On Tue, Mar 26, 2019 at 11:29 PM Ross Tajvar wrote:
> But most likely you're just out of luck.
>
it's really amazing that this is still the case, with our effectively
internet based economy now.
folks,
I've been away from nanog for a long time - and away from the ISP world for
longer.
Looking at a house in a new area, at&t copper splice box out front,
bellsouth fiber markers as well (yes, that's usually just passing by. but
it's there). Owners since '82 said the telephone company was AT
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 6:21 PM, David Birdsong wrote:
>
> I'd love to hear how others are handling the overhead of managing two dns
> providers. Every time we brainstorm on it, we see it as blackhole of eng
> effort WRT to keeping them in sync and and then waiting for TTLs to cut an
> entire del
by chance -
anyone have a clueful contact at the detroit pistons who can help resolve
an https MITM proxy problem? (likely a misconfigured watchguard.)
trying to diagnose a proxy level certificate problem through a management
level proxy is less than fun.
On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, Owen DeLong wrote:
Given that 10.7 is fairly ancient at this point
I know, right? 2.5 years old is -ancient-
. o O ( sigh )
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On Thu, 11 Jul 2013, Randy Bush wrote:
their xo peering. i guess the root cause is that roadrunner is poorly
peered. are they not actually twt?
Nope. TWT vs TWC.
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On Thu, 13 Jun 2013, Phil Fagan wrote:
I've always wondered about thatwould you know that the Huawei is
leaking data?
the puddle on the floor isn't a giveaway?
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xx is, and how you'd fill
that out for just a single ip addresssigh), the snowball really won't
happen until it Just Works(tm). impe and all that.
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Internet users to successfully
transition to IPv6 could harm our operations and the functioning of
the Internet as a whole.
ours doesn't. at least not the may '12 AR
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On Wed, 6 Feb 2013, Jay Ashworth wrote:
- Original Message -
From: "david raistrick"
sure would be nice if the nanog meetings were a bit better
announcedwhy do I aways find out about the orlando ones during or
after?
I hadn't realized there was another one in
's still a ton of new and old stuff to build w/o v6
support from our internal or external vendors.
...david
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art of the
application stack from the part that the developer is building his code
in. So really and truly most software is written by developers who can
barely plug and play their home networks, much less actually understand
what dhcp means.
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at one could state "I thought of it, company
did not want it".
funnily enough that's -exactly- what I've been doing for the last 3 years.
So, until it comes down from the top, the company doesn't want it.
...david (who is not a developer and is a network engi
, PSN, facebook, twitter,
google, etc on a test network?
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before, nor 2
(or 3) client frameworks.
...david (who supports a bunch of software engineers for one of many arms
of an F500 company)
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read. but is it really any
different than any other?)
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n the entirely AWS
toolkit that supports working across multiple regions at all sanely (that
would be ec2-migrate-bundle, btw), I'd agree. Amazon has put nearly zero
thought into multiple site outages or how their customer base could
leverage the multiple sites (regions) operated by AWS.
tages.
I know nothing of the netflix side of it - but that's what -we- saw. (and
that caused all us-east RDS instances in every AZ to appear offline..)
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st of it is up to the hardware provider (Amazon, in
this case).
..david (who also relies on outsourced hardware these days)
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rvice..
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ajiggy
that their socket handling code runs they don't have access to the
resolvers - so they have to store them at startup (see haproxy).
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t fixed is get[hostbyname,addrinfo,etc] so
programmers have better tools.
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t fixed is get[hostbyname,addrinfo,etc] so
programmers have better tools.
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...d (who is not exactly the former though I've played one for TV, and not
at all the later)
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you forgot to read the SLA? Or you can show us where someone
defines "Cloud" as "highly available" and "without indefinite downtime" ?
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On Sat, 18 Feb 2012, Pierre-Yves Maunier wrote:
6 - plastic cable clamps (don't know the exact english term for that but I
mean this -->
http://www.hellopro.fr/images/produit-2/9/3/8/serre-cables-261839.jpg)
also known as "zip tie" or "plastic cable tie" more gene
after a few years outdoors in florida) like the brother junk does.
I think my megadeluxewithacase model cost about $100 from provantage...
:)
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g RTS frames at once.
unless, of course, that's the concept you are trying to prove...? :)
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o the NAP to feed our southern customers
their dose of WCQ...)
...david
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20:02 2011 UTC...
I don't run any authoritative or exposed caches at the moment, and the aka
NXDOMAINs are the only thing we've been seeing dropouts on for the past
~48 hours, but we did see NXDOMAINs from a bunch of amazonaws hostnames
over the holidays...
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esponse. there is a nanog-jobs list, but it
has had effectively zero traffic
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o
ip routing" (or "no ip forwarding" is my memory, but my config archive
says otherwise)
so we had default to deny in routers for a long time
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lando survives. ;)
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government.
urg. obNetops anyone? not sure nanog is really the place to arm bears
and bare arms
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On Thu, 2 Jun 2011, Bill Woodcock wrote:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2533454/
Uh...
snicker. snicker. lol. rofl. "we'll fix our ipv6 support by, well, not
using it!"
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not an experience I care to repeat. ;-)
Today, I make video games. MUCH more fun! (who knew, content CAN be fun)
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el multicast infrastructure, so I'm fully aware of what magic is
really involved in maintaining it across divergent networks that -WE-
owned (or could exercise control of). before that streaming 40Gb/s (~200
channels of unicast video for general consumers + on demand streams)
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ustom written or is already done (with some
hacks of course :). So really what i'm looking for is something along the
we use both gd (in php and in perl and in c++) and google's graphing magic
in various places. http://code.google.com/apis/chart/
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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011, david raistrick wrote:
Amazon AWS - "No." But I'm asking again, that's a few months old.
To follow up on this:
"We are investigating IP v6 but, unfortunately, have no plans that are
available for sharing at present"
those markets...but even still, I had sub 6 figure budgets to build with -
I certainly had no leverage).
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nd at what point during that time did they have any vendor gear they
could purchase that -would- support v6? At -best- during the last 5
years, but I'd put money on that even today they can't purchase gear with
adequate v6 support.
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CGNAT? Google results for this are either unrelated
or "CGNAT will save us" or "CGNAT doesnt count" - no rfcs, no
explainations, nothing
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magic here!
sigh
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Everyone doesn't suddenly get "owned" because there isn't a external
firewall. Modern OS's default to secure.
We clearly live and work in different worlds. Not to mention that "we"
are not the average consumers anymore. We were, in the days before NA
Well, I take that back.
Amazon AWS - "No." But I'm asking again, that's a few months old.
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sn't trying to "announce" itself - and
imo, applications that want to "announce" themselves seem like a
pretty big security hole.
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Jimmy Hess wrote:
SOCKS5 can be used to forward any TCP based protocol, and most UDP
protocols,
Because SOCKS didn't break things worse than NAT? Really?
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case, bring it on! :)
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ir neighbors website running on their
neighbors computer if the neighbor didn't make an effort to make their
computer a server (by assigning DNS, running server software, etc)
regardless of NAT etc etc.
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kbone provider reject IBM or ATT or HP or Apple, etc?
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n exercise for the reader to figure out that was magiced
around without requiring the NAT devices to do anything. and ssl doesn't
count. :)
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ing DNS, waited for all
traffic to move over, removed the old addresses, and we were done.
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Chris Owen wrote:
On Feb 2, 2011, at 3:09 PM, david raistrick wrote:
At least in ARIN territory, if you're multihomed, and you can show
in-1-year use of 50% of a (v4) /24, you qualify for a PI v6 /48.
One of the things I find frustrating about this is the cost o
those
of you who were thinking of using NAT with v6, how does that effect your
plans?
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es his own authorative and recursive DNS servers that
are used specificly for our group's purposes that have to coexist with
IT-managed servers)
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7;ve changed providers? Why should
we have to renumber devices at my mom's house just because she switched
from cable to dsl?
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it's a "feature" that some groups of
users have come to require.
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tools they find useful because we do not like them.
Not to mention that when you take tools -away- from people that solve an
existing problem, you'll get a lot of pushback.
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nt. Instead of
discussing "how can the next generation addressing scheme support the
needs of Internet consumers today and tomorrow" we tell people "if you
don't like it, use v4"
Guess what? We're still using v4.
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here's the original quote (which a friend had pasted to me):
"Web developers have tried to compensate for this problem by creating IPv6
-- a system that recognizes six-digit IP addresses rather than four-digit
ones."
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, david raistrick wrote:
On Thu, 2
sses"
"But IPv6 isn't backwards-compatible with IPv4, meaning that it's not able
to read most content that operates on an IPv4 system. At best, the user
experience will be clunky and slow. At worst, instead of a webpage, all
users will be able to view is a blank page.&quo
ingle-focus-software
for things like this. ;)
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On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
freebsd + varnish + carp (http://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/carp.html)
two of the three won't work @ EC2 (for my purposes, no idea about the
original poster - but he did ask about DNS based solutions so I suspect
he's in a similar boat)
depends on it.
On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Charles N Wyble wrote:
Ha-proxy and linux virtual server are popular packages.
Neither of these do DNS. He asked about DNS based loadbalancing (also
known as GSLB, among other things) software packages
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On Tue, 18 Jan 2011, Jack Bates wrote:
On 1/18/2011 1:42 PM, david raistrick wrote:
Normally, VRRP would be the way to go. But these days multicast isn't
supported everywhere (major example - Amazon EC2), leaving DNS...
Many HA environments use both, and F5 is designed to do
supported everywhere (major example - Amazon EC2), leaving DNS...
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ble - try doing that @ EC2, for
example (which is why I've recently been on the hunt for GSLB solutions
that don't involve appliances...).
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.
Paying for 1u of colo justifys a keycard for you, cameras and keycard
hardware for the facility? you're paying what, 50-100$ a month, maybe
less? you realize that low prices comes at the cost of reduced services?
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tered inside access of 1 internal IP if you NAT all external ports to
an internal IP.
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ared space for
providers providing service) would be an exception, of course.
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gnal.
inside datacenters, basements, and telco huts, though, were not places
that good signal was often available....
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es
arrive in the tubes for those end users to recieve...
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es@ though (depending on who you ask,
of course)
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ardant hat installed firmly]
So what's the IPV6 solution for PCI compliance, where 1.3.8 requires the
use of RFC1918 space? Admitedly, it's been a year or two since I last had
to engineer around that particular set of rules...but it's life or death
for a lot of folks.
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, speaking with my content hat on, we stick with unicast.
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have extensive control of the
-entire- end to end IP network, it will be significantly broken
significant amounts of the time.
...david (former member of a team of engineers who built and maintained a
220,000 seat multicast video network)
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On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, david raistrick wrote:
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote:
No, the majority does not define what "operational" means. Facebook is
not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power
not a mission critical internet resource -to you-
to b
On Wed, 6 Oct 2010, Andrew Kirch wrote:
No, the majority does not define what "operational" means. Facebook is
not a mission critical internet resource (such as a fiber cut, power
not a mission critical internet resource -to you-
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regain productivity?
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se service providers also make their money from facebook
consumers....)
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book games doesn't make a facebook
outage any less operationally relevant than, say, an akamai or limelight
outage.
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require
facebook)
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ork for us) last year.
OTOH, Raptor's "virtual chassis" magic (while it has its own issues...)
didn't have these problems. :)
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x27;m sure it's getting better, but as recently as 2 years ago it was
near impossible to get for most areas (and most providers, and most colo
facilities).
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their meshAP project...
http://www.wiana.org/faq.php
random data point from memory.
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urther hot/cold seperation is entirely possible, too, to support higher
densities...
Personally I'm not a fan of using raised floor for a cold air plenum for
reasons I'm not inclined to go into right now. :)
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, david raistrick wrote:
I got -fired- my first day after explaining why using proxy servers spread
I should note that I was asked what I'd do with that type of setup, and
assumed it was either a hypothetical situation or something that they were
looking to address
to "present" websites from different IP addresses a) did
nothing to help their search result rankings and b) was a complete waste
of resources.
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lcove and Progress,
destroyed my formerly reasonable opinion of L3 as they suddenly became the
monopoly player in my town and were completely unable to deliver or
maintain anything. later issues in L3's own Gateway facilities further
enforced my low opinion of them]
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a VOM, or perhaps I'm full of sh!t.
I didn't expect this to generate such an uproar...but I forgot this is
nanog. ;-)
.d
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for neutral, that's like arguing bonded vs
unbonded panels.
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solves the problem."
No, this does NOT present 208v at a 5-15R. Don't believe me, buy one and
put a voltmeter across it.
I'll leave the FUD to others.
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gnoring the fact that for drill charging at least
there's usually house power available, but crash carts need these...)
C14 (M) to 5-15 (F) adaptor cable:
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?edc=1036852
I also use them to run wall warts, etc, as needed.
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before you build and can -try-
to build to suite. But most times, the SLAs are signed after you've
built, and everyone just crosses their fingers.
IME.
..david
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also our first
layer of network troubleshooting, and they monitored everything related to
the products they supported.They were almost always the first to call
the engineers (in .us and .ca) to alert them of issues.
It's all about /what/ you hire them to do.
...david
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e? Why was that functionality broken after they started
peering?
They purchased transit (through NTT I believe) for connectivity to sprint.
They removed that, because their goal has been to be transit-free.
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[EMA
ations and other PNAPs via our Level3 (AS3356) upstream
connection in the MIA003 PNAP. "
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for us, of course).
offlist please.
.d
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