Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Jimmy Hess
On 4/25/12, Jack Bates wrote: > On 4/25/2012 10:31 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> There is nothing whatsoever wrong with providing the information to >> ARIN under NDA. ARIN provides a very good (IMHO) plain English mutual -- > Sure, and small ISP techs immediately think of NDAs when talking to > ARIN.

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Jack Bates
This is the first time I've seen ARIN request actual individual names. I've had them requests SWIP and I've had them request exact user counts, and I generally get much larger allocations than what was being allocated. In addition, all their numbers matched up with all of my numbers and the all

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread John Curran
On Apr 25, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Andy Susag wrote: > We just recently "wrastled" with ARIN to get a whopping /22 from them, > it wasn't very easy. > > Keeping record of what you have allocated downstream is important and I > totally agree with ARIN insisting this be done. Luckily as long as you > ha

Re: RPKI production support on Cisco, also EFT

2012-04-25 Thread Mark Andrews
Alex, please get your postmaster to FIX the AV software so that it emits a valid Content-Transfer-Encoding for multipart/mixed. Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="61eecb4035fc4e8de429abf6d62cd728" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable drugs:~/git/bind9] marka% show (

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
"Andy Susag" writes: > Seems kind of counterproductive to ARIN though. I wouldn't think they'd > like a database full of fudged SWIP info, but I guess they're OK with > it... They require an officer attestation. SWIP info that is made up out of whole cloth sounds suspiciously like fraud to me,

RE: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Andy Susag
We just recently "wrastled" with ARIN to get a whopping /22 from them, it wasn't very easy. Keeping record of what you have allocated downstream is important and I totally agree with ARIN insisting this be done. Luckily as long as you have an address, customer name, and a contact, you can issue r

admin for fixedorbit.com

2012-04-25 Thread Kyle Creyts
The contact form appears to be down (503 bad gateway on submit), and if it is actively maintained, I would be very interested in talking to someone about how it works, and how its path tracing simulations or estimates compare with real-world numbers. (or if it is driven by real world numbers, how i

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Kenneth McRae
No I am speaking about my previous positons with large providers, telco, etc. On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 9:09 AM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote: > On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Kenneth McRae < > kenneth.mc...@dreamhost.com> wrote: > >> I have never provided the names of end users.. How the address spa

Re: internap route server/looking glass?

2012-04-25 Thread chip
Surewhatcha need? Or feel free to email n...@internap.com and they'll be glad to help. If not, the beatings will commence! --chip On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 2:37 PM, David Hubbard wrote: > Anyone know of, or have access to, a route server on > Internap's (AS 12180) network?  Trying to make s

internap route server/looking glass?

2012-04-25 Thread David Hubbard
Anyone know of, or have access to, a route server on Internap's (AS 12180) network? Trying to make sure a specific advertisement is being seen. Thanks, David

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, -Hammer- wrote: Killing me softly Owen The difference is subtle, but important. jms

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread -Hammer-
Killing me softly Owen -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer On 4/25/2012 1:15 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: Nope... You paid for and received registration services for a block of IP Addresses. Anyone can use those integers for many purposes, but, only you are registered to use

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Owen DeLong
Nope... You paid for and received registration services for a block of IP Addresses. Anyone can use those integers for many purposes, but, only you are registered to use them as topological identifiers on the internet according to ARIN and the other RIRs. Owen On Apr 25, 2012, at 10:59 AM, -Ha

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread -Hammer-
Sorry everyone. Bad choice of words. I simply meant they have their money and we have our allocation. Stand down. Move along. Nothing to see here. -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer On 4/25/2012 11:55 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: No, you didn't. You may have completed the acquis

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread -Hammer-
purchase/lease/rent/titlepawn/etc. We paid for and got a block of IPs. -Hammer- "I was a normal American nerd" -Jack Herer On 4/25/2012 11:13 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:54:39 -0500, -Hammer- said: I can say that I recently completed the purchase of a large IPv

RE: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Richey
I got a new allocation about 18 months ago. I sent them a spread sheet of the users and their current IPs. I changed the real customer name to something that reflected what business they were in. So I had lots of "Hotel Customer 1" and "Dr. Office 112" with what IPs they were using. There was no

Re: Juniper MX expert?

2012-04-25 Thread Randy Carpenter
Thanks everyone for all the responses. They were extremely helpful. -Randy - Original Message - > > Any Juniper MX experts out there want to do some quick consulting for > me (not for free)? > > I am working on implementing a couple of MX5 routers in a service > provider setting, and

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Owen DeLong
No, you didn't. You may have completed the acquisition of a large IPv6 block, but you did not purchase it. Number resources are not property and cannot be bought and/or sold. What you pay to ARIN pays for registration services (the registration of the numbers, not the numbers themselves). While

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:54:39 -0500, -Hammer- said: > I can say that I recently completed the purchase of a large IPv6 block. "purchase"??!? pgpMtR5JcMTNK.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Kenneth McRae wrote: > I have never provided the names of end users.. How the address space > would be utilized? Definitely.. But not the names of end users... > Probably because you are an "end user". If you're talking about AS26347, I don't think there is any

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Chuck Anderson wrote: RWHOIS is a perfectly valid alternative to SWIP. Can a downstream ISP SWIP records if their upstream ISP uses RWHOIS for the block that is further delegated to that downstream ISP? I would think so, but it might also depend on how the space is deleg

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread -Hammer-
I can say that I recently completed the purchase of a large IPv6 block. We've had several large V4 blocks for years and got them with very little effort. For this block, we had to provide a detailed list of all our physical locations as well as how the IP schema would be utilized. I also had to

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012, Kenneth McRae wrote: I have never provided the names of end users.. How the address space would be utilized? Definitely.. But not the names of end users... When I worked at an ISP, we provided the names of companies to whom we assigned address space, but not individual

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 08:28:35AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: > > On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:23 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > > > > > ad...@thecpaneladmin.com wrote: > >> Anyone have any tips for getting IPs from ARIN? For an end-user > >> allocation they are requesting that we provide customer names f

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Kenneth McRae
I have never provided the names of end users.. How the address space would be utilized? Definitely.. But not the names of end users... On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: > There is not a new policy added on to prevent hoarding. What is required > is what > has been required f

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Owen DeLong
There is not a new policy added on to prevent hoarding. What is required is what has been required for several years. Utilization information and proper justification. If you are seeking an ISP allocation, then, reassignment (customer) information is in fact part of that utilization information.

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Owen DeLong
On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Jack Bates wrote: > On 4/24/2012 2:00 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> I know that the ARIN process can, on occasion be tricky to navigate if you >> don't >> understand the subtleties of how some of the terminology is defined and that >> people >> often use terms which hav

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Owen DeLong
On Apr 25, 2012, at 3:23 AM, Joe Maimon wrote: > > > ad...@thecpaneladmin.com wrote: >> Anyone have any tips for getting IPs from ARIN? For an end-user >> allocation they are requesting that we provide customer names for >> existing allocations, which is information that will take a while to >>

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Kenneth McRae
Negative.. I have never had to provide end user information. I have been required to provide utilization information. I am sure this "policy" is and add-on to make it more difficult to prevent hoarding.. On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Lassoff wrote: > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:32

Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN

2012-04-25 Thread Joe Maimon
ad...@thecpaneladmin.com wrote: Anyone have any tips for getting IPs from ARIN? For an end-user allocation they are requesting that we provide customer names for existing allocations, which is information that will take a while to obtain. They are insisting that this is standard process and som

RPKI production support on Cisco, also EFT

2012-04-25 Thread Alex Band
I didn't see any post on this topic here, so I just want to mention that RPKI is officially supported on these Cisco platforms: ASR1000, 7600, ASR903 and ASR901 – releases are 15.2(1)S or XE 3.5. Early Field Trial is available for the following platforms (contact bduvivie at cisco dot com): ASR9