will have to respond in any case. I have a theory about data-base

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
On Apr 27, 2010, at 9:00 PM, David Conrad wrote: > Hmm. A macro expansion for a /48 would mean 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 > leaves. An interesting stress test for name servers... :-). Um.. sure. :) Your computer can't handle that? How about a programmatic expansion? Only create the nec

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread David Conrad
On Apr 27, 2010, at 5:47 PM, Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold wrote: > On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: >> Windows will just populate the reverse zone as needed, if you let >> it, using dynamic update. If you have properly deployed BCP 39 >> and have anti-spoofing ingres filtering then y

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:50 PM, Richard Barnes wrote: > Naïve question: If you used macro expansion, wouldn't you end up > providing responses for a lot of addresses that aren't in use? Maybe > that's not a problem? Presumably the op would only use macros where needed, ie dynamically assigned addre

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Richard Barnes
Naïve question: If you used macro expansion, wouldn't you end up providing responses for a lot of addresses that aren't in use? Maybe that's not a problem? On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold wrote: > On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: >> Windows will just

Re: [Nanog] Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Jason 'XenoPhage' Frisvold
On Apr 27, 2010, at 8:42 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: > Windows will just populate the reverse zone as needed, if you let > it, using dynamic update. If you have properly deployed BCP 39 > and have anti-spoofing ingres filtering then you can just let any > address from the /48 add/remove PTR records.

Re: IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Mark Andrews
In message , Felipe Zanchet Grazziotin writes: > Hi list, > > this is my first post, so be nice. :) > > Wondering about IPv6 deployments to end-users, imagine we deploy a full /48 > address to each client. > How is the reverse DNS for each possible IPv6 address going to be? > > Nowadays I'm us

IPv6 rDNS - how will it be done?

2010-04-27 Thread Felipe Zanchet Grazziotin
Hi list, this is my first post, so be nice. :) Wondering about IPv6 deployments to end-users, imagine we deploy a full /48 address to each client. How is the reverse DNS for each possible IPv6 address going to be? Nowadays I'm used to do IPv4 reverse using old Class C, which has (up to) 256 entr