Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

Gadi Evron wrote: I can share personal examples of past uses relating to NANOG, which are public: Oh, duh! The outages mailing list is part of the ISOTF, although clearly its own entity. Gadi.

Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

Jorge Amodio wrote: Still you didn't answer the question. What ISOTF stands for and who are "we" ? What papers the "we" published ? where ? This is off-topic, so while we give some thought as to what to put on the public web page in the future, here is a quick answer. Future responses, plea

Re: Password repository

On 19/11/09 15:34 +0900, Randy Bush wrote: Quick question, does anyone have software/combination of tools they recommend on centrally store various passwords securely? ascii text file, gpg encrypted, only opened with emacs crypt++.el From the network administrator perspective, we prefer to

Re: Password repository

> Quick question, does anyone have software/combination of tools they > recommend on centrally store various passwords securely? ascii text file, gpg encrypted, only opened with emacs crypt++.el randy

RE: Password repository

http://keepass.info Works great in a multi-user environment. -Original Message- From: Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusda...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 19:57 To: NANOG Subject: Password repository Quick question, does anyone have software/combination of tools they recommend o

Re: Password repository

Pwman On 11/18/09, Jay Nakamura wrote: > Quick question, does anyone have software/combination of tools they > recommend on centrally store various passwords securely? > > Thanks. > > -- Sent from my mobile device -- Darren Bolding -- -- dar...@bolding.org --

Re: Policy News

Bret Clark expunged (bcl...@spectraaccess.com): > Want to get broadband out to people, then deal with duopolies that many > of the regions in the country have...such as Verizon & Comcast WRT to Comcast ... There is nothing preventing *any* company from building a cable network in any existing M

Re: Password repository

On a small scale, PasswordSafe from Sourceforge. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Jay Nakamura wrote: > Quick question, does anyone have software/combination of tools they > recommend on centrally store various passwords securely? > > Thanks. > > -- -- David Storandt CTO TelJet Longhaul LLC

Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

Still you didn't answer the question. What ISOTF stands for and who are "we" ? What papers the "we" published ? where ? Regards Jorge

Password repository

Quick question, does anyone have software/combination of tools they recommend on centrally store various passwords securely? Thanks.

Re: Juniper M120 Alternatives

As a side note that many may be aware of, there are other Cisco products/code bases that have these nice features. tv - Original Message - From: "Paul Cosgrove" To: "Richard A Steenbergen" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 8:04 AM Subject: Re: Juniper M120 Alternatives The des

AT&T BGP Setup

Hey everyone. I didn't really want to ask this out here, but wasn't sure who else I could ask, but does anyone here have BGP setup with AT&T as well as to other providers? Could you give me a phone number for a rep? Our AT&T reps are telling us they won't allow us to announce IP we get from AT&T an

Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

Youssef Ghorbal wrote: Off topic, but are you serious about the "Admin Interface" Link (http://www.isotf.org/?page_value=13223) or is it just a joke ? hehe, thanks for noticing. I'm sure Randy Vaughn gets excited every single time someone does. Reddit had fun with our admin interface a whil

Re: Juniper M120 Alternatives

> That's excellent news - any word on when Cisco will be back-porting these > truly useful features from XR to that platform which so many of us are still > running on (ie "traditional IOS")? Obviously not speaking for Cisco here - but as a significant customer we have had no indication that this

Re: Policy News

On 18.11.2009, at 20:08, Jeff Saxe wrote: > I don't think Steve meant a way to stop the CPU / process thread of > retrieving email if it is hung talking to an email server, although thank you > for that. I believe Steve meant "I want to keep reading the NANOG mailing > list in general, but this

Re: Juniper M120 Alternatives

That's excellent news - any word on when Cisco will be back-porting these truly useful features from XR to that platform which so many of us are still running on (ie "traditional IOS")? Phil P On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Paul Cosgrove < paul.cosgrove.na...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17

Re: Mail.app threading (was Re: Policy News)

On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:52 PM, Dobbins, Roland wrote: On Nov 19, 2009, at 2:13 AM, Matthew Dodd wrote: Sadly I don't know of any feature that does this in Mail.app, b If you set the Mail.app GUI to use 'threaded view', it's easy to zap a whole thread. I believe that Steve's desire was to

Re: Policy News

There isn't a thread-kill per se, but, you can create a rule and add the threads you want to it fairly easily... MAIL->Preferences, then go to the "Rules" tab. Owen On Nov 18, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Matthew Dodd wrote: I think he meant being able to easily delete an entire thread of emails, li

Mail.app threading (was Re: Policy News)

On Nov 19, 2009, at 2:13 AM, Matthew Dodd wrote: > Sadly I don't know of any feature that does this in Mail.app, b If you set the Mail.app GUI to use 'threaded view', it's easy to zap a whole thread. --- Roland Dobbins //

Re: Policy News

View -> Organize by thread. Then just hit the little circle, which selects all messages. Then delete. On Nov 18, 2009, at 11:13 AM, Matthew Dodd wrote: I think he meant being able to easily delete an entire thread of emails, like you might be able to if you were using Gmail. Sadly I don

Re: Policy News

On Nov 18, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Matthew Dodd wrote: > I think he meant being able to easily delete an entire thread of emails, like > you might be able to if you were using Gmail. Yup, precisely. > Sadly I don't know of any feature that does this in Mail.app, but you can > always make a Smart Ma

Re: Policy News

Well, I was reading this https://mozillalabs.com/raindrop  and it could have the potential to solve these problems for non gmail users and policy issues surrounding email itself. This is not intended to rain on anyones parade. -henry From: Matthew Dodd To: C

Re: Policy News

I think he meant being able to easily delete an entire thread of emails, like you might be able to if you were using Gmail. Sadly I don't know of any feature that does this in Mail.app, but you can always make a Smart Mailbox with the rule Any Recipient : Contains : "na...@merit.edu" and delete

Re: Policy News

Command+0 for the activity viewer - then click on the stop sign Sent from my iPhone. Please execute spelling errors. On 18.11.2009, at 17:43, Steven Bellovin wrote: Does anyone know an easy way to do "kill thread" in MacOS's Mail.App? It's getting increasingly hard to read the NANOG list on

Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

Off topic, but are you serious about the "Admin Interface" Link (http://www.isotf.org/?page_value=13223) or is it just a joke ? On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 6:29 PM, Gadi Evron wrote: > Simon Lockhart wrote: >> >> On Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 07:08:31PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: >>> >>>

Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

Simon Lockhart wrote: On Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 07:08:31PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: ISOTF Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation. Sorry, who is ISOTF? I tried looking on the website, but the "About ISOTF" page is blank... http://www.isotf.org/?page_value

Re: Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

On Wed Nov 18, 2009 at 07:08:31PM +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: > ISOTF Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public > participation. Sorry, who is ISOTF? I tried looking on the website, but the "About ISOTF" page is blank... http://www.isotf.org/?page_value=0 Simon

Announcement: Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation

ISOTF Critical Internet Infrastructure WG is now open to public participation. The group holds top experts on internet technology, critical infrastructure, and internet governance, from around the globe. Together, we discuss definitions, problems, challenges and solutions in securing and assurin

Re: Policy News

Does anyone know an easy way to do "kill thread" in MacOS's Mail.App? It's getting increasingly hard to read the NANOG list on my Mac without such a capability. (Yes, the question is serious on its own, apart from any other meanings you may choose to read into it.)

[mild flamage] Re: Policy News

Jared Mauch wrote: How about just mandating that it's illegal to build anything but fiber/gpon for services. I would expand on this and say we should make it illegal for any telecom carrier to refuse to put their assets into service wherever they may be, and going forward we should force condit

Re: Policy News

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Bret Clark wrote: Yeah...because when the economy is sucking wind why not raise fees to the consumer?!?! And one of the points of my original response was that consumers in large part have not received any additional value out of the fees they've paying (directly or indi

Re: Layer 2 vs. Layer 3 to TOR

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 04:34:11PM +0200, Eugeniu Patrascu wrote: > On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Kinkie wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Bulger, Tim wrote: > >> If you use stackable switches, you can stack across cabinets (up to 3 with > >> 1 meter Cisco 3750 Stackwise), and uplin

Re: Policy News

Yeah...because when the economy is sucking wind why not raise fees to the consumer?!?! Want to get broadband out to people, then deal with duopolies that many of the regions in the country have...such as Verizon & Comcast! They are the main barriers that cause grief in deployment, giving a chance

Re: Policy News

While we're at it why not charge taxes for having security bolted on tooI'm waiting for my Internet EZ-Pass to come in the mail to mount on my cable modem :-O I'm wondering where they come up with these schemes...I didn't see any mention of tax breaks to encourage the roll out. Just more char

Re: Policy News

On Wed, 18 Nov 2009, Jerry Dixon wrote: The Federal Communications Commission Wednesday will lay out the case for expanding broadband Internet service, outlining current obstacles to making it widely available. The agency is considering whether to force Internet providers to share their networks

Re: Policy News

How about just mandating that it's illegal to build anything but fiber/gpon for services. If something fails, it needs to be replaced with modern technology. I know here they replaced copper cable in the middle of the winter last year, it would have made more sense to just use the conduit they

Policy News

If you can make it they can tax it :/ Article in today's Wall Street Journal: "WASHINGTON -- Federal regulators are considering whether the government should take greater control of the Internet and ask consumers to pay higher phone charges in order to provide all Americans with cheaper access to

Re: Layer 2 vs. Layer 3 to TOR

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Kinkie wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Bulger, Tim wrote: >> If you use stackable switches, you can stack across cabinets (up to 3 with 1 >> meter Cisco 3750 Stackwise), and uplink on the ends.  It's a pretty solid >> layout if you plan your port needs

Re: Layer 2 vs. Layer 3 to TOR

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 9:40 PM, Bulger, Tim wrote: > If you use stackable switches, you can stack across cabinets (up to 3 with 1 > meter Cisco 3750 Stackwise), and uplink on the ends.  It's a pretty solid > layout if you plan your port needs properly based on NIC density and cabinet > size, p

Re: Juniper M120 Alternatives

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 09:24:24AM -0600, Jack Bates wrote: > > Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > > >They've definitely been improving it over the years though, so much that > > >I almost never trigger a session reset on me unintentional