Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
/ Patrick Shanahan wrote on Tue 20.Nov'12 at 16:08:30 -0500 / > * Jamie Paul Griffin [11-20-12 15:50]: > > ... > > > I'm sorry but I receive the mails I send out from this list just as > > others do and I have no issue with readability using mutt or mail(1)

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
/ Patrick Shanahan wrote on Tue 20.Nov'12 at 17:55:08 -0500 / > * Jamie Paul Griffin [11-20-12 17:33]: > ... > > > I'm sorry to say, but ever since I have subscribed to this list you have > > taken many opportunities to criticise me over trivial issues, bot

Re: Putting table in email?

2012-11-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
/ Bernard Massot wrote on Wed 21.Nov'12 at 0:18:09 +0100 / > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 04:37:11PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > > Note the corners: periods on top, and ` ' on the bottom. IMHO, this > > looks better. But that IS just my opinion. :-) And just on a style > > note, I would also cond

Re: mutt over hyperterminal

2012-11-20 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
/ Matthias Apitz wrote on Wed 21.Nov'12 at 6:54:38 +0100 / > Most likely the charset of your terminal does not match the NLS > environment (LANG) which you have after login into the Ubuntu. I do not > know hyperterminal, i.e. if you can control this in hyperterminal; if > not, use PuTTY as a te

Re: move cursor while reading mails

2012-11-21 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
/ horse_rivers wrote on Wed 21.Nov'12 at 17:33:22 +0800 / > hi, > >    It seems that mutt can not give to users  the cursor's  position  while > reading mail , this is  a bit uncomfortable for me , >    Is there mothod which can make mutt display cursor out ? or custom certain >  key-bindings .

Re: Expiring Messages

2012-11-21 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
/ To mutt-users@mutt.org wrote on Sat 10.Nov'12 at 7:39:33 + / > / David Champion wrote on Fri 9.Nov'12 at 15:00:44 -0600 / > > Python option: > > $ easy_install parsedatetime > > $ python > > >>> from parsedatetime.parsedatetime import Calendar > > >>> import time > > >>> rfc822format = '%

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-21 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
/ Rado Q wrote on Wed 21.Nov'12 at 13:00:12 +0100 / > =- Chris Green wrote on Wed 21.Nov'12 at 11:51:52 + -= > > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:01:41AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > > > > I don't like vim. I prefer the old vi, so i

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-21 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
/ Rado Q wrote on Wed 21.Nov'12 at 13:31:58 +0100 / > =- Jamie Paul Griffin wrote on Wed 21.Nov'12 at 12:14:25 + -= > > > > > > I don't like vim. I prefer the old vi, so i'd have to set it in > > > > > ~/.exrc which mean all files will

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-21 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
/ Rado Q wrote on Wed 21.Nov'12 at 15:06:08 +0100 / > =- Jamie Paul Griffin wrote on Wed 21.Nov'12 at 13:27:04 + -= > > > I've just not come across this issue with my editor/mail on other > > lists where many users don't use or seem to care much about

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-21 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
/ Mark H. Wood wrote on Wed 21.Nov'12 at 9:56:23 -0500 / > Well, when it doesn't work to lecture people who are trying to > communicate, try ignoring them. On public MLs, whenever my "this guy > doesn't know how to communicate effectively" recognizer goes off, I > typically hit 'd' and move on.

Re: Expiring Messages

2012-11-23 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ David Champion Wrote On Sun 18.Nov'12 at 16:32:32 GMT ] > This is a quick hack and untested beyond the basics, but feel free to > work from it. It is, or should be, a complete reimplementation of > Gary's script in Python. > > #!/usr/bin/env python > > import os > import sys > import time >

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Peter Davis Wrote On Fri 23.Nov'12 at 14:27:23 GMT ] > This will be my last comment on the subject, since straying off > topic is, I think, a worse transgression than top posting or using > long lines. I apologize for prolonging this. I'll try to be as > explicit as I can, to clarify my views on

Re: Expiring Messages - Solved!

2012-11-24 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
I have found the source of the problem: the script failed when expiring messages in /var/mail/... but not is mailboxes in my $HOME directory; so, it was a permissions issue which i've now resolved. Sorry to have pestered you David, especially there was no real problem, just a simple matter of

Re: Expiring Messages - not quite solved

2012-11-25 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ David Champion Wrote On Sun 25.Nov'12 at 2:00:08 GMT ] > * On 24 Nov 2012, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > I have found the source of the problem: the script failed when > > expiring messages in /var/mail/... but not is mailboxes in my $HOME > > directory; so, it was

Re: Expiring Messages - not quite solved

2012-11-25 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ David Champion Wrote On Sun 25.Nov'12 at 23:26:49 GMT ] > * On 25 Nov 2012, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > > The script works on all messages except those with Content-Type: > > Multipart/* > > This doesn't ring a bell to me, and I'm finding that i

Multipart MIME

2012-11-26 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
Hi Does anyone have or know of a perl or python script, or even a shell script, that removes the multipart/(mixed|alternative| ... ) parts of incoming mail and leaves or converts the message into plain text? Also, i wouldn't want to lose any attachments that people might send me. I have looked an

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-26 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Tony's unattended mail Wrote On Mon 26.Nov'12 at 16:59:03 GMT ] don't you think this discussion has been exhausted to death now? It only started out as a request to wrap lines in my email bodies.

Re: Multipart MIME

2012-11-26 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Gary Johnson Wrote On Tue 27.Nov'12 at 1:10:24 GMT ] > On 2012-11-27, mutt wrote: > > i wrote something like that. by default, it converts to text anything > > that can be converted to text and deletes everything else but you > > can turn off any specific transformation. it can delete specific

Re: Multipart MIME

2012-11-27 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Will Yardley Wrote On Tue 27.Nov'12 at 7:40:45 GMT ] > On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 09:57:33AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > > Does anyone have or know of a perl or python script, or even a shell > > script, that removes the multipart/(mixed|alternative| ... )

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-27 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Rado S Wrote On Tue 27.Nov'12 at 10:20:12 GMT ] > =- Jeremy Kitchen wrote on Mon 26.Nov'12 at 10:48:24 -0800 -= > > > > don't you think this discussion has been exhausted to death now? > > > It only started out as a request to wrap lines in my email bodies. > > > > I do find that part kind o

Re: Expiring Messages - not quite solved

2012-11-27 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ David Champion Wrote On Tue 27.Nov'12 at 10:18:32 GMT ] > * On 25 Nov 2012, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > > > > In the end the new version of the message is generated by formail, so > > > it's subject to formail's limitations, if it has an

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-27 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Tony's unattended mail Wrote On Tue 27.Nov'12 at 16:45:58 GMT ] > On 2012-11-27, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > > I'm sorry but you've lost me again :-) - both of you > > There are two kinds of people: > > 1) Those who oppose ambiguity >

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-29 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Erik Christiansen Wrote On Thu 29.Nov'12 at 5:26:49 GMT ] > On 28.11.12 12:16, Derek Martin wrote: > > All methods of judgement are rigid, by their very nature. It is only the > > human element which allows them to be flexible (for example, I knew > > what you meant when you typed "rigit"). H

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-29 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Jim Graham Wrote On Thu 29.Nov'12 at 14:08:45 GMT ] > Look at it from the other direction---you're on an e-mail list, where > people ask questions, and other people use their own free time and > volunteer to help those asking the questions. It is perfectly reasonable > to expect that the person

Re: Documentation on L[ist reply] doesn't tell the whole truth

2012-11-30 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Chris Green Wrote On Thu 29.Nov'12 at 17:38:58 GMT ] > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:24:49PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Chris Green [11-29-12 11:38]: > > ... > > > > > It's not my .muttrc, it's just one list that I subscribe to which has > > > two addresses. Only one address ever appe

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-30 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Will Yardley Wrote On Thu 29.Nov'12 at 19:54:15 GMT ] > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:45:01AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > > Bear in mind that this list, by it's very subject matter, self-selects > > for members who tend towards old school tools and technologies. Mutt > > users are obviously more li

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-30 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Grant Edwards Wrote On Fri 30.Nov'12 at 18:20:00 GMT ] > On 2012-11-30, Jim Graham wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 09:57:50AM -0500, Mark H. Wood wrote: > > > >> I don't think it was about sending mail through a .gmail address; it > >> was about using the GMail web thingy to compose the mail

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-01 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Derek Martin Wrote On Fri 30.Nov'12 at 17:17:22 GMT ] > On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 03:23:58PM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > There could be any number of reasons why someone might > > not compose a perfect message: there could be learning difficulties, > > some

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-01 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Rado S Wrote On Sat 1.Dec'12 at 9:17:29 GMT ] > =- Jamie Paul Griffin wrote on Sat 1.Dec'12 at 8:38:57 + -= > > > Long lines != the end of the world. Simple as that. > > ... _for you_. > But it can mean the beginning of the end for efficient > co

Re: Threaded sort not working where using Subject: rather than Mail-Id:

2012-12-01 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Chris Green Wrote On Sat 1.Dec'12 at 11:35:23 GMT ] > I have the following in my muttrc file relating to thread sorting:- > > folder-hook . 'set sort=threads;set hostname=""' > folder-hook sentmail set sort=date-sent > > Up to now this has worked fine as most of the lists I belong to

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-01 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Derek Martin Wrote On Sat 1.Dec'12 at 18:50:41 GMT ] > On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 08:38:57AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > And what you generally see, INCLUDING in the case which generated this > > > thread, is a great deal of tolerance from the community for s

Re: Threading + Locale woes

2012-12-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Will Yardley [2012-12-02 11:00:56 -0800]: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 09:41:02AM -0600, fREW Schmidt wrote: > > (http://dev.mutt.org/trac/wiki/MuttFaq/Charset) and setting > > > >export LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-1 > > > > did fix the problem, but it also causes perl to scream and shout about

Re: Jump to next mailbox with unread mail

2012-12-21 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Marco [2012-12-21 02:01:47 +0100]: > On 2012–12–20 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > You access the mail box and leave, then expect mutt to still show > > new mail. > > Yes, I do. If there is a new unread message in the mail box and I > enter and leave it is still contains an unread message that

Re: Jump to next mailbox with unread mail

2012-12-21 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Jamie Paul Griffin [2012-12-21 10:12:06 +]: > * Marco [2012-12-21 02:01:47 +0100]: > > > On 2012–12–20 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > You access the mail box and leave, then expect mutt to still show > > > new mail. > > > > Yes, I do.

Re: (Un)Highlight messages related to me

2012-12-21 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Michael Elkins [2012-12-21 10:10:55 -0800]: > On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 06:00:12PM +0100, Marco wrote: > >This hook should only kick for mailing lists messages, which are > >stored in mail folders containing “Lists”. However, this > >highlighting applies to all messages in all folders once I've >

Re: Jump to next mailbox with unread mail

2012-12-23 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Chris Green [2012-12-22 17:15:01 +]: > On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:08:25AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Chris Bannister [12-22-12 09:58]: > > > On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 01:47:24PM +, Chris Green wrote: > > > > > > > > I have added:- > > > > bindindex n next-unread-mail

Re: isn't doing what I expect, help please

2012-12-30 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Chris Green [2012-12-30 11:43:01 +]: > On Sat, Dec 29, 2012 at 11:11:06PM -0200, Ivan Sichmann Freitas wrote: > > >I want to *avoid* all this complexity, I simply want a command which > > >will scan through all my incoming mail mailboxes and take me to the ones > > >which have messages mark

Re: isn't doing what I expect, help please

2012-12-30 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Chris Green [2012-12-30 12:11:22 +]: > On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 11:59:11AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > > > These weird Maildirs you describe, are they created by an imap server? > > If so what imap server software are you using? > > > My mail is ini

Re: isn't doing what I expect, help please

2012-12-31 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Cameron Simpson [2012-12-31 10:34:45 +1100]: > On 30Dec2012 12:11, Chris Green wrote: > | My mail is initially delivered by SMTP (to a postfix server running > | locally) and then filtered by a python script at the moment. Thus, if > | I switch to maildir just now it's the Python libraries wh

Re: isn't doing what I expect, help please

2013-01-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Michael Elkins [2012-12-31 15:10:29 +]: > On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 09:04:21AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > >I use something very similar: I read the Maildirs directly on my mx > >server using mutt but use imap from my Mac to the server also using mutt > >and ssh

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Andreas Hanke [2013-01-02 16:24:50 +0100]: > Hi Sander, Hi other, > > thanks a lot for the feedback! > > I have the informations for you: > > 1.) the "wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8"; returns the collect values. > > 2.) I have no charset config into my .muttrc > > 3.) ":set ?charset" in mut

Re: Transitioning to IMAP & maildir. Howto define ~/mail instead of ~/Mail?

2013-01-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* s. keeling [2013-01-02 10:26:23 -0700]: > Hi. Long time. :-) > >User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) # Debian testing/wheezy. > > Background, I used mutt for years locally, dumping mail into ~/Mail > via POP. Now, I've recently discovered that my ISP allows me IMAP > access, so I'm try

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-02 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Andreas Kneib [2013-01-02 19:53:27 +0100]: > * Michael Elkins schrieb am 02.01.2013 um 18:21 Uhr: > > > For the record, here are the pertinent parts of his `mutt -v' output: > > > ncurses: ncurses 5.9.20110404 (compiled with 5.9) > > +ENABLE_NLS -LOCALES_HACK +HAVE_WC_FUNCS +HAVE_LANGINFO_

Re: Transitioning to IMAP & maildir. Howto define ~/mail instead of ~/Mail?

2013-01-03 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* s. keeling [2013-01-02 22:05:29 -0700]: > ... and it's entirely possible that I don't know what I'm doing there. > I'm very new to IMAP (never used it before). spoolfile used to be > "/var/mail/keeling" when I POPped mail from my ISP (and then procmail > picked it up ...). When I login to ISP

Re: why my mutt usually lose some email ?

2013-01-03 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* horse_rivers [2013-01-04 12:56:14 +0800]: > hi, > >   I  find my mutt usually lose some email . > >   how to fix it ? > >   how to make mutt receive email automatic? > > thanks! > First and foremost, you need to understand that mutt is merely a mail reading browser - it doesn't receive ma

Re: Problem with charset

2013-01-06 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Sander Smeenk [2013-01-04 09:30:11 +0100]: > Quoting s. keeling (keel...@nucleus.com): > > > > Run wget -qO- http://8n1.org/utf8 > > > This should show a 'demo' of unicode capabilities. > > > > FWIW, that displays (mostly) gibberish in my "mrxvt-full" (Debian > > testing/wheezy). > > Your

Re: how to sort mail by address where mail send from ?

2013-01-08 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* horseriver [2013-01-07 14:14:37 +0800]: > hi: > > I have subscribed several mail list ,and I want to sort mail by their > > address into respective mail fold . > > how can I do ? > > thanks! Can you tell us more about how you access your mail, is it via imap or pop, or are you usin

Re: how to sort mail by address where mail send from ?

2013-01-09 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* horseriver [2013-01-08 09:26:42 +0800]: > On Tue, Jan 08, 2013 at 10:14:54AM +, Jamie Paul Griffin wrote: > > * horseriver [2013-01-07 14:14:37 +0800]: > > > > > hi: > > > > > > I have subscribed several mail list ,and I want to sort mail by th

Re: can not get mail from mail list which are send by myself

2013-01-09 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* horseriver [2013-01-08 09:31:34 +0800]: > hi: > >I can not receive mails which are sent by myself to a mail list . > >somewhere wrong? > > thanks! > When I set up my Gmail account I went into the settings on the web interface and set up an address that I can send from. So I used my

Re: index macros don't work when current mailbox empty

2013-01-12 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* Marco [2013-01-11 20:12:11 +0100]: > On 2013–01–11 Michael Elkins wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 07:10:45PM +0100, Marco wrote: > > >>The problem is all the extra spaces you included in the macro > > >>string. > > > > > >I would never have thought of this! Still, I don't understand why i

Re: temporarily modifying thread display in the index?

2013-01-16 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
* David J. Weller-Fahy [2013-01-14 21:31:13 -0500]: > * Will Fiveash [2013-01-14 14:22 -0500]: > > Indeed, with hide_top_limited=yes I can limit the display of a > > subthread in the desired way. I'm now using this index macro: > > > > macro index "_S" "~T\n" "Display only > > subthread" > >

I have forgotten ...

2013-06-20 Thread Paul E Condon
. I am using Mutt and Emacs as installed by the Debian installer. Or maybe I have also forgotten some special configuring that I had to do to get this reflow working. I really don't need to be told RTFM. I am 80 yrs old. I forget things. Please help -- Paul E Condon

Re: I have forgotten ...

2013-06-20 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20130620_094106, Luis Mochan wrote: > I use alt-q. > > On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 08:35:25AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I am having a mental block, and cannot remember how to > > wrap text in Emacs while composing an email. Specifically, Thanks, Luis. This is exa

mutthistory

2013-07-22 Thread Paul E Condon
my (old) .muttrc seems to have variable names that are now undocumented, for instance I see 'set wrap -4' left over from when I was running Etch (or maybe even before that). I can't find any mention of plain 'wrap' in current docs. TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: mutt: new user

2013-11-17 Thread Paul E Condon
omputer, and operating system. e.g. good advice for a Debian system is useless gibberish on a Mac. So... tell us what OS and hardware. And what mail system(s) you have used in the past. Look for web sites of colleges in your area that have information on how to use email on campus. Many use and support Mutt. Sunday morning is probably not a good time to get in-depth advice. I hope I'm wrong on that. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: Inbox and Sent messages in one thread. How To? [Off topic question]

2013-12-06 Thread Paul E Condon
borrowed. ... borrowers are ascendant and central banks are > working for them, not savers. In fact, savers are being plundered with super > low > interest in the name of promoting aggregate demand and maintaining inflation. > - > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-06/kohler-prices-want-to-fall-but-borrowers-wont-let-them/5072388 -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: w3m HTML displays

2013-12-12 Thread Paul E Condon
t; > Thanks! > > -pd > -pd, I'd be very interested in having a copy of whatever .mailcap entry you work out. Please keep reporting your progress here, because I'm sure I can't be alone in this interest. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: w3m HTML displays

2013-12-13 Thread Paul E Condon
nough to implement in > your terminal of choice. I use urxvt with M-u mapped to scrolling up through > highlighted links, and opens it in the browser of choice. > > It's not a mutt specific solution but that could help with emails with links. > > -- > Pete -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: mutt native SMPT support vs Postfix?

2014-01-07 Thread Paul E Condon
problem and offers no other services that I might, in my ignorance, mis-configure. ( For incoming mail I use fetchmail, which is well supported by Debian. I'm not interested in having my mail cached on a computer outside my home. ) YMMV -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Need help with coloring the indicator line

2014-07-15 Thread Paul E Condon
I fix this? Thanks -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: Need help with coloring the indicator line

2014-07-17 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20140716_0918+0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: > Hi Paul, > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 07:48:34PM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I'm not sure of the correct but by the indicator line > > I mean the black horizontal bar that is covers one entry > > in the table of ent

Re: mutt can't send to fastmail and others.

2014-08-18 Thread Paul E Condon
_user = wa6iv...@fastmail.fm > > >set imap_pass = "4" > > ># > > ># SMTP server to relay to > > ># NOTE: to get this to work, I had to install the libsasl2-modules > > >package > > >#set smtp_url ="smtps://$my_user:$my_pass@$my_smtp_server:465/" > > >set smtp_url = "smtps://wa6iv...@mail.messagingengine.com:realpass:465/" A month or so ago my ISP switched port number for smtp to :587 I can't remember what they used before the switch. HTH > > > > > > > > > Tom Fowle > > > wa6iv...@fastmail.fm > > > > Hi Tom, > > > > How come you changed your smtp_url setting from the one that is > > commented out? I use fastmail with a similar config, and the smtp_url > > setting you commented out works for me. > > > > Brendan -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: Disabling specific SMTP authenticator

2014-08-19 Thread Paul E Condon
all ears. > If answer above was yes, you have a *working* solution which is much more valuable than a 'solution' that is 'elegant' and doesn't work. To paraphrase Michael Elkins: All msmtprc files suck. This one just sucks less. I suppose you could take care to

Mutt 1.4i .index and .index.ids files ?

2002-08-04 Thread Paul A. Cheshire
otherwise be quite quick so would like to swich off this funtionality. Any help gratefully received. :-{ MTIA -- Paul A. Cheshire | A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash Linux User # 73079| advance. No fences?| No Gates required.| SPAM enters BLACKHOLE

Re: Mutt 1.4i .index and .index.ids files ?

2002-08-04 Thread Paul A. Cheshire
Bruno Postle [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] asserted: > On Sun 04-Aug-2002 at 01:28:05 +0100, Paul A. Cheshire wrote: > > > > Having recently upgraded to 1.4i I noticed it has a set of the above > > files for each folder (Maildir). > > Oh, where did you get that mutt? > &

mutt attachments html and cron

2008-07-02 Thread Paul -Spawn- Rysevets
is... ah.. btw.. when run by cron i've managet to get error-out: -- Error in /home/webmaster/.muttrc, line 2: header_cache: unknown variable source: errors in /home/webmaster/.muttrc Error in command line: content_type: unknown variable -- -- Best regar

Re: mutt attachments html and cron

2008-07-08 Thread Paul -Spawn- Rysevets
Hello Michael, Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 5:26:58 PM, you wrote: MK> On 2 Jul 2008 17:19 +0300, by [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul -Spawn- Rysevets): >> ah.. btw.. when run by cron i've managet to get error-out: >> -- >> Error in /home/webmaster/.muttrc, lin

question about saving emails

2009-01-30 Thread Paul E Condon
save-hook defined? If it is built in logic can it be overriden with a save-hook? What would be a save-hook that delivers equivalent logic to what is built in? I think I want to write some save-hooks of my own, but I'd like to see some working examples before I start my own creative guessing.

Re: mboxes and maildirs in .muttrc

2009-02-01 Thread Paul E Condon
n a slash (/) it uses maildir, otherwise it uses mbox. This might also be the case for mutt, but I haven't tested. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

line wrap in the index?

2009-02-01 Thread Paul E Condon
Subject: field in each line, I think. But rather than line wrap in the index, is there a way to truncate the print of the subject field? I think I can tell whether I want to open an email on the basis of the first twenty or thirty letters of the subject. Thanks, -- Paul E Condon pecon

question marks in default index_format

2009-02-02 Thread Paul E Condon
don't see them in printf docs. TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: question marks in default index_format (solved)

2009-02-02 Thread Paul E Condon
In the manual at www.mutt.org/doc/manual, there is no section 3.277. But there is documantation of status_format in section 6.1 and it describes the use of the question mark. The description of status_format in the man page also describes the use of the question mark. Thanks to all -- Paul E

Re: Signature for new mail/no signature for replies

2009-02-05 Thread Paul E Condon
t the right time for new messages. send-hook does not > seem to be the one I want, and remapping the 'm' key seems a little > cludgy. > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > -- Mike > -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

time stamps on emails in mutt index display

2009-02-08 Thread Paul E Condon
email so that mutt sees it? (and believes it?) TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: time stamps on emails in mutt index display

2009-02-08 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-02-08_21:27:58, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Sunday, February 8 at 03:34 PM, quoth Paul E Condon: > > Where does mutt get the date and time that it displays > > in the index of emails in a folder? I ask because I am > > trying to build an archive of old email in mail

Re: time stamps on emails in mutt index display

2009-02-09 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-02-09_09:53:27, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Sunday, February 8 at 10:33 PM, quoth Paul E Condon: > > What is a header cache? And how can I know if I am using one? If I > > am, how can I refresh it? > > Read the manual: > http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/ma

Re: newbie install

2009-02-16 Thread Paul E Condon
TA services, you may not be able to remove the MTA that the distribution provided, unless you make sure that your substitute is actually handling this 'hidden' email traffic. There are daemons on your computer that may, some day, need to talk to you. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: Multiple emails flag as read

2009-02-18 Thread Paul E Condon
I suppose I need to type it into may computer, but where? Like I said, a really dumb question... -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: Archiving "archive-email"

2009-02-18 Thread Paul E Condon
or me too but i am still looking > for a better solution to search mails. I'm curious about "archive-email". You refer to it as if it is the name of a specific piece of software, but I can't find anything with that name by googling. What is it? And where can I learn more about it? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

an additional format for "The Mutt E-Mail Client" document?

2009-02-19 Thread Paul E Condon
some html editing software with which I can generate my own single page version of said document? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

An idea that might be an improvement

2009-02-24 Thread Paul E Condon
What say you? Is there already something better? Is there some reason why this won't really work? Or why it won't do what I want? But mostly, already something better? -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Batch Individual Save?

2009-03-06 Thread Paul E Condon
his is OK for solving some other problem, but not the problem that I have now. Is there some way of automating what happens when I type 's','\n','\n' over and over again? FYI, it may make a difference: I am using a maildir format repository for the folders,

Re: Batch Individual Save?

2009-03-06 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-06_12:04:58, Rajarajan Rajamani wrote: > On 09:03 Fri 06 Mar , Paul E Condon wrote: > > I find myself in possession of an email folder in which there are > > close to a thousand emails. These emails are from many different > > senders. I want to create folder

Re: domain-name based mailboxes (OT question about terminology)

2009-03-10 Thread Paul E Condon
w mail), > and that you may even be asking the wrong mailing list---your question > sounds more appropriate to, say, the mailing list of an MTA, like > qmail or sendmail. So is it correct to say that the difference between a 'folder' and a 'mailbox' is that a mailbox is a folder that is checked on occasion for the arrival of new mail? -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: domain-name based mailboxes (OT question about terminology)

2009-03-10 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-03-10_14:22:54, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Tuesday, March 10 at 11:58 AM, quoth Paul E Condon: > > So is it correct to say that the difference between a 'folder' and a > > 'mailbox' is that a mailbox is a folder that is checked on occasi

Re: what is the benefit of imap? Another meta-question.

2009-03-18 Thread Paul E Condon
nd a straight-forward description of imap, without the enthusiastic pushing? What is it? Not in some narrow sense, but what is involved in 'being an imap user'? I suspect it is more complicated than the pusher would have one believe, but ... I don't know. I sense that it is usefu

fixing email dates

2009-04-18 Thread Paul E Condon
nks it the real date? Etc. Etc... I'm using Maildir format for all by emails. TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

a puzzlement

2009-04-18 Thread Paul E Condon
uch or how little work I have done. Once I got it after I deleted 20,000 emails from a single mailbox, or maybe I misunderstand what a mailbox is. Anyway, what does this message mean? Should I ever expect to see a different message? Why is it there? I'm puzzled TIA -- Paul E Condon

Re: a puzzlement

2009-04-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-18_12:05:51, David Champion wrote: > * On 18 Apr 2009, Paul E Condon wrote: > > When Mutt closes, it invariable issues the message: > > > > "Mailbox is unchanged." > > Do you before you or ? "Mailbox is > unchanged" means that no m

Re: a puzzlement

2009-04-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-18_11:58:52, Zhengquan Zhang wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 10:53:39AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: > > I just posted a question about dates on emails. When I exited > > Mutt after sending it I noticed a feature of Mutt that has > > long puzzled me and I decided

Re: fixing email dates

2009-04-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-18_13:33:09, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Saturday, April 18 at 10:43 AM, quoth Paul E Condon: > > I had thought that I could edit into the email a Date: header with > > the correct date, > > Yup, that's the way to do it. > > Let me guess: you edited the

Re: a puzzlement

2009-04-18 Thread Paul E Condon
On 2009-04-18_13:43:09, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > On Saturday, April 18 at 12:29 PM, quoth Paul E Condon: > > What is a sync in this context? > > Essentially, when mutt opens a mailbox, it builds a picture of the > mailbox's state in memory. When you mark messages as "

Re: Detecting new mail in mbox format

2009-04-23 Thread Paul E Condon
logic work, you are not actually accessing the file, you are only accessing metadata in the inode. This changes the ctime, and not the atime. Maybe your test that leads you to believe there is a problem should be described in more detail. HTH -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Re: split display?

2009-07-18 Thread Paul E Condon
f course threading, as implemented now, assumes that the grouping is a rooted tree, which is actually more complicated than a simple grouping. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net

Using templates - [plain text]

2009-08-02 Thread Patrick Gen Paul
I have created a template: From: Gen Paul To: pgenp...@gmail.com Cc: Bcc: Subject: [To be defined] When I do: $ mutt -H template.txt I see this at the bottom of the screen: To: pgenp...@gmail.com So I have to hit to continue, Then I see this: Cc: So I hit again, And only then mutt

Re: Using templates

2009-08-02 Thread Patrick Gen Paul
there is no askto variable and this problem cannot be solved. Thank you, Gen-Paul

Malformed From: address in headers

2009-08-11 Thread Patrick Gen Paul
hon-list-bounces+pgenpaul=gmail@python.org instead of "Joe User" I edited the mbox and changed the malformed email address in the From: field, to: Joe User and on the particular message this fixed the problem. Does anyone know why this is happening, and how I can work around it? Thanks, Gen-Paul.

Re: Malformed From: address in headers

2009-08-11 Thread Patrick Gen Paul
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Tuesday, August 11 at 07:41 PM, quoth Patrick Gen Paul: >>Does anyone know why this is happening, and how I can work around it? > > I think you pretty much hit t

Re: Malformed From: address in headers

2009-08-11 Thread Patrick Gen Paul
On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Kyle Wheeler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > On Tuesday, August 11 at 09:34 PM, quoth Patrick Gen Paul: >> Is there a well-respected mail etiquette, or RFC even, that I could >> refer him to? > > Ah! Why

Re: Malformed From: address in headers

2009-08-21 Thread Patrick Gen-Paul
Cameron Simpson wrote: On 15Aug2009 14:06, Gen-Paul wrote: [...nice rant...] Thanks for snipping. I've read some of his older posts and he sounds like a decent enough sort of chap otherwise. Actually, a few months back, his malformed "From:" email address was quoted an

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