Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread Alex
While most of the people are trying to save the internet from any form of "goverment" and let it be free, this would be like shooting yourself in the foot. This would be great for troubleshooting things...I agree, but other than that it would create a whole new plethora of privacy concerns. We

RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread Dave Edelman
This is the first reasonable, rational, and well-defined argument for not making the transition to IPv6. As to someone's question about "Are you a terrorist?" If there is such a construct as a transitive noun, then this might qualify. People rarely describe themselves as terrorists, typically non

Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread David Conrad
Please don't feed the bigoted hypocritical trolls. Regards, -drc On Nov 25, 2012, at 8:28 PM, Randy wrote: > Just because it is from Iraq; does NOT mean by any streach of the imagination > that OP is a terrorist! > You need to get outside the box you are living in and learn to separate the >

RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread Christopher Rogers
I agree, this is entirely unacceptable discourse for nanog. Maybe you should take a closer look at your Ephesians quote there, Mister 'IPdog.' -chris From: Randy [randy_94...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2012 20:28 To: Network IPdog Cc: nanog@n

RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread Randy
Just because it is from Iraq; does NOT mean by any streach of the imagination that OP is a terrorist! You need to get outside the box you are living in and learn to separate the forest from the trees! You are "entitled" to you private-opinions. Don't post said-garbage on NANOG! I do take except

Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 11/25/12, William Herrin wrote: > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Ammar Salih > wrote: > Geographic-based layer 3 routing has been thoroughly discussed on the > IRTF RRG and just as thoroughly rejected. It's wholly inadequate as an > approximation for topographic locality within the network g

RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread Randy
WHAT??? Is this the extent to which This-List has DEGENERATED??? How dare you make such a horrendous accusation Sir? You may NOT like what OP has proposed. I don't either for more reasons than one! However, YOU are neither qualified NOR authorised to ask such an appallingly INSENSITIVE Questio

RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread Network IPdog
Et al, There is one simple question that needs to be asked! Ammar Salih @ ammar.sa...@auis.edu.iq Are you a terrorist? Ephesians 4:32 & Cheers!!! A password is like a... toothbrush ;^) Choose a good one, change it regularly and don't share it. -Original Message- From: John Ad

Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread John Adams
Your proposal doesn't even give people a way to encrypt their location data; By moving geodata to a portion of the protocol which is not covered by commonly used encryption methods (i.e. HTTPS, which is up a few layers in the stack) people can't be protected should this data be monitored by a mali

Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 12:08:15PM -0500, William Herrin wrote: > On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Ammar Salih wrote: > > 2- Layer 7 will not be detected by layer 3 devices (routers) .. so > > location-based service on layer-3 will not be possible. > > Geographic-based layer 3 routing has been th

Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread William Herrin
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Ammar Salih wrote: > 2- Layer 7 will not be detected by layer 3 devices (routers) .. so > location-based service on layer-3 will not be possible. Geographic-based layer 3 routing has been thoroughly discussed on the IRTF RRG and just as thoroughly rejected. It's w

Call for Presentations: NANOG 57 in Orlando, FL

2012-11-25 Thread David Temkin
Just a friendly reminder that the RFP for NANOG 57 is approaching in just over two weeks. Best Regards, -Dave Temkin On Nov 8, 2012, at 11:48 AM, David Temkin wrote: > NANOG Community, > > I know that we all just left Dallas after NANOG 56, but the NANOG Program > Committee is already hard a

Re: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 25/11/2012 02:02, Michael Butler wrote: > In a number of jurisdictions and particularly in the EU, IP addresses > themselves (any version) are considered Personally Identifiable > Information (PII) and are expected/required to be protected as such. actually no. The EU Article 29 Data Protectio

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-25 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration Date: Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 04:29:15AM + Quoting Dobbins, Roland (rdobb...@arbor.net): > > On Nov 25, 2012, at 10:09 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: > > > from goeff huston's data they have more v6 at home. > > And not purposely, either - because

RE: Adding GPS location to IPv6 header

2012-11-25 Thread Ammar Salih
Thank you everyone, I appreciate your feedback and will try to summarize few points in one email to avoid duplication .. apologies if I missed any. > This is not data that should be sent on every packet. It becomes redundant. 1- It does not have to be in every IPv6 header, only when there

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-25 Thread Phil Regnauld
joel jaeggli (joelja) writes: > On 11/24/12 8:29 PM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: > >On Nov 25, 2012, at 10:09 AM, joel jaeggli wrote: > > > >>from goeff huston's data they have more v6 at home. > >And not purposely, either - because it's enabled by default on recent client > >OSes. My guess is that a