Re: ICANN verification

2025-02-14 Thread Jay
On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 12:09 PM Warren Kumari wrote: > If you let people know the domain name, you might have more luck — e.g > someone who works at the registrar may look into it, etc. > Also, it seems surprising that this would be an **ICANN** verification > message… Domain pro

Re: ICANN verification

2025-02-14 Thread Rubens Kuhl
Because this is mandated by an ICANN policy, a number of registrars send messages with such labels. Notably the wholesale registrars, which have to send those messages but are not the point of sale of the domain. https://lookup.icann.org/ will probably have clues for the original poster to figure

Re: ICANN verification

2025-02-14 Thread Jay
On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 8:26 AM Marco Belmonte via NANOG wrote: > The company I work for owns a domain that was registered by an employee > that no longer works for us and we have been unable to track them down. > 48 hours ago the website at the domain was replaced by an ICANN >

Re: ICANN verification

2025-02-14 Thread Warren Kumari
If you let people know the domain name, you might have more luck — e.g someone who works at the registrar may look into it, etc. Also, it seems surprising that this would be an **ICANN** verification message… W On Fri, Feb 14, 2025 at 8:48 AM, Marco Belmonte wrote: > The company I work

ICANN verification

2025-02-14 Thread Marco Belmonte via NANOG
The company I work for owns a domain that was registered by an employee that no longer works for us and we have been unable to track them down. 48 hours ago the website at the domain was replaced by an ICANN verification message. It offers two solutions - neither is possible at the moment: 1

Call for Participation -- ICANN81 DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN Policy Forum

2024-04-02 Thread Jacques Latour via NANOG
Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN Policy Forum In cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), we are planning a DNSSEC and Security Workshop for the ICANN80 Policy Forum being held as a hybrid meeting from 10-13 June 2024

Hiring: Machine Learning Engineer ICANN Office CTO

2024-01-02 Thread Samaneh Tajalizadehkhoob
US is an option too. Please take a look and share with whoever would be interested. https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/view/3672913207 Cheers, Samaneh Tajalizadeh Director, Security Stability Resiliency Research ICANN

Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN79 Community Forum

2023-11-20 Thread Jacques Latour via NANOG
Call for Participation – ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN79 Community Forum In cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), we are planning a DNSSEC and Security Workshop for the ICANN79 Community Forum being held as a hybrid meeting from 02-07

Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN78

2023-07-14 Thread Jacques Latour via NANOG
Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN7 Annual General Meeting In cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), we are planning a DNSSEC and Security Workshop for the ICANN78 Annual General Meeting being held as a hybrid meeting

Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN77 Policy Forum

2023-04-13 Thread Jacques Latour
Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN77 Policy Forum In cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), we are planning a DNSSEC and Security Workshop for the ICANN77 Policy Forum being held in Washington, DC and as a hybrid

CfP - ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN76 Community Forum in Cancún

2022-11-29 Thread Jacques Latour
Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN76 Community Forum In cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), we are planning a DNSSEC and Security Workshop for the ICANN76 Community Forum being held as a hybrid meeting from 11-16

Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN75 Annual General Meeting

2022-07-13 Thread Jacques Latour
Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN75 Annual General Meeting In cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), we are planning a DNSSEC and Security Workshop for the ICANN75 Annual General Meeting being held as a hybrid meeting

Re: ICANN

2022-07-09 Thread Martin Hannigan
ation (or address for service of legal > documents) for ICANN? There web site does not appear to contain contact > information. > > ICANN apparently promulgates a policy which requires clickage on spam > links in e-mail. I intend to sue them for trillions of dollars for this >

RE: ICANN

2022-07-09 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Friday, 8 July, 2022 19:02, Karl Auerbach said: >Spammers are a scourge and I hope you get that $trilliion. But ICANN >will fairly easily deflect most legal efforts based on a claim that >ICANN bears responsibility. Years ago I proposed a solution from King >Croesus as

Re: ICANN

2022-07-09 Thread Edwin Mallette
To the OP… I hear ICANN also has a no trolls policy. I’m sure you can find that if you look hard enough. Your best bet is to go find the nearest bridge.l and hang out under it. Don’t worry - they’ll find you. Ed PS - normally I too have a no trolls policy but I couldn’t resist

Re: ICANN

2022-07-08 Thread bzs
You'd probably be 99.999% more successful in improving the state of humanity by being more specific about what you are referring to. Put another way you've probably reached "ICANN" by posting here, or as well as you're likely to by any other means you're imagin

Re: ICANN

2022-07-08 Thread Jay Hennigan
On 7/8/22 08:24, Rubens Kuhl wrote: If you believe in everything an email says, I have an island to sell that you might be interested in. I have a bridge for sale. This will be beneficial in reaching your newly-purchased island. -- Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net Network Engineering - CCIE #788

Re: ICANN

2022-07-08 Thread John Levine
It appears that Keith Medcalf said: > >Does anyone have contact information (or address for service of legal >documents) for ICANN? There web site does not appear to contain contact >information. If you really wish to send such a letter, I would send it by paper mail, attn Gen

Re: ICANN

2022-07-08 Thread David Conrad
On Jul 8, 2022, at 8:21 AM, Keith Medcalf wrote: > Does anyone have contact information (or address for service of legal > documents) for ICANN? https://www.icann.org/locations? <https://www.icann.org/locations?> > There web site does not appear to contain contact > informat

ICANN

2022-07-08 Thread Sylvain Baya
Dear NANOG-ers, Hopefully, this email finds you in good health! Please see my comments below, inline... Le vendredi 8 juillet 2022, Rubens Kuhl a écrit : > If you believe in everything an email says, I have an island to sell > that you might be interested in. > > That said,

Re: ICANN

2022-07-08 Thread Rubens Kuhl
If you believe in everything an email says, I have an island to sell that you might be interested in. That said, ICANN has a compliance department: https://www.icann.org/compliance/complaint Rubens On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 12:22 PM Keith Medcalf wrote: > > > Does anyone have contact in

ICANN

2022-07-08 Thread Keith Medcalf
Does anyone have contact information (or address for service of legal documents) for ICANN? There web site does not appear to contain contact information. ICANN apparently promulgates a policy which requires clickage on spam links in e-mail. I intend to sue them for trillions of dollars for

Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN74 Policy Forum

2022-04-13 Thread Jacques Latour
Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN74 Policy Forum In cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), we are planning a DNSSEC and Security Workshop for the ICANN74 Public Forum being held as a hybrid meeting from 13-16 June

Re: ICANN Survey on DNS Suffix Usage and New gTLD Delegation

2022-04-05 Thread Casey Deccio
thanks, Casey Dear colleagues, tl;dr: Please take our survey on DNS suffix usage here: https://forms.gle/ntvsn6eqzYH9YcTN6 The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is researching the technical impact of delegating new generic top-level

ICANN Survey on DNS Suffix Usage and New gTLD Delegation

2022-03-30 Thread Casey Deccio
Dear colleagues, tl;dr: Please take our survey on DNS suffix usage here: https://forms.gle/ntvsn6eqzYH9YcTN6 The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) is researching the technical impact of delegating new generic top-level domains (gTLDs). This research is part of the

Re: Latest from ICANN: Quantum Computers + N85 Peering Forum

2022-03-20 Thread Masataka Ohta
As I wrote: Nanog News wrote: Latest from ICANN: Quantum Computers are "Interesting"… But Don't Lose your Head Uselessness of quantum logic gate style quantum computers will be discussed in a separate mail. Quantum logic gate style quantum computers use qubits, which have

Re: Latest from ICANN: Quantum Computers + N85 Peering Forum

2022-03-18 Thread Masataka Ohta
Nanog News wrote: Latest from ICANN: Quantum Computers are "Interesting"… But Don't Lose your Head But, quantum computers are mocked up by theoretical physicists, IT amateurs who don't know basics of computational and/or information theory at all, and, as such, just do

Latest from ICANN: Quantum Computers + N85 Peering Forum

2022-03-16 Thread Nanog News
Latest from ICANN: Quantum Computers are "Interesting"… But Don't Lose your Head *An Interview with ICANN, Paul Hoffman* In a recent publication, written by ICANN (Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers), chief technology officer Paul Hoffman discussed the hot t

Re: ICANN Response (Re: Ukraine request yikes)

2022-03-03 Thread Sean Donelan
https://www.icrc.org/en Convention (V) respecting the Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers and Persons in Case of War on Land. The Hague, 18 October 1907. CHAPTER I : THE RIGHTS AND DUTIES OF NEUTRAL POWERS - ART. 8. Art. 8. A neutral Power is not called upon to forbid or restrict the use o

Re: ICANN Response (Re: Ukraine request yikes)

2022-03-03 Thread Brian R
John, Thank you for these. I'm glad to hear the stance on both of these. Brian From: NANOG on behalf of John Curran Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 5:04 AM To: Nanog Subject: ICANN Response (Re: Ukraine request yikes) ICANN response request from the Uk

Re: ICANN Response (Re: Ukraine request yikes)

2022-03-03 Thread Jason Kuehl
Yep, I completely agree. I also think if they had done anything else, it would have been a reputation-ending. On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 8:19 AM Jorge Amodio wrote: > > I believe it is a proper response, besides that it is not right for ICANN > to get in the middle of this type of con

Re: ICANN Response (Re: Ukraine request yikes)

2022-03-03 Thread Jorge Amodio
I believe it is a proper response, besides that it is not right for ICANN to get in the middle of this type of conflict, in situations like this, increasing the flow of real information counters the flow of misinformation. -J On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 7:05 AM John Curran wrote: > ICANN respo

ICANN Response (Re: Ukraine request yikes)

2022-03-03 Thread John Curran
ICANN response request from the Ukraine regarding various DNS interventions – https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/marby-to-fedorov-02mar22-en.pdf FYI, /John John Curran President and CEO American Registry for Internet Numbers On 2 Mar 2022, at 1:01 AM, John Curran

Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN73 Community Forum

2022-01-12 Thread Jacques Latour
Hi all, Happy new year! 8 weeks left before the next virtual ICANN DNSSEC & Security workshop. Let us know if you are interested to present. Jacques Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN73 Community Forum In cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stabi

Re: FYI: NANOG and ICANN

2021-10-09 Thread Martin Hannigan
s >> incredible excess of funding >> towards more useful pursuits than those ICANN has endowed so far. >> > > > https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-and-first-sign-memorandum-of-understanding-on-dns-threats-mitigation-22-5-2020-en > > > htt

Re: FYI: NANOG and ICANN

2021-10-08 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
s more useful pursuits than those ICANN has endowed so far. > > https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-and-first-sign-memorandum-of-understanding-on-dns-threats-mitigation-22-5-2020-en > > <https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-and-first-sign-memorandum

Re: FYI: NANOG and ICANN

2021-10-08 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, Oct 8, 2021 at 2:39 PM Owen DeLong via NANOG wrote: > I see this as a way to allow NANOG to help channel some of ICANN’s > incredible excess of funding > towards more useful pursuits than those ICANN has endowed so far. > https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/ica

Re: FYI: NANOG and ICANN

2021-10-08 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
I see this as a way to allow NANOG to help channel some of ICANN’s incredible excess of funding towards more useful pursuits than those ICANN has endowed so far. Owen > On Oct 4, 2021, at 9:27 AM, Edward McNair wrote: > > This partnership will have no ill effect on NANOG confere

Re: FYI: NANOG and ICANN

2021-10-04 Thread Edward McNair
. Eisenhower Pkwy, Suite 100 | Ann Arbor, MI 48108, USA > On Oct 4, 2021, at 9:12 AM, Mehmet Akcin wrote: > > Icann meetings used to be great. They are horrible now with few exceptions of > several technical sessions. > > I hope this don’t ruin nanog meetings > > On Mon

Re: FYI: NANOG and ICANN

2021-10-04 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Icann meetings used to be great. They are horrible now with few exceptions of several technical sessions. I hope this don’t ruin nanog meetings On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 12:08 J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote: > You mean they could not come together enough to share even the same page > yet

Re: FYI: NANOG and ICANN

2021-10-04 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
y to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume. > On Oct 4, 2021, at 09:33, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > > NANOG’s version: > https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with-internet-society-icann/ > > -- > TTFN, &

Re: FYI: NANOG and ICANN

2021-10-04 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
NANOG’s version: https://www.nanog.org/stories/nanog-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with-internet-society-icann/ -- TTFN, patrick > On Oct 4, 2021, at 4:42 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-w

FYI: NANOG and ICANN

2021-10-04 Thread Hank Nussbacher
https://www.icann.org/en/announcements/details/icann-signs-a-memorandum-of-understanding-with-nanog-27-9-2021-en Regards, Hank

Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN72 Virtual Annual General Meeting

2021-09-09 Thread Jacques Latour
Hi all 😊 Hope you all had a great summer!!! Let us know if you’re interested in presenting something DNSSEC or security related. Thanks, Jacques Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN72 Virtual Annual General Meeting In cooperation with the ICANN Security

Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN72 Virtual Annual General Meeting

2021-07-28 Thread Jacques Latour
Hello NANOG! This is the CfP for our next DNSSEC & Security workshop @ ICANN72. Jacques Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC and Security Workshop for ICANN72 Virtual Annual General Meeting In cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), we are planni

Re: dot-org TLD sale halted by ICANN

2020-05-01 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >Wasn't the price cap removal what started this mess in for first place? Not really. Under the old price cap the maximum price this year would be about $16 but in fact the actual price is $10. Competitive pressures are the important factor in setting registry prices. For

Re: dot-org TLD sale halted by ICANN

2020-05-01 Thread Bill Woodcock
st in the past. Great (IMHO) >>> to see this happen. >> >> Yeah, this is an excellent result in the first-half of the fight. Now that >> we know who won’t be acting AGAINST non-profits, we need ICANN to run the >> competitive process again to find who will act FOR

Re: dot-org TLD sale halted by ICANN

2020-05-01 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On May 1, 2020, at 1:56 PM, james jones wrote: > > I don't know if this feasible, I would rather see the ORG TLD in the hands of > a nonprofit. That is just a personal feeling. I don't how practical that > would be though. That was, right up until the very last moment, a hard requirement i

Re: dot-org TLD sale halted by ICANN

2020-05-01 Thread james jones
excellent result in the first-half of the fight. Now > that > > we know who won’t be acting AGAINST non-profits, we need ICANN to run the > > competitive process again to find who will act FOR non-profits. > > Wasn't the price cap removal what started this mess in for firs

Re: dot-org TLD sale halted by ICANN

2020-05-01 Thread Lee
t; Yeah, this is an excellent result in the first-half of the fight. Now that > we know who won’t be acting AGAINST non-profits, we need ICANN to run the > competitive process again to find who will act FOR non-profits. Wasn't the price cap removal what started this mess in for first pla

Re: dot-org TLD sale halted by ICANN

2020-05-01 Thread Bill Woodcock
ht. Now that we know who won’t be acting AGAINST non-profits, we need ICANN to run the competitive process again to find who will act FOR non-profits. -Bill signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP

dot-org TLD sale halted by ICANN

2020-04-30 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/05/01/icann_stops_dot_org_sale/ I know this has been bantered about on the list in the past. Great (IMHO) to see this happen. Andy Ringsmuth 5609 Harding Drive Lincoln, NE 68521-5831 (402) 304-0083 a...@andyring.com “Better even die free, than to live sla

Re: ICANN extracts $20m signing fee for $1bn dot-com price increases and guess who's going to pay for it?

2020-01-08 Thread John R. Levine
I have no problem paying an extra $3/year for my .com IF every domain speculator must also pay an extra $3 for each of their .coms. Is that what's happening here? Yes. The contract very clearly says that everyone pays the same renewal price to the registry. Regards, John Levine, jo...@taugh.

Re: ICANN extracts $20m signing fee for $1bn dot-com price increases and guess who's going to pay for it?

2020-01-08 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 12:46 PM John Levine wrote: > The impact of this is that if you have a .com domain name, you may > have to budget as much as an additional $3/yr. Wahoo. Hi John, I have no problem paying an extra $3/year for my .com IF every domain speculator must also pay an extra $3 for

Re: ICANN extracts $20m signing fee for $1bn dot-com price increases and guess who's going to pay for it?

2020-01-08 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >El Reg is more of a tabloid than industry media, but you can read almost >the same views at domain industry blogs: >http://domainincite.com/25129-breaking-verisign-pays-icann-20-million-and-gets-to-raise-com-prices-again >https://domainnamewire.com/2020/01/0

Re: ICANN extracts $20m signing fee for $1bn dot-com price increases and guess who's going to pay for it?

2020-01-07 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 10:58 PM Keith Medcalf wrote: > > On NANOG list , Dan Hollis > wrote: > > >https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/07/icann_verisign_fees/ > > Operator of the dot-com registry, Verisign, has decided to pay DNS > overseer ICANN $4m a year for the

RE: ICANN extracts $20m signing fee for $1bn dot-com price increases and guess who's going to pay for it?

2020-01-07 Thread Keith Medcalf
On NANOG list , Dan Hollis wrote: >https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/07/icann_verisign_fees/ Operator of the dot-com registry, Verisign, has decided to pay DNS overseer ICANN $4m a year for the next five years in order to “educate the wider ICANN community about security threats.”

ICANN extracts $20m signing fee for $1bn dot-com price increases and guess who's going to pay for it?

2020-01-07 Thread Dan Hollis
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2020/01/07/icann_verisign_fees/ 98% of the comments were opposed. How many / which companies would have to get onboard in order to get enough support for an icann alternative? Is such a thing even feasible? -Dan

Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC Workshop at ICANN65, Marrakech, Morocco.

2019-05-10 Thread Jacques Latour
Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC Workshop at ICANN65, Marrakech, Morocco. The DNSSEC Deployment Initiative and the Internet Society Deploy360 Programme, in cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), are planning a DNSSEC Workshop during the ICANN65

Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC Workshop at ICANN64 Kobe, Japan

2019-01-16 Thread Jacques Latour
Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC Workshop at ICANN64 Kobe, Japan The DNSSEC Deployment Initiative and the Internet Society Deploy360 Programme, in cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), are planning a DNSSEC Workshop during the ICANN64 meeting held

Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC Workshop at ICANN63 Barcelona, Spain

2018-08-29 Thread Jacques Latour
Hi All! Call for Participation -- ICANN DNSSEC Workshop at ICANN63 Barcelona, Spain The DNSSEC Deployment Initiative and the Internet Society Deploy360 Programme, in cooperation with the ICANN Security and Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC), are planning a DNSSEC Workshop during the ICANN63

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-06 Thread Mike Meredith
On Wed, 6 Jun 2018 08:01:35 +0300, Hank Nussbacher may have written: > "The European Commission has insisted it is *not subject to the strict > new data protection law* that it has imposed across Europe after it was > revealed the personal information of hundreds of people had been leaked > on its

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-05 Thread Hank Nussbacher
o the strict new data protection law* that it has imposed across Europe after it was revealed the personal information of hundreds of people had been leaked on its website. " -Hank > And here is the court decision, > https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/litigation-icann-v-ep

RE: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-05 Thread McBride, Mack
peering DB has a sole purpose of disseminating names, phone numbers and email addresses. Mack From: Rubens Kuhl [mailto:rube...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 1:41 PM To: McBride, Mack Cc: Daniel Corbe ; Baldur Norddahl ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit On Tue, Jun 5

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-05 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:31 PM, McBride, Mack wrote: > PeeringDB is already 100% opt-in. > Domain registration is also opt-in, and still registrars, registries and ICANN have to change things to comply with GDPR. Rubens

RE: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-05 Thread McBride, Mack
PeeringDB is already 100% opt-in. Mack -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Daniel Corbe Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 12:56 PM To: Baldur Norddahl Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit at 2:40 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: > man

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-05 Thread Daniel Corbe
at 2:40 PM, Baldur Norddahl wrote: man. 4. jun. 2018 17.31 skrev McBride, Mack : GDPR doesn't play well with directory listing services. BUT since providing contact information is exactly what a directory listing service does, It is safe to assume that this is 'essential' under GDPR. No it

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-05 Thread Badiei, Farzaneh
And here is the court decision, https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/litigation-icann-v-epag-request-court-order-prelim-injunction-redacted-30may18-en.pdf gotta love the German wisdom: The Application for preliminary injunction of May 25, 2018 is rejected at the expense of the

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread bzs
On June 4, 2018 at 17:01 ra...@psg.com (Randy Bush) wrote: > once upon a time, when one received what had yet to be called spam, or > logs showed an attack, one wrote to the owner of the source ip to tell > them their system had been hacked. dunno about everyone else, but i > stopped doing t

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, Rubens Kuhl wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 1:56 AM, Hank Nussbacher >> wrote: >> Usually, identifying attackers at other online services is a duty on RIR >> directories, and even the RIPE one is not suffering that many c

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread Dan Hollis
On Mon, 4 Jun 2018, Rubens Kuhl wrote: On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 1:56 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: Usually, identifying attackers at other online services is a duty on RIR directories, and even the RIPE one is not suffering that many changes due to GDPR. Also, GDPR doesn't prevent law enforcement ac

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread Randy Bush
once upon a time, when one received what had yet to be called spam, or logs showed an attack, one wrote to the owner of the source ip to tell them their system had been hacked. dunno about everyone else, but i stopped doing that sometime in the '80s. randy _ //` `\ _,-"\% //

RE: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread McBride, Mack
To: Baldur Norddahl Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit > On Jun 3, 2018, at 22:44 , Baldur Norddahl wrote: > >> >> >> >> Yeah, what Niels is really leaving out here is the open question of >> whether or not GDPR will eventually lead to

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread Baldur Norddahl
man. 4. jun. 2018 20.56 skrev Daniel Corbe : > > It occurs to me that operators might want to opt-in to have their data > published through PeeringDB. From a purely pragmatic standpoint, I won’t > peer with anyone I can’t reach out to and if you don’t have a 24/7 NOC > chances are good that you’r

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread Baldur Norddahl
man. 4. jun. 2018 20.58 skrev Owen DeLong : > > > Much of the information in Peering DB is people. In fact, IIRC, peering DB > doesn’t really have “role” accounts. > > Peering DB is unrelated to whois. > > Owen > No actually I just checked and peeringdb has none of my personal information. It has

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 1:56 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > On 31/05/2018 21:44, John Peach wrote: > > On 05/31/2018 02:37 PM, Dan Hollis wrote: > >> On Thu, 31 May 2018, b...@theworld.com wrote: > >>> FWIW a German court has just ruled against ICANN's injunction and in > >>> favor of Tucows/EPAG. >

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread Owen DeLong
activity > nor contradict any regulatory requirement (which covers cyber attacks). > > Mack > > -Original Message- > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Eriksson > Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 12:24 PM > To: nanog@nanog.org > S

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jun 3, 2018, at 22:44 , Baldur Norddahl wrote: > >> >> >> >> Yeah, what Niels is really leaving out here is the open question of >> whether or not GDPR will eventually lead to the destruction of Peering DB. >> >> Owen >> > > > Of course it will not. We just need to accept that only

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread Baldur Norddahl
man. 4. jun. 2018 17.31 skrev McBride, Mack : > GDPR doesn't play well with directory listing services. > BUT since providing contact information is exactly what a directory > listing service does, > It is safe to assume that this is 'essential' under GDPR. > No it is very clear that publishing p

RE: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread McBride, Mack
-Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Johnny Eriksson Sent: Monday, June 04, 2018 12:24 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit Hank Nussbacher wrote: > The entire whois debacle will only get resolved when some hackers >

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread Johnny Eriksson
Hank Nussbacher wrote: > The entire whois debacle will only get resolved when some hackers attack > www.eugdpr.org, ec.europa.eu and some other key .eu sites.  When the > response they get will be "sorry, we can't determine who is attacking > you since that contravenes GDPR", will the EU light bu

RE: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread McBride, Mack
DeLong Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 10:00 PM To: Rodney Joffe Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit > On Jun 3, 2018, at 14:17 , Rodney Joffe wrote: > > > >> On Jun 1, 2018, at 10:21 AM, niels=na...@bakker.net wrote: >> >> * l...@satchell.net (Stephen Sat

RE: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-04 Thread McBride, Mack
[mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Rodney Joffe Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 3:17 PM To: NANOG Subject: Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit > On Jun 1, 2018, at 10:21 AM, niels=na...@bakker.net wrote: > > * l...@satchell.net (Stephen Satchell) [Fri 01 Jun 2018, 14:51 CEST]: >> How

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-03 Thread Baldur Norddahl
> > > > Yeah, what Niels is really leaving out here is the open question of > whether or not GDPR will eventually lead to the destruction of Peering DB. > > Owen > Of course it will not. We just need to accept that only roles not people are published. Those people will change job anyway and nobod

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-03 Thread Owen DeLong
> On Jun 3, 2018, at 14:17 , Rodney Joffe wrote: > > > >> On Jun 1, 2018, at 10:21 AM, niels=na...@bakker.net wrote: >> >> * l...@satchell.net (Stephen Satchell) [Fri 01 Jun 2018, 14:51 CEST]: >>> How does your shop, Niels, go about making contact with an operator that is >>> hijacking one

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-03 Thread Rodney Joffe
> On Jun 1, 2018, at 10:21 AM, niels=na...@bakker.net wrote: > > * l...@satchell.net (Stephen Satchell) [Fri 01 Jun 2018, 14:51 CEST]: >> How does your shop, Niels, go about making contact with an operator that is >> hijacking one of your netblocks, or is doing something weird with routing >>

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-01 Thread Stephen Satchell
ecify exactly these role accounts for TECH and ABUSE, not a person. This gets around the GDPR requirements while maintaining the usefulness of the WHOIS without having to go through an intermediate party or web site. ICANN may want to consider this idea when adjusting its contracts with registrars to eliminate GDPR exposure.

RE: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-01 Thread McBride, Mack
01, 2018 9:24 AM To: l...@satchell.net Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Stephen Satchell wrote: > In other words, how do you do your job in light of the GDPR > restrictions on accessing contact information for other network operators? > &

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-01 Thread William Herrin
On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:47 AM, Stephen Satchell wrote: > In other words, how do you do your job in light of the GDPR restrictions > on accessing contact information for other network operators? > > Please be specific. A lot of NOC policies and procedures will need to > be updated. Publish role

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-01 Thread niels=nanog
* l...@satchell.net (Stephen Satchell) [Fri 01 Jun 2018, 14:51 CEST]: How does your shop, Niels, go about making contact with an operator that is hijacking one of your netblocks, or is doing something weird with routing that is causing your customers problems, or has broken BGP? The same as w

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-01 Thread John Peach
On 06/01/2018 08:47 AM, Stephen Satchell wrote: On 06/01/2018 05:24 AM, niels=na...@bakker.net wrote: * h...@efes.iucc.ac.il (Hank Nussbacher) [Fri 01 Jun 2018, 06:56 CEST]: The entire whois debacle will only get resolved when some hackers attack www.eugdpr.org, ec.europa.eu and some other key

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-01 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 06/01/2018 05:24 AM, niels=na...@bakker.net wrote: > * h...@efes.iucc.ac.il (Hank Nussbacher) [Fri 01 Jun 2018, 06:56 CEST]: >> The entire whois debacle will only get resolved when some hackers attack >> www.eugdpr.org, ec.europa.eu and some other key .eu sites.  When the >> response they get wi

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-01 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 01/06/2018 15:24, niels=na...@bakker.net wrote: > * h...@efes.iucc.ac.il (Hank Nussbacher) [Fri 01 Jun 2018, 06:56 CEST]: >> The entire whois debacle will only get resolved when some hackers attack >> www.eugdpr.org, ec.europa.eu and some other key .eu sites.  When the >> response they get will

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-06-01 Thread niels=nanog
* h...@efes.iucc.ac.il (Hank Nussbacher) [Fri 01 Jun 2018, 06:56 CEST]: The entire whois debacle will only get resolved when some hackers attack www.eugdpr.org, ec.europa.eu and some other key .eu sites.  When the response they get will be "sorry, we can't determine who is attacking you since tha

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-05-31 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On 31/05/2018 21:44, John Peach wrote: > On 05/31/2018 02:37 PM, Dan Hollis wrote: >> On Thu, 31 May 2018, b...@theworld.com wrote: >>> FWIW a German court has just ruled against ICANN's injunction and in >>> favor of Tucows/EPAG. >>>   https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2018-05-30-en >> >>

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-05-31 Thread Oliver O'Boyle
whoisnt On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Dan Hollis wrote: > On Thu, 31 May 2018, b...@theworld.com wrote: >> >> FWIW a German court has just ruled against ICANN's injunction and in >> favor of Tucows/EPAG. >> https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2018-05-30-en > > > Welcome to contact-free

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-05-31 Thread John Peach
On 05/31/2018 02:37 PM, Dan Hollis wrote: On Thu, 31 May 2018, b...@theworld.com wrote: FWIW a German court has just ruled against ICANN's injunction and in favor of Tucows/EPAG.   https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2018-05-30-en Welcome to contact-free whois? -Dan Already been bitt

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-05-31 Thread Dan Hollis
On Thu, 31 May 2018, b...@theworld.com wrote: FWIW a German court has just ruled against ICANN's injunction and in favor of Tucows/EPAG. https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2018-05-30-en Welcome to contact-free whois? -Dan

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-05-30 Thread bzs
FWIW a German court has just ruled against ICANN's injunction and in favor of Tucows/EPAG. https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-4-2018-05-30-en -- -Barry Shein Software Tool & Die| b...@theworld.com | http://www.TheWorld.com Purveyors to the Trade | Voice: +1 617

Re: ICANN GDPR lawsuit

2018-05-30 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >http://www.circleid.com/posts/20180527_icann_files_legal_action_against_domain_registrar_whois_data/ Elliot said that if he had to choose between fighting ICANN and fighting governments, he'd fight ICANN. I can't blame him. http://www.tucows.com/tucows-state

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