On Apr 24, 2012, at 9:57 PM, Jack Bates wrote: > On 4/24/2012 2:00 PM, Owen DeLong wrote: >> I know that the ARIN process can, on occasion be tricky to navigate if you >> don't >> understand the subtleties of how some of the terminology is defined and that >> people >> often use terms which have very specific meanings to ARIN staff members to >> have >> a much broader meaning in what they are intending to say. I know that often >> leads >> to misunderstandings which make the process even more difficult. > > Yeah. Let's not forget that if you have 120 management devices (wifi > backhaul/switches/waps) and a ton of customers with /32 assignments and you > are renumbering from provider assigned space you gathered over many years > into your own initial ARIN assignment, they want: > > 1. equipment type and info for each management device > 2. customer info for each /32 assignment > > Tell me what ISP can legally and ethically give out their customer base > information? Don't get me wrong. I'm sure small guys don't think twice about > it, accumulating all the information and handing it over to ARIN thinking > they have no choice (the responses from ARIN leaves one with that impression; > you want the address space, you WILL give us this). >
There is nothing whatsoever wrong with providing the information to ARIN under NDA. ARIN provides a very good (IMHO) plain English mutual NDA for just this purpose. What rational ethical ISP fails to include a provision for this process in their TOS? > I sometimes wonder what happens to that information; if it sits around in an > archive somewhere in the vast digital repositories of ARIN awaiting someone > to steal it. That's a very cynical view. I happen to know that ARIN takes the security of that data very seriously and I think they do a good job of protecting it. If you have any reason to believe otherwise, I invite you to offer some form of substantiation to support such a claim. Owen
