Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-13 Thread Bjørn Mork
Jeff Tantsura writes: > Looking at the fix, Donald has only removed IPV4_CLASS_DE(a) > uint32_t)(a)) & 0xe000) == 0xe000) > validation but kept INADDR_ANY. > I’ll bring up RFC6286 to him I believe it is implementing the RFC6286 requirements. INADDR_ANY is ((in_addr_t) 0x),

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-13 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Looking at the fix, Donald has only removed IPV4_CLASS_DE(a) uint32_t)(a)) & 0xe000) == 0xe000) validation but kept INADDR_ANY. I’ll bring up RFC6286 to him Cheers, Jeff > On Sep 12, 2022, at 13:41, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Jeff Tantsura writes: > >> Indeed, someone was recently comp

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-12 Thread Bjørn Mork
Jeff Tantsura writes: > Indeed, someone was recently complaining that FRR is unhappy with a > peer with router-id from class E range… This made me curious enough to dig up the fix. If anyone else is interested: https://github.com/FRRouting/frr/commit/b5c2113e47f846d0c48fb4ef63e29bf96bd2fbe2 B

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-12 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Indeed, someone was recently complaining that FRR is unhappy with a peer with router-id from class E range… Cheers, Jeff > On Sep 9, 2022, at 09:30, Saku Ytti wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Sept 2022 at 09:31, Crist Clark wrote: > >> As I said in the original email, I realize router IDs just need to

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-11 Thread guardian . wheel9069
eration and not require outside things like an IPAM to track it. -binarp On Thu, Sep 8, 2022, at 1:38 AM, Crist Clark wrote: > During some IPv6 numbering discussions at work today, someone had a question > that I hadn't really considered before. How to choose 32-bit router IDs for >

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-09 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 9 Sept 2022 at 09:31, Crist Clark wrote: > As I said in the original email, I realize router IDs just need to be > unique in > an AS. We could have done random ones with IPv4, but using a well chosen In some far future this will be true. We meet eBGP speakers across the world, and not ev

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread Crist Clark
and the suggestion here to build the device location into the ID, we're generally not really talking about one ID per physical router here. I'm really talking about IPv6-only VRFs. The router (L3 switch, firewall, or whatever it may be) may have a mix of IPv6-only, IPv4-only, and dual-

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread Jon Lewis
On Wed, 7 Sep 2022, Crist Clark wrote: During some IPv6 numbering discussions at work today, someone had a question that I hadn't really considered before. How to choose 32-bit router IDs for IPv6-only routers. Quick background. We have a requirement to convert a significant portion o

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread Randy Bush
enke and jenny yuan cleaned this up in 6286 randy

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread heasley
Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 10:18:13AM -0700, Randy Bush: > > A question Dorian and I discussed but never answered is, how are open > > collisions handled if two speakers, presumably an external AS, happen > > to have the RID? > > the uniqueness is supposed to be on the tuple {AS,RID} I thought that was

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread Randy Bush
> A question Dorian and I discussed but never answered is, how are open > collisions handled if two speakers, presumably an external AS, happen > to have the RID? the uniqueness is supposed to be on the tuple {AS,RID} so an RID 'collision' with a foreign AS should not be possible randy

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread heasley
Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 08:13:33AM -0700, Randy Bush: > > During some IPv6 numbering discussions at work today, someone had a > > question that I hadn't really considered before. How to choose 32-bit > > router IDs for IPv6-only routers. > > arbitrary 32 bit number un

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread Tom Beecher
> > Is there really such as thing as pure IPV6 only? > Yup. On Thu, Sep 8, 2022 at 11:32 AM Paul Amaral via NANOG wrote: > Is there really such as thing as pure IPV6 only? I don’t think you will be > able to run IPV6 for transport without the router locally knowing how to &g

RE: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread Paul Amaral via NANOG
Is there really such as thing as pure IPV6 only? I don’t think you will be able to run IPV6 for transport without the router locally knowing how to handle IPV4, at least not right now as there’s a lot of legacy code. Usually IPV6 is enabled longer after IPV4 has been running. With that said

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
rom a failover system perspective... BOL > On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:13, Randy Bush wrote: > >> During some IPv6 numbering discussions at work today, someone had a >> question that I hadn't really considered before. How to choose 32-bit >> router IDs for IPv6-only rou

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread Randy Bush
> During some IPv6 numbering discussions at work today, someone had a > question that I hadn't really considered before. How to choose 32-bit > router IDs for IPv6-only routers. arbitrary 32 bit number unique in the autonomous system. even in an ipv4 world it does not nee

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 10:22, Bjørn Mork wrote: > I'm not used to punching anything, so I probably have too simple a view > of the world. > > But I still don't understand how this changes the ID allocation scheme, > which is how I understood the question. I assume the punched value was > based o

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread Bjørn Mork
Saku Ytti writes: > On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 10:01, Bjørn Mork wrote: > >> Why would you do it differently than for dual-stack routers, except that >> you skip the step where you configure the ID as a loopback address? > > Because you may not have an option, if you&#x

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-08 Thread Saku Ytti
On Thu, 8 Sept 2022 at 10:01, Bjørn Mork wrote: > Why would you do it differently than for dual-stack routers, except that > you skip the step where you configure the ID as a loopback address? Because you may not have an option, if you're IPv6 only, vendors (e.g. junos) may expect y

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-07 Thread Bjørn Mork
Crist Clark writes: > During some IPv6 numbering discussions at work today, someone had a > question that I hadn't really considered before. How to choose 32-bit > router IDs for IPv6-only routers. Why would you do it differently than for dual-stack routers, except that you skip

Re: Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-07 Thread Saku Ytti
Hey, > Well, now there is no IPv4. But BGP, OSPFv3, and other routing protocols > still use 32-bit router IDs for IPv6. On the one hand, there are plenty of > 32-bit numbers to use. Generally speaking, router IDs just need to be unique > inside of an AS to do their job, but (a) for humans or au

Router ID on IPv6-Only

2022-09-07 Thread Crist Clark
During some IPv6 numbering discussions at work today, someone had a question that I hadn't really considered before. How to choose 32-bit router IDs for IPv6-only routers. Quick background. We have a requirement to convert a significant portion of our network to IPv6-only over the next few

Re: Hardware & Software IPv6 Only

2022-06-29 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Jun 29, 2022 at 10:00 AM Alejandro Acosta wrote: >Sorry for the noise. Hopefully this is a good place to ask. > >Are there any IPv6 Only hardware you are aware of?. And IPv6 Only > software too? > >If so and you don't mind you can contact me off-list

Hardware & Software IPv6 Only

2022-06-29 Thread Alejandro Acosta
Hello,   Sorry for the noise. Hopefully this is a good place to ask.   Are there any IPv6 Only hardware you are aware of?. And IPv6 Only software too?   If so and you don't mind you can contact me off-list. Thanks, Alejandro,

Is it time to bring back the IPv6-only hour (well, half hour)?

2022-04-04 Thread Matthew Petach via NANOG
On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 2:01 PM Mark Andrews wrote: > You have to try running IPv6 only occasionally to weed out the > dependencies. You can do this on a per node basis. Just turn off the IPv4 > interface and see how you run. I do this periodically on my Mac and disable > IPv4

Re: IPv6 Only

2022-04-04 Thread Jacques Latour
de the following milestones and actions: * At least 20% of IP-enabled assets on Federal networks are operating in IPv6-only environments by the end of FY 2023; * At least 50% of IP-enabled assets on Federal networks are operating in IPv6-only environments by the end of FY 2024; * At least

Re: IPv6 Only

2022-04-01 Thread Masataka Ohta
Mark Andrews wrote: Write down what you find is broken and report it. According to your logic, it is a lot more constructive to write down what we find are broken with IPv6 and report it to IETF, which will make IETF obsolete IPv6. Masataka Ohta

Re: IPv6 Only - was Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported re: 202203261833.AYC

2022-03-31 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
SOA ns-130.awsdns-16.com. awsdns-hostmaster.amazon.com. 1 7200 900 1209600 86400 ;; Query time: 0 msec ;; SERVER: 192.159.10.2#53(192.159.10.2) ;; WHEN: Thu Mar 31 17:27:31 PDT 2022 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 142 So… As I said… Amazon. Owen > On Mar 31, 2022, at 16:00 , Andras Toth

Re: IPv6 Only - was Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported re: 202203261833.AYC

2022-03-31 Thread Andras Toth
https://aws.amazon.com/blogs/networking-and-content-delivery/introducing-ipv6-only-subnets-and-ec2-instances/ > On 1 Apr 2022, at 06:44, Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > > In short: > Amazon > Alibaba > Google Cloud > > And a few other laggards that are

Re: IPv6 Only

2022-03-31 Thread Mark Andrews
You have to try running IPv6 only occasionally to weed out the dependencies. You can do this on a per node basis. Just turn off the IPv4 interface and see how you run. I do this periodically on my Mac and disable IPv4. This also makes my recursive nameserver IPv6 only as well. You then see

Re: IPv6 Only

2022-03-31 Thread Carsten Bormann
On 2022-03-31, at 20:54, Matthew Petach wrote: > > And yet, in order to "turn off the lights on IPv4", we're going to have to > root through all those dark corners of code The part that you might be missing is that those dark corners are also where the vulnerabilities hide. If a piece of sof

Re: IPv6 Only - was Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported re: 202203261833.AYC

2022-03-31 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
ill going to be dual stack > IPv4/IPv6? > When are we going to give up on IPv4? > People can run IPv4 all they want inside their networks for 1000s of years. > What will it take to be IPv6 only? > > 😊 > > From: NANOG <mailto:nanog-bounces+jacques.latour=cira...@nan

Re: IPv6 Only

2022-03-31 Thread Matthew Petach
v6, but simply because it's code that doesn't get used very often, and in dual-stack networks, it just keeps working the few times it gets exercised. The only time it would run into a problem is in a pure IPv6-only network; and how many of those really exist in the world to flag it as

Re: IPv6 Only

2022-03-31 Thread Jacques Latour
Exactly what I was asking, when and how will we collectively turn off the lights on IPv4? > -Original Message- > From: NANOG On > Behalf Of Mark Andrews > Sent: March 30, 2022 7:29 PM > To: NANOG > Subject: [EXT] Re: IPv6 Only - was Re: Let's Focus on Moving For

Re: IPv6 Only - was Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported re: 202203261833.AYC

2022-03-30 Thread Mark Andrews
en are we going to give up on IPv4? > People can run IPv4 all they want inside their networks for 1000s of years. > What will it take to be IPv6 only? > > 😊 > > From: NANOG On Behalf Of > Owen DeLong via NANOG > Sent: March 29, 2022 3:52 PM > To: Abraham Y. Chen > C

Re: IPv6 Only - was Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported re: 202203261833.AYC

2022-03-29 Thread jim deleskie
> So, in 25, 50 or 100 years from now, are we still going to be dual stack > IPv4/IPv6? > > When are we going to give up on IPv4? > > People can run IPv4 all they want inside their networks for 1000s of years. > > What will it take to be IPv6 only? > > > > 😊 >

IPv6 Only - was Re: Let's Focus on Moving Forward Re: V6 still not supported re: 202203261833.AYC

2022-03-29 Thread Jacques Latour
So, in 25, 50 or 100 years from now, are we still going to be dual stack IPv4/IPv6? When are we going to give up on IPv4? People can run IPv4 all they want inside their networks for 1000s of years. What will it take to be IPv6 only? 😊 From: NANOG On Behalf Of Owen DeLong via NANOG Sent

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-07 Thread Robert L Mathews
On 5/6/19 9:45 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > But the came I am making is to PHBs, not engineers and I am trying to > find a path of least resistance. Providing IPv6 can increase perceived reliability for customers via the Happy Eyeballs algorithm . I

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-07 Thread bzs
That's it! Put your stuff on IPv6-only and vastly improve your security footprint! -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die| b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617-STD-WRLD | 800-THE-WRLD The World: Since 1989 |

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-07 Thread William Waites
On 05/03, Jeroen Massar wrote: > > IPv6 is not a darknet, you won't find something hidden and unique there. The Dancing Kame, surely.

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-07 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2019-05-07 15:55, William Waites wrote: > On 05/03, Jeroen Massar wrote: >> >> IPv6 is not a darknet, you won't find something hidden and unique there. > > The Dancing Kame, surely. That Kame has been liberated and made available over IPv4 so long ago that the shop that was selling the stuffe

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-07 Thread Lee Howard
On 5/6/19 12:45 PM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: But the came I am making is to PHBs, not engineers and I am trying to find a path of least resistance. IPv6 is, on average, 20ms faster than IPv4. I don't know why, I just know that the evidence is diverse and compelling that it's true. https://w

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
interest to anyone, but it does make it annoying for me when I happen to be on IPv4 only as I have to perform extra steps to reach these IPv6 only resources. I also have devices in my home I can only login directly to via IPv6, as I have opted not to have any IPv4 port forwards in my router

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread John Levine
In article <3ccd8c9a687b1a780c7f2e0f9e89b6d55ccdb2a7.ca...@interlinx.bc.ca> you write: >But the came I am making is to PHBs, not engineers and I am trying to >find a path of least resistance. Oh, then tell them that IPv4 addresses now cost (wave hands) ten bucks each while IPv6 addresses are free

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Valdis Klētnieks
On Mon, 06 May 2019 14:51:50 -0400, Tom Beecher said: > PHB? Then make it a cost argument. > > "If you plan an implement V6 today, will will cost N. If you delay until > you discover V6 only services, it will cost 3-5xN to implement quickly, > with additional risk of additional costs because quick

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Tom Beecher
PHB? Then make it a cost argument. "If you plan an implement V6 today, will will cost N. If you delay until you discover V6 only services, it will cost 3-5xN to implement quickly, with additional risk of additional costs because quicker implementations are likely to miss something along the way."

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Nuno Vieira via NANOG
VULTR VM IPv6 only is available aswell at $2.5 per month. https://www.vultr.com/?ref=7577922 - Original Message - From: "Robert McKay" To: "Pshem Kowalczyk" Cc: "North American Network Operators' Group" Sent: Monday, 6 May, 2019 14:43:12 Subject: R

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 12:12 -0400, John Levine wrote: > > There are perfectly good reasons to use v6: no NAT in front of your > devices, Check. > every service gets its own IP, Roger. > better connections to devices > on mobile networks and home networks that are behind v4 NATs. Bingo! All v

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >Another provider offering discounted IPv6 only VPSes is gandi.net > >https://www.gandi.net/en/cloud -- the two cheapest options "XS-V6" and >"Small - IPv6" are IPv6 only. That's not very persuasive since even their v6 only prices are p

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Robert McKay
Another provider offering discounted IPv6 only VPSes is gandi.net https://www.gandi.net/en/cloud -- the two cheapest options "XS-V6" and "Small - IPv6" are IPv6 only. also https://www.mythic-beasts.com/order/rpi is IPv6 only. Rob On 2019-05-05 23:26, Pshem Kowalczyk wrot

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-06 Thread Brian J. Murrell
On Mon, 2019-05-06 at 10:26 +1200, Pshem Kowalczyk wrote: > I've found a VPS provider (https://www.vultr.com/pricing/) that > offers > cheaper instances with IPv6 only. That's an interesting one. Neat to see. But it would probably be a stretch to try to use that as example

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-05 Thread Doug Barton
On 5/3/19 1:33 PM, Mohammad Khalil wrote: Hello all I have prepared something in the past you might find useful (hopefully). First, it's considered rude to send attachments of any size to a mailing list, never mind one that's almost 2 megs in size. Much better to put it on a web site somewher

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-05 Thread Pshem Kowalczyk
I've found a VPS provider (https://www.vultr.com/pricing/) that offers cheaper instances with IPv6 only. I suspect that there might be others, as ultimately those sort of services can't really escape the issue by using NAT. kind regards Pshem On Sat, 4 May 2019 at 03:15, Brian J. Murr

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-05 Thread Marco Davids via NANOG
Op 03-05-19 om 17:14 schreef Brian J. Murrell: I wonder if anyone has any references to interesting/useful/otherwise resources on are only available to IPv6 users that they can forward to me. Most of my personals websites are IPv6-only, but they are neither interesting nor useful. Although

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-04 Thread Mohammad Khalil
peering relationships > over IPv6; and there are a lot of eyeball networks, especially mobile > providers, who are using it natively nowadays. > > hope this helps, > > Doug > > > The most valuable/useful network resource available today using IPv6 is a > mobile

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-03 Thread James R Cutler
> > hope this helps, > > Doug The most valuable/useful network resource available today using IPv6 is a mobile network customer. (Not necessarily IPV6 only, but IPv4 requires extra effort.) - James R. Cutler james.cut...@consultant.com GPG keys: hkps://hkps.pool.sks-keyservers.net

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-03 Thread Doug Barton
On 5/3/19 8:14 AM, Brian J. Murrell wrote: Hi, I am trying to make a case (to old fuddy-duddies, which is why I even need to actually make a case) for IPv6 for my own selfish reasons. :-) I wonder if anyone has any references to interesting/useful/otherwise resources on are only available to I

Re: any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-03 Thread Jeroen Massar
On 2019-05-03 17:14, Brian J. Murrell wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to make a case (to old fuddy-duddies, which is why I even > need to actually make a case) for IPv6 for my own selfish reasons. :-) > > I wonder if anyone has any references to interesting/useful/otherwise > resources on are only

any interesting/useful resources available to IPv6 only?

2019-05-03 Thread Brian J. Murrell
Hi, I am trying to make a case (to old fuddy-duddies, which is why I even need to actually make a case) for IPv6 for my own selfish reasons. :-) I wonder if anyone has any references to interesting/useful/otherwise resources on are only available to IPv6 users that they can forward to me. Cheer

Re: IPv6 deployment excuses - IPv6 only resources

2016-07-04 Thread Scott Morizot
On Mon, Jul 4, 2016 at 11:55 AM, Jacques Latour wrote: > > Is there a list of IPv6 only ISP or services? I'd be curious to trend > that somehow, by geography, service type, etc... if any. > Since "IPv6 only" right now is primarily about those portions of the netw

RE: IPv6 deployment excuses - IPv6 only resources

2016-07-04 Thread Jacques Latour
Is there a list of IPv6 only ISP or services? I'd be curious to trend that somehow, by geography, service type, etc... if any. >-Original Message- >From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Mark Andrews >Sent: July-04-16 9:49 AM >To: Matt Hoppes &

Re: How to build an IPv6-only internal network?

2015-07-09 Thread Mark Tinka
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 8/Jul/15 22:23, Fred Baker (fred) wrote: > > (2) they use NAT64 (RFC 6146/6147) translation The only issue with NAT64 is that you still need some IPv4 space. If you can't get any anymore, despite all the millions of $$ in your bank, then we'l

Re: How to build an IPv6-only internal network?

2015-07-08 Thread manning
Over the years, I’ve had pretty good success with the IVI package. RFC 6219 lays out how it works and some folks experiences with v6-only networks. manning bmann...@karoshi.com PO Box 12317 Marina del Rey, CA 90295 310.322.8102 On 8July2015Wednesday, at 12:53, Cryptographrix wrote: > Hypoth

Re: How to build an IPv6-only internal network?

2015-07-08 Thread Fred Baker (fred)
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6877 6877 464XLAT: Combination of Stateful and Stateless Translation. M. Mawatari, M. Kawashima, C. Byrne. April 2013. (Format: TXT=31382 bytes) (Status: INFORMATIONAL) (DOI: 10.17487/RFC6877) With NAT64, a translator advertises a 96 bit prefix into th

How to build an IPv6-only internal network?

2015-07-08 Thread Cryptographrix
Hypothetically, I want to build an internal network that runs just IPv6 and apply stateless ACLs at redundant external connections. How do users access the current v4 address space?

Re: Wiki for people doing IPv6-only testing

2013-06-20 Thread Dale W. Carder
Thus spake Jason Fesler (jfes...@gigo.com) on Wed, Jun 19, 2013 at 04:55:01PM -0700: > On a recent IPv6 providers call, there was a desire for participants > to share information with each other on what works and what breaks in > an IPv6-only environment. I offered to set that up.

Wiki for people doing IPv6-only testing

2013-06-19 Thread Jason Fesler
On a recent IPv6 providers call, there was a desire for participants to share information with each other on what works and what breaks in an IPv6-only environment. I offered to set that up. It was further suggested I should share this with more than just that small community; to anyone who

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-10-30 Thread Carlos M. martinez
Hello, Due to popular demand ( :=)) ), we are currently offering the streaming of the LACNIC / LACNOG event over an IP6-only channel. Take a look at http://www2.lacnic.net/sp/eventos/lacnicxviii/stream6.html The webpage will load over IPv4 but the video is IPv6-only regards ~Carlos On 7/25

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-26 Thread Jason Hellenthal
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 04:48:48AM +, Tina TSOU wrote: > Do u mean I am a cow? I stop breast feeding this year. > > Tina ROGFLOL This is the best thing I have read yet this morning. Thanks for the laugh. > > On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:47 PM, "Randy Bush" wrote: > > >> I'm responsible for IPv6

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Joel jaeggli
ess 74.125.225.38 youtube.com has IPv6 address 2001:4860:b007::5d > Tina > > On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:48 PM, "Joel jaeggli" <mailto:joe...@bogus.com>> wrote: > >> On 7/25/12 21:43 , Tina TSOU wrote: >>> Dear Joel, >>> Who requests IPv6 on

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Tina TSOU
;> wrote: On 7/25/12 21:43 , Tina TSOU wrote: Dear Joel, Who requests IPv6 only service? you did... check the title of this thread. Tina On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:48 PM, "Joel jaeggli" mailto:joe...@bogus.com>> wrote: On 7/25/12 13:15 , Tina TSOU wrote: Dear all, If you know th

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Tina TSOU
Do u mean I am a cow? I stop breast feeding this year. Tina On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:47 PM, "Randy Bush" wrote: >> I'm responsible for IPv6 deployment in my enterprise network, the >> users are my colleagues. In this context, I'm not vendor, not >> operator. > > i smell cows

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 7/25/12 21:43 , Tina TSOU wrote: > Dear Joel, > Who requests IPv6 only service? you did... check the title of this thread. > Tina > > On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:48 PM, "Joel jaeggli" wrote: > >> On 7/25/12 13:15 , Tina TSOU wrote: >>> Dear all, >>

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Randy Bush
> I'm responsible for IPv6 deployment in my enterprise network, the > users are my colleagues. In this context, I'm not vendor, not > operator. i smell cows

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Tina TSOU
Dear Joel, Who requests IPv6 only service? Tina On Jul 25, 2012, at 8:48 PM, "Joel jaeggli" wrote: > On 7/25/12 13:15 , Tina TSOU wrote: >> Dear all, >> If you know there is any testing or commercial IPv6 only streaming video we >> can access, let me know. &

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 7/25/12 13:15 , Tina TSOU wrote: > Dear all, > If you know there is any testing or commercial IPv6 only streaming video we > can access, let me know. > Thank you. speaking as a content provider, ipv6-only service requests are misguided. > Tina > > >> -Or

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Tina TSOU
Dear Randy, I'm responsible for IPv6 deployment in my enterprise network, the users are my colleagues. In this context, I'm not vendor, not operator. Tina On Jul 25, 2012, at 5:20 PM, "Randy Bush" wrote: >> My enterprise users > > it is generally best if vendors do not speak for users and vic

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Tina TSOU wrote: > My enterprise users need to turn off IPv4 on their hosts to experience > YouTube IPv6 only streaming video. Courtesy to Owen. I think if you have a dual-stack host you'll just get the v6 version of stream... I suppose there are ha

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Randy Bush
> My enterprise users it is generally best if vendors do not speak for users and vice versa randy

RE: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Tina TSOU
My enterprise users need to turn off IPv4 on their hosts to experience YouTube IPv6 only streaming video. Courtesy to Owen. It is an enterprise network here, I can't dictate for everyone. Some people prefer dual stack host, some people prefer IPv6 only host. Youtube works in our IPv6 only

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Tina TSOU wrote: > Dear all, > If you know there is any testing or commercial IPv6 only streaming video we > can access, let me know. > Thank you. youtube will stream at you over ipv6 ... did you just need some thing to stream at you over ipv6? I t

RE: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Tina TSOU
Dear all, If you know there is any testing or commercial IPv6 only streaming video we can access, let me know. Thank you. Tina > -Original Message- > From: Arturo Servin [mailto:aser...@lacnic.net] > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:14 PM > To: Tina TSOU > Cc:

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Arturo Servin
it off. > > I will look around to restart it. > > Thanks! > as > > On 25 Jul 2012, at 15:37, Tina TSOU wrote: > >> We got offline after discussion in NANOG in May. This IPv6 only streaming >> video worked well until recently. We use it in my enterp

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Arturo Servin
ay. This IPv6 only streaming > video worked well until recently. We use it in my enterprise network. > I just could not find his contact in my mailbox. So I hope he can find me > again. > Does the link accessible from your IPv6 host? > > Tina > @ 2001:db8:1::e8e2:7822:

RE: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Tina TSOU
We got offline after discussion in NANOG in May. This IPv6 only streaming video worked well until recently. We use it in my enterprise network. I just could not find his contact in my mailbox. So I hope he can find me again. Does the link accessible from your IPv6 host? Tina @ 2001:db8:1

Re: IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Tina TSOU wrote: > http://video.v6.labs.lacnic.net/jw/ > Server can not be found since yesterday. Has the URL been changed? > > did you mean to email the lacnic folks?

IPv6 only streaming video

2012-07-25 Thread Tina TSOU
http://video.v6.labs.lacnic.net/jw/ Server can not be found since yesterday. Has the URL been changed? Tina 408-859-4996

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 01:34:25PM -0400, Ray Soucy wrote: > Cisco has had MLD snooping support for some time. But they seem to > have broken it in a recent release, so it drops ND traffic and breaks > IPv6; been after them to fix it, but doesn't look like it's been > resolved yet. Nice. Juniper

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread TJ
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 13:34, Ray Soucy wrote: > Cisco has had MLD snooping support for some time. But they seem to > have broken it in a recent release, so it drops ND traffic and breaks > IPv6; been after them to fix it, but doesn't look like it's been > resolved yet. > > But you're correct th

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 9 jun 2011, at 19:34, Ray Soucy wrote: > But you're correct that without MLD snooping IPv6 ND traffic is on par > with IPv4 broadcast traffic and not a major problem. It does mean, > however, that a large IPv6 multicast stream, like video or system > imaging, would be about as bad as doing so

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Martin Millnert
Iljitsch, On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > Are there any switches out there that do MLDP snooping to avoid flooding IPv6 > multicasts? Something as enterprisey as even HP Procurve (!) has been doing this for years. Regards, Martin

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Ray Soucy
Cisco has had MLD snooping support for some time. But they seem to have broken it in a recent release, so it drops ND traffic and breaks IPv6; been after them to fix it, but doesn't look like it's been resolved yet. But you're correct that without MLD snooping IPv6 ND traffic is on par with IPv4

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Erik Bais
Hi Iljitsch, The switches from Extreme Networks do MLD and MLD snooping, I know for sure on the x450's and up, probably below that line as well. Erik Bais Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op Jun 9, 2011 om 18:49 heeft Iljitsch van Beijnum het volgende geschreven: > On 9 jun 2011, at 6:36, Karl Aue

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Joel Jaeggli
yes http://www.google.com/search?q=mld+snooping+switch On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: > On 9 jun 2011, at 6:36, Karl Auer wrote: > >> Well, a modern switch should work fine, even if not directly IPv6 aware, >> but it won't understand multicast and will generally flood m

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 9 jun 2011, at 6:36, Karl Auer wrote: > Well, a modern switch should work fine, even if not directly IPv6 aware, > but it won't understand multicast and will generally flood multicast > frames to all interfaces. So definitely stipulate IPv6 capability, even > for switches Are there any swi

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Joseph Jackson
Wouldn't the multicast flooding be just like broadcasts tho? Some of my sites don't have switches that will be upgraded or upgradeable to software that will support IPv6 directly (at least not for a few years). Is that going to cause major headaches? I under stand the RA risks but the DHCPv6 sno

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-08 Thread Tim Chown
On 9 Jun 2011, at 05:36, Karl Auer wrote: > On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 17:37 -1000, Paul Graydon wrote: >> Dumb question.. what does the switch (L2) have to do with IPv6 (L3), or >> is it one of those 'somewhere in between the two' things? > > Well, a modern switch should work fine, even if not dire

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-08 Thread Karl Auer
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 17:37 -1000, Paul Graydon wrote: > Dumb question.. what does the switch (L2) have to do with IPv6 (L3), or > is it one of those 'somewhere in between the two' things? Well, a modern switch should work fine, even if not directly IPv6 aware, but it won't understand multicast a

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-08 Thread Richard Patterson
IPv6 has its own ethertype. (0x86DD) see the list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EtherType We've also encountered old IOSes that didn't forward Ethernet frames that contained IPv6 payload. On 06/09/2011 03:37 PM, Paul Graydon wrote: Dumb question.. what does the switch (L2) have to do with IPv

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-08 Thread Paul Graydon
Dumb question.. what does the switch (L2) have to do with IPv6 (L3), or is it one of those 'somewhere in between the two' things? Paul On 6/8/2011 1:08 PM, fredrik danerklint wrote: Well, that's another problem. To make a long story short, the network (not mine and I don't have any kind of co

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