Re: Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-21 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jun 20, 2011 9:47 AM, "Christopher Pilkington" wrote: > > On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: > > > internet connectivity, and that much $ is at stake, you're stupid if you don't have some redundancy. Nothing works all the time forever. > > I can't consider Cogent even a redundant

Re: Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-20 Thread George B.
> >> internet connectivity, and that much $ is at stake, you're stupid if you >> don't have some redundancy.  Nothing works all the time forever. > > I can't consider Cogent even a redundant link, since I need two other > upstreams to reach the Internet redundantly. > > -cjp > Well, they aren't s

Re: Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-20 Thread Christopher Pilkington
On Jun 20, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: > internet connectivity, and that much $ is at stake, you're stupid if you > don't have some redundancy. Nothing works all the time forever. I can't consider Cogent even a redundant link, since I need two other upstreams to reach the Internet redu

Re: Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-20 Thread Jon Lewis
On Sat, 18 Jun 2011, George B. wrote: I suppose the moral of the story is: "never single-home to Cogent" The moral is multihome. It gets real old hearing people whine that they're losing $XXX,XXX.XX per hour, minute, whatever, when their internet access fails...but they spend some tiny fra

Re: Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-19 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From geor...@gmail.com Sun Jun 19 17:48:31 2011 > Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:48:32 -0700 > Subject: Re: Cogent depeers ESnet > From: "George B." > To: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu > Cc: Robert Bonomi , nanog@nanog.org > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 2:47 PM, wrote: &g

Re: Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-19 Thread George B.
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 2:47 PM, wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 03:15:09 CDT, Robert Bonomi said: > >> Anybody got draft language for a SLA clause that requires routing 'at least >> one hop _past_ the provider's network edge' for every AS visible at major >> public peering points and/or LookingGlas

Re: Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-19 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 03:15:09 CDT, Robert Bonomi said: > Anybody got draft language for a SLA clause that requires routing 'at least > one hop _past_ the provider's network edge' for every AS visible at major > public peering points and/or LookingGlass sites? *every* ASN? Oh my. ;) pgpZ65dL0bm

Re: Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-19 Thread Christopher Pilkington
On Jun 19, 2011, at 4:16 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: > >> > Anybody got draft language for a SLA clause that requires routing 'at least > one hop _past_ the provider's network edge' for every AS visible at major > public peering points and/or LookingGlass sites? This is relevant to my interests. I'd

Re: Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-19 Thread Robert Bonomi
> From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Sun Jun 19 01:46:06 > 2011 > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:44:28 -0700 > Subject: Re: Cogent depeers ESnet > From: "George B." > To: Nick Hilliard > Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" > > On Sat

Re: Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-18 Thread George B.
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: > Slightly old news, but it looks like Cogent depeered ESnet last week: > >> >> http://www.es.net/news-and-publications/esnet-news/2011/important-status-announcement-regarding-cogent-connectivity/ > > Current traceroutes indicate that ESnet is

Cogent depeers ESnet

2011-06-18 Thread Nick Hilliard
Slightly old news, but it looks like Cogent depeered ESnet last week: http://www.es.net/news-and-publications/esnet-news/2011/important-status-announcement-regarding-cogent-connectivity/ Current traceroutes indicate that ESnet is reaching Cogent via 6939_1299. In other news, automatically dro