> Subject: Re: CRS-3
> From: David Conrad
> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 23:06:39 -0800
>
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote:
> >> Anyone have any idea how much a fully configured CRS-3 would cost?
> > Admittedly, my information on these topics comes from NPR these
days. :-)
> >
> >
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, David Conrad wrote:
Anyone have any idea how much a fully configured CRS-3 would cost? Or
how much power it would consume? Or how much heat it would generate?
Power is fairly easy, you need somewhere in the order of 14kW per rack (at
least you need to provision that much
On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, Paul Ferguson wrote:
>> Anyone have any idea how much a fully configured CRS-3 would cost?
> Admittedly, my information on these topics comes from NPR these days. :-)
>
> They said it costs ~US$90k, and that AT&T was in trails.
Somehow, I'm skeptical (not of the tr
Cisco did 100GE before, based upon the 802.3ba:
http://www.10gea.org/100-ge-router-cisco-comcast.htm
The 'wow' factor in this is news might be that these new linecards are
nonblocking and will eventually support the final standard without hardware
changes.
Arjan
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On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:42 PM, David Conrad wrote:
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Crooks, Sam wrote:
>> "Spend the GDP of a small nation on a single box!"
>
> I'll admit to being too lazy to dig through and/or translate the
> marketspeak.
>
> Anyone
On Mar 9, 2010, at 8:47 PM, Crooks, Sam wrote:
> "Spend the GDP of a small nation on a single box!"
I'll admit to being too lazy to dig through and/or translate the marketspeak.
Anyone have any idea how much a fully configured CRS-3 would cost? Or how much
power it would consume? Or how much h
On 3/9/2010 9:19 PM, Rubens Kuhl wrote:
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Brian Feeny wrote:
So who is going to be the first to deploy these?
http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html
- Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second
- Stream every motion picture ever
I fail to see how using linksys's range of products is going to be comparable
to enterprise grade cisco gear. Well, your average consumer wouldn't be
involved with a CRS or for that matter, anything that remotely resembles a CRS.
Not sure why you'd pull the consumer market into this marketing
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Brian Feeny wrote:
>
> So who is going to be the first to deploy these?
>
> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html
>
>
> - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second
> - Stream every motion picture ever created in less than four minu
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010, Matthew Petach wrote:
/me sits back patiently and waits for CRS-5, then...[1]
CRS-3 is ~3 times as fast as CRS-1, so I guess the next iteration will be
CRS-12 and then CRS-36, CRS-108 (perhaps CRS-100 just to make it easy).
:P
--
Mikael Abrahamssonemail: swm...@swm.
"Spend the GDP of a small nation on a single box!"
> -Original Message-
> From: Brian Feeny [mailto:bfe...@mac.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:51 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org list
> Subject: CRS-3
>
>
> So who is going to be the first to deploy these?
>
> http://newsroom.cisco.com/
On 3/9/2010 7:20 PM, John Peach wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:00:45 -0500
> Tim Sanderson wrote:
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Hi Tim:
On 3/9/10 5:00 PM, "Tim Sanderson" wrote:
> Currently have T1 aggregation on some Cisco 7206VXR routers. Core switches and
> data center gateways on a couple of Cisco 6509's. Looking for a model that
> could collapse both functions into just two devices, one being for hardware
> redunda
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:00:45 -0500
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> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Durack
> Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:39 PM
> To: Brian Feeny
> > Subject: Re: CRS-3
>
> "This intelligence also includes carrier-grade IPv6 (CGv6)"
>
> Can't wait to find out what this is.
"accelerating the delivery of compelling new experiences"
On 03/09/2010 08:00 PM, Tim Sanderson wrote:
Currently have T1 aggregation on some Cisco 7206VXR routers. Core switches
and data center gateways on a couple of Cisco 6509's. Looking for a model
that could collapse both functions into just two devices, one being for
hardware redundancy. Any recom
Currently have T1 aggregation on some Cisco 7206VXR routers. Core switches and
data center gateways on a couple of Cisco 6509's. Looking for a model that
could collapse both functions into just two devices, one being for hardware
redundancy. Any recommendations on a good L3 switch that is also a
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Express Web Systems
wrote:
>> Wow what?
>>
>> Is there anything in the CRS-3 that competitors are not shipping _today_?
>>
>> If you look at some startups, they are doing 4-5 times as many Gbps per
> slot,
>> and pre-release equipment is in use in some networks alr
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 18:45 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any errors.
>
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 17:31, Jake Khuon wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:02 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> >> On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote:
> >>> On Tue, 2010-03-0
> It's called doing the "wall street dance". Their stock price jumped 3%
> yesterday in anticipation of the "big" announcement. Hype is hype, and
> people still remember the magic of the dotcom bubble. "ZOMG! They increased
> the size of the tubez! BUY! BUY!"
>
> [full disclosure: I own stock in Ci
Sent from my iPhone, please excuse any errors.
On Mar 9, 2010, at 17:31, Jake Khuon wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:02 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote:
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
The only "wow" here is "wow, why
No one ever got fired for buying Cisco?
(This isn't true btw -- I know of people that did get fired for buying Cisco.
Just saying...)
J
On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>
>> The only "wow" here is "wow, why did cisc
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 17:02 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> >
> >> The only "wow" here is "wow, why did cisco hype how far behind they
> >> are?"
> >
> > Because in some organisatio
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Jake Khuon wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 20:22 +, deles...@gmail.com wrote:
>> What happened to CRS-2? :)
>
> It exploded and was destroyed during construction. Parts of it were
> also recycled to build the next CRS. |8^)
/me sits back patiently and waits fo
On Tue, Mar 09, 2010 at 05:02:01PM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote:
> > On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> >
> >> The only "wow" here is "wow, why did cisco hype how far behind they
> >> are?"
> >
> > Because in some orga
It only supported IPv5. :)
Scott
[1]deles...@gmail.com wrote:
What happened to CRS-2? :)
--Original Message--
From: Robert Enger - NANOG
To: David Hubbard
Cc: [2]na...@nanog.org
Subject: Re: CRS-3
Sent: Mar 9, 2010 4:20 PM
Forget Linksys: Didn't Peter Lothberg's mom have a CRS
On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:36 PM, Jake Khuon wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
>
>> The only "wow" here is "wow, why did cisco hype how far behind they
>> are?"
>
> Because in some organisations, the only vendor that matters is Cisco.
Then why bother hyping at all?
It's teh future of the tubes! Didn't you get the memo?
Nah, actually it is just hardware assisted SP-wide NAT... See:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps6537/ps6553/white_paper_c11-558744-00_ns1017_Networking_Solutions_White_Paper.html
Cisco believes that this is the (intermed
On 9. mars 2010, at 22.39, Tim Durack wrote:
> "This intelligence also includes carrier-grade IPv6 (CGv6)"
>
> Can't wait to find out what this is.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/iosswrel/ps6537/ps6553/white_paper_c11-558744-00_ns1017_Networking_Solutions_White_Paper.html
--
Joachim
On 3/9/2010 4:39 PM, Tim Durack wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Brian Feeny wrote:
>>
>> So who is going to be the first to deploy these?
>>
>> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html
>>
>>
>> - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second
>> - Stream every m
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Brian Feeny wrote:
>
> So who is going to be the first to deploy these?
>
> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html
>
>
> - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second
> - Stream every motion picture ever created in less than four minu
Yes, and their stock price dipped today after the news release actually hit.
So remember people, buy on rumor, sell on news.
Brian
On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:41 PM, Express Web Systems wrote:
>> Wow what?
>>
>> Is there anything in the CRS-3 that competitors are not shipping _today_?
>>
>> If
Renaming the 6500? Nice one, let's call it 7600 then :-)
Arjan
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From: bas [mailto:kilo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tue 3/9/2010 9:33 PM
To: Brian Feeny
Cc: nanog@nanog.org list
Subject: Re: CRS-3
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Brian Feeny wrote
> If nothing else you gotta l
On 09/03/2010 18:54, John Lightfoot wrote:
> Can anyone tell me how to get the beta 64 bit client? Thanks.
> http://tools.cisco.com/support/downloads/go/ImageList.x?relVer=5.0.7+Beta&mdfid=281940730&sftType=VPN+Client+Software&optPlat=Windows
Nick
I've done some recent testing and while the BGP download time isn't blazing
fast, it can load 400k routes and propagate them to 20 other peers in a few
minutes. Certainly not 2 hours. :) I've also done quite a bit of interop
testing with the other main vendors as well and have yet to run into
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 20:22 +, deles...@gmail.com wrote:
> What happened to CRS-2? :)
It exploded and was destroyed during construction. Parts of it were
also recycled to build the next CRS. |8^)
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/*=[ Jake Khuon ]=+
| Packet Plumber, Network Engineers
On Tue, 2010-03-09 at 15:29 -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
> The only "wow" here is "wow, why did cisco hype how far behind they
> are?"
Because in some organisations, the only vendor that matters is Cisco.
--
/*=[ Jake Khuon ]=+
| Packet Plumber, Network En
> Wow what?
>
> Is there anything in the CRS-3 that competitors are not shipping _today_?
>
> If you look at some startups, they are doing 4-5 times as many Gbps per
slot,
> and pre-release equipment is in use in some networks already.
>
> The only "wow" here is "wow, why did cisco hype how far
If possible, can someone technical (dns/email) from Roadrunner contact
me off-list? I tried going through the online & phone channels
provided on the various websites, but I'm getting the run-around.
Thanks,
- Ryan
On Tue, 9 Mar 2010 20:22:16 +
deles...@gmail.com wrote:
> What happened to CRS-2? :)
I agree. We were joking at work what the announcement might be and I
suggested a CRS2. Missed it by >< much :-(
> --Original Message--
> From: Robert Enger - NANOG
> To: David Hubbard
> Cc: nanog@nan
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 8:51 PM, Brian Feeny wrote
> If nothing else you gotta love the Cisco Marketing machine!
Indeed Cisco marketing machine.
Nothing new to CRS-1, just new linecards and route-processor.
It would be like giving the CAT6500 a new name back when the
SUP720/DCEF cards came out.
On Tue, 09 Mar 2010 14:51:28 -0500
Brian Feeny wrote:
>
> So who is going to be the first to deploy these?
>
> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html
>
>
> - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second
Is that about 11 giggitybits per second?
> - Stream every
On Mar 9, 2010, at 3:23 PM, Brandon Kim wrote:
> LOL! Wow that is a pretty sad comment..
>
> But back to the CRS-3, just wow!!!
Wow what?
Is there anything in the CRS-3 that competitors are not shipping _today_?
If you look at some startups, they are doing 4-5 times as many Gbps per slot,
LOL! Wow that is a pretty sad comment..
But back to the CRS-3, just wow!!!
> Subject: RE: CRS-3
> Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:54:16 -0500
> From: dhubb...@dino.hostasaurus.com
> To: nanog@nanog.org
>
> From: Brian Feeny [mailto:bfe...@mac.com]
> >
> > So who is going to be the first to dep
What happened to CRS-2? :)
--Original Message--
From: Robert Enger - NANOG
To: David Hubbard
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: CRS-3
Sent: Mar 9, 2010 4:20 PM
Forget Linksys: Didn't Peter Lothberg's mom have a CRS1 in her basement
already? :-)
She said it was great for drying her clothe
Forget Linksys: Didn't Peter Lothberg's mom have a CRS1 in her basement
already? :-)
She said it was great for drying her clothes.
If she gets the CRS-3, will she be able to dry her clothes even faster?
On 3/9/2010 11:54 AM, David Hubbard wrote:
The article about this in the tech section
Yes, it says that right in the press release.
J
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joel.es...@me.com
http://www.joelesler.net
On Tuesday, March 09, 2010, at 03:09PM, "Brandon Galbraith"
wrote:
>It was mentioned that Att is already testing this with a 100gbps fiber run.
>
>On Mar 9, 2010 1:53 PM, "Brian Feeny" wr
On Mar 9, 2010, at 1:09 PM, Brandon Galbraith wrote:
> It was mentioned that Att is already testing this with a 100gbps fiber run.
Maybe Peter Lothberg is testing one in his basement? :)
-b
It was mentioned that Att is already testing this with a 100gbps fiber run.
On Mar 9, 2010 1:53 PM, "Brian Feeny" wrote:
So who is going to be the first to deploy these?
http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html
- Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second
- Str
From: Brian Feeny [mailto:bfe...@mac.com]
>
> So who is going to be the first to deploy these?
>
> http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html
>
>
> - Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second
> - Stream every motion picture ever created in less than four minutes
>
So who is going to be the first to deploy these?
http://newsroom.cisco.com/dlls/2010/prod_030910.html
- Download the entire Library of Congress in just over 1 second
- Stream every motion picture ever created in less than four minutes
If nothing else you gotta love the Cisco Marketing machine!
Hi everyone,
I read the IPv4 address space thread and thought this might be of interest to
the group:
Some months ago I setup a small test to test if users browsing
http://www.pool.ntp.org/ supported IPv6:
http://www.v6test.develooper.com/statistics
http://www.v6test.develooper
Can anyone tell me how to get the beta 64 bit client? Thanks.
-Original Message-
From: Scott Howard [mailto:sc...@doc.net.au]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 12:47 PM
To: Blomberg, Orin P (DOH)
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Best VPN Appliance
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Blomberg,
The worst thing in it was bgp proto .. Router was unable to withstand
20+ peering sessions , most of that outgoing bgp session to customers
, a few peerings , and only 1v2 incoming upstream providers
When there was instability/surge in bgp updates , router was able to
break itself tcp sess. Dw
You are correct; I should have been more pedantic -- the SA series cannot
terminate site-to-site IPsec tunnels, according to the sales engineer, unlike
the Cisco 3000 series and ASA.
--
Toivo Voll
University of South Florida
Information Technology Communications
-Original Message-
From:
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Blomberg, Orin P (DOH)
wrote:
> Thanks for the information. I am just going on what we have been
> formally told by our onsite Cisco engineers on several occasions. It
> may be that they were misinformed, or that they are trying to make the
> sell for AnyConnect
Considering that there are likely more than a handful of Calix customers in
this list, I'd like to advertise a new listserv to talk about all things
Calix, namely calix-nsp.
If you're interested, you can sign up here:
https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/calix-nsp
Regards,
Frank Bulk
Hey everyone,
I posted an email a last week asking about a NANOG job board/list.
I received no responses so Jared Mauch and I thought it would be a good
idea to start a separate mailing list for this purpose. I will be
moderating this for the time being and asking for more moderators as i
On 3/8/2010 8:37 PM, Blomberg, Orin P (DOH) wrote:
There is also the fact to consider that Cisco has said there will be no
support for Windows 64-bit on their IPSEC client, they are pushing
people to the AnyConnect (An SSL-based clientless IPSEC) who want to use
Windows 64-bit or other OSs, so in
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