Sorry everyone. Bad choice of words. I simply meant they have their
money and we have our allocation.
Stand down. Move along. Nothing to see here.
-Hammer-
"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer
On 4/25/2012 11:55 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
No, you didn't. You may have completed the acquisition of a large IPv6 block,
but you did not purchase it.
Number resources are not property and cannot be bought and/or sold.
What you pay to ARIN pays for registration services (the registration of the
numbers, not the numbers themselves). While I realize that in practice this may
seem like a distinction without a difference, there are major legal and
practical implications to this fact that are quite important to the very
underpinnings of how the internet works.
Owen
On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:54 AM, -Hammer- wrote:
I can say that I recently completed the purchase of a large IPv6 block. We've
had several large V4 blocks for years and got them with very little effort. For
this block, we had to provide a detailed list of all our physical locations as
well as how the IP schema would be utilized. I also had to provide site
drawings (scrubbed visios) showing my topology layout to justify my additional
ASNs. It was not a harsh ordeal. ARIN was very professional about it. But it
was a lot more paperwork than what I've needed in the past. None of it seemed
unreasonable. We just had to work out NDAs and whatnot so I could share more
detailed information with them.
-Hammer-
"I was a normal American nerd"
-Jack Herer
On 4/25/2012 10:34 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
There is not a new policy added on to prevent hoarding. What is required is what
has been required for several years. Utilization information and proper
justification.
If you are seeking an ISP allocation, then, reassignment (customer) information
is
in fact part of that utilization information.
Owen
On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Kenneth McRae wrote:
Negative.. I have never had to provide end user information. I have been
required to provide utilization information. I am sure this "policy" is
and add-on to make it more difficult to prevent hoarding..
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Lassoff<j...@thejof.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM,<ad...@thecpaneladmin.com> wrote:
Anyone have any tips for getting IPs from ARIN? For an end-user
allocation
they are requesting that we provide customer names for existing
allocations,
which is information that will take a while to obtain. They are insisting
that this is standard process and something that everyone does when
requesting IPs. Has anyone actually had to do this?
Indeed. It's worked this way for a long time.
When starting a new organization, there's a bit of a chicken and egg
problem with IP space. If anyone could get IP space just for asking
for it, it would have been consumed too quickly. So, organizations
must first get some space assigned to them from an upstream provider
and begin using it.
At some point the current usage and growth rate of the assigned space
will justify a direct allocation.
Then, you can renumber into your new space and be totally independent.
Cheers,
jof
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Best Regards,
Kenneth McRae
*Sr. Network Engineer*
kenneth.mc...@dreamhost.com
Ph: 323-375-3814
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