We just recently "wrastled" with ARIN to get a whopping /22 from them, it wasn't very easy.
Keeping record of what you have allocated downstream is important and I totally agree with ARIN insisting this be done. Luckily as long as you have an address, customer name, and a contact, you can issue reassign simples to hostmaster. You don't have to walk your customers through creating POCs and ORG-IDs. When you issue a reassign simple, it will automatically create all that. As long as your allocations are 80% full, you should be able to make a request. You might not get what you want though. Seems kind of counterproductive to ARIN though. I wouldn't think they'd like a database full of fudged SWIP info, but I guess they're OK with it... -----Original Message----- From: Richey [mailto:myli...@battleop.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 13:21 To: 'Kenneth McRae'; 'Owen DeLong' Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN I got a new allocation about 18 months ago. I sent them a spread sheet of the users and their current IPs. I changed the real customer name to something that reflected what business they were in. So I had lots of "Hotel Customer 1" and "Dr. Office 112" with what IPs they were using. There was no way we were going to release a complete customer list to anyone. They didn't seem to have a problem with this. Richey -----Original Message----- From: Kenneth McRae [mailto:kenneth.mc...@dreamhost.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 11:46 AM To: Owen DeLong Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Squeezing IPs out of ARIN I have never provided the names of end users.. How the address space would be utilized? Definitely.. But not the names of end users... On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:34 AM, Owen DeLong <o...@delong.com> wrote: > There is not a new policy added on to prevent hoarding. What is > required is what has been required for several years. Utilization > information and proper justification. > > If you are seeking an ISP allocation, then, reassignment (customer) > information is in fact part of that utilization information. > > Owen > > On Apr 25, 2012, at 8:22 AM, Kenneth McRae wrote: > > > Negative.. I have never had to provide end user information. I > > have > been > > required to provide utilization information. I am sure this > > "policy" is and add-on to make it more difficult to prevent hoarding.. > > > > On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Lassoff <j...@thejof.com> > wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:32 AM, <ad...@thecpaneladmin.com> wrote: > >>> Anyone have any tips for getting IPs from ARIN? For an end-user > >> allocation > >>> they are requesting that we provide customer names for existing > >> allocations, > >>> which is information that will take a while to obtain. They are > insisting > >>> that this is standard process and something that everyone does > >>> when requesting IPs. Has anyone actually had to do this? > >> > >> Indeed. It's worked this way for a long time. > >> > >> When starting a new organization, there's a bit of a chicken and > >> egg problem with IP space. If anyone could get IP space just for > >> asking for it, it would have been consumed too quickly. So, > >> organizations must first get some space assigned to them from an > >> upstream provider and begin using it. > >> At some point the current usage and growth rate of the assigned > >> space will justify a direct allocation. > >> > >> Then, you can renumber into your new space and be totally independent. > >> > >> Cheers, > >> jof > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Kenneth McRae > > *Sr. Network Engineer* > > kenneth.mc...@dreamhost.com > > Ph: 323-375-3814 > > www.dreamhost.com > > -- Best Regards, Kenneth McRae *Sr. Network Engineer* kenneth.mc...@dreamhost.com Ph: 323-375-3814 www.dreamhost.com
