Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 01:09:16PM +0200, Andre Klärner wrote: > On Tue 08.04.2014 19:53:02, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > > So, where am I supposed to read the manual? > > Maybe try the manual that came with your distribution (Debian: > /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz) or at least the manual for the

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 03:19:58PM -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: > I don't even use Mutt, Patrick, or at least I don't use Mutt yet. I will > use Mutt in the future if it supports the maildir architecture & > protocol - to make that determination is the primary reason why I lurk > here. It does. :)

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Mark Filipak [04-09-14 15:21]: > On 2014/4/9 2:39 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > * Mark Filipak [04-09-14 14:35]: > >> On 2014/4/7 4:15 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > >> -snip- > >>> I can imagine that the problem is: a sender is always one person, while > >>> the recipients could be many. > >> >

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2014/4/9 2:39 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Mark Filipak [04-09-14 14:35]: >> On 2014/4/7 4:15 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: >> -snip- >>> I can imagine that the problem is: a sender is always one person, while >>> the recipients could be many. >> >> Actually, a sender is not always one person. I

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Mark Filipak [04-09-14 14:35]: > On 2014/4/7 4:15 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: > -snip- > > I can imagine that the problem is: a sender is always one person, while > > the recipients could be many. > > Actually, a sender is not always one person. If you have multiple Google > accounts, for example

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2014/4/7 4:15 PM, Matthias Apitz wrote: -snip- > I can imagine that the problem is: a sender is always one person, while > the recipients could be many. Actually, a sender is not always one person. If you have multiple Google accounts, for example, which you configure as SMTP & POP (or IMAP) se

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Mark Filipak
On 2014/4/9 11:55 AM, Derek Martin wrote: -snip- > I've said it many times, but I think that's perfectly reasonable, > especially with something that has such a steep learning curve, as > Mutt does. Asking a question about your specific problem is by far > the fastest way to get the answer, if

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Derek Martin
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 11:31:52AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > Let's be fair... The manual changes from version to version > > (especially major versions), and the link that Ulrich provided above > > IS a perfectly valid link to the Mutt manual. It's just not the one > > that's relevant to

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Ulrich Lauther
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 10:14:22AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > > Let's be fair... The manual changes from version to version > (especially major versions), and the link that Ulrich provided above > IS a perfectly valid link to the Mutt manual. It's just not the one > that's relevant to the versi

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Derek Martin [04-09-14 11:18]: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 07:20:38PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > I cannot find this text in > > > http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#ss3.11 > > > > > > So, where am I supposed to read the manual? > > > > Google does not work for you ??? > > > >

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 07:20:38PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > I cannot find this text in > > http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-3.html#ss3.11 > > > > So, where am I supposed to read the manual? > > Google does not work for you ??? > > You *are* expected to exhibit *some* small interest

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 07:53:02PM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:33:08PM +0200, Andre Klärner wrote: > > > > Actually the manual specifies this pretty nicely: > > > > == the fine manual, chapter 3.11: > > Many users receive e-mail under a number of different addresse

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Andre Klärner
On Tue 08.04.2014 19:53:02, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:33:08PM +0200, Andre Klärner wrote: > > > > Actually the manual specifies this pretty nicely: > > > > == the fine manual, chapter 3.11: > > Many users receive e-mail under a number of different addresses. To fully >

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Ulrich Lauther [04-08-14 19:08]: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:33:08PM +0200, Andre Klärner wrote: > > > > Actually the manual specifies this pretty nicely: > > > > == the fine manual, chapter 3.11: > > Many users receive e-mail under a number of different addresses. To > > fully use Mutt's

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-08 Thread Ulrich Lauther
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:33:08PM +0200, Andre Klärner wrote: > > Actually the manual specifies this pretty nicely: > > == the fine manual, chapter 3.11: > Many users receive e-mail under a number of different addresses. To fully > use > Mutt's features here, the program must be able to rec

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-08 Thread Derek Martin
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 07:23:31PM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:33:08PM +0200, Andre Klärner wrote: > > Actually the manual specifies this pretty nicely: > > > > == the fine manual, chapter 3.11: > > Many users receive e-mail under a number of different addresses. To

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Ulrich Lauther [04-08-14 13:27]: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:33:08PM +0200, Andre Klärner wrote: > > Actually the manual specifies this pretty nicely: > > > > == the fine manual, chapter 3.11: > > Many users receive e-mail under a number of different addresses. To fully > > use > > Mutt's

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-08 Thread Ulrich Lauther
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:33:08PM +0200, Andre Klärner wrote: > Actually the manual specifies this pretty nicely: > > == the fine manual, chapter 3.11: > Many users receive e-mail under a number of different addresses. To fully > use > Mutt's features here, the program must be able to recogn

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-08 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 05:43:15PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: > On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:14:44PM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > > %-18.18F does not work for me: I still see my own name. > > However, %-18.18t achieves what I want. > > Check out the alternates command; I believe that's why you're

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-08 Thread Ulrich Lauther
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 02:33:08PM +0200, Andre Klärner wrote: > > Actually the manual specifies this pretty nicely: > > == the fine manual, chapter 3.11: > Many users receive e-mail under a number of different addresses. To fully > use > Mutt's features here, the program must be able to rec

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-08 Thread Andre Klärner
On Tue 08.04.2014 11:09:26, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 08:48:04AM +0100, Christian Ebert wrote: > > * Ulrich Lauther on Tuesday, April 08, 2014 at 08:27:53 +0200 > > > The concept of "message is from you" is not clear to me. > > > How does mutt decide whether a message is from

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-08 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Ulrich Lauther [04-08-14 05:11]: > On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 08:48:04AM +0100, Christian Ebert wrote: > > * Ulrich Lauther on Tuesday, April 08, 2014 at 08:27:53 +0200 > > > The concept of "message is from you" is not clear to me. > > > How does mutt decide whether a message is from me or not? > >

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-08 Thread Ulrich Lauther
On Tue, Apr 08, 2014 at 08:48:04AM +0100, Christian Ebert wrote: > * Ulrich Lauther on Tuesday, April 08, 2014 at 08:27:53 +0200 > > The concept of "message is from you" is not clear to me. > > How does mutt decide whether a message is from me or not? > > Does it look at the From: field, and if so,

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-08 Thread Christian Ebert
* Ulrich Lauther on Tuesday, April 08, 2014 at 08:27:53 +0200 > The concept of "message is from you" is not clear to me. > How does mutt decide whether a message is from me or not? > Does it look at the From: field, and if so, what is it compared to? > My login-name? Read about the alternates comm

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-07 Thread Ulrich Lauther
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:22:59PM -0400, Jon LaBadie wrote: > On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:14:44PM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 03:25:06PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > > > I use: > > > folder-hook =outbox 'set index_format="%?M?v& ? %4C %Z %{%b %d} %-18.18F >

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-07 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:14:44PM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 03:25:06PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > > > I use: > > folder-hook =outbox 'set index_format="%?M?v& ? %4C %Z %{%b %d} %-18.18F > > (%4c) %s"' > > > %-18.18F does not work for me: I still see my own

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-07 Thread Derek Martin
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 11:14:44PM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote: > %-18.18F does not work for me: I still see my own name. > However, %-18.18t achieves what I want. Check out the alternates command; I believe that's why you're not getting what you expect with %F. -- Derek D. Martinhttp://www.

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-07 Thread Ulrich Lauther
On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 03:25:06PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > > I use: > folder-hook =outbox 'set index_format="%?M?v& ? %4C %Z %{%b %d} %-18.18F > (%4c) %s"' > %-18.18F does not work for me: I still see my own name. However, %-18.18t achieves what I want. Though the manual says: %F

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-07 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, April 07, 2014 a las 04:31:12PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan escribió: > > I can imagine that the problem is: a sender is always one person, while > > the recipients could be many. > > > > The *problem* is the setting of index_format for the outbox folder, it is > in the manual. You h

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Matthias Apitz [04-07-14 16:18]: > El día Monday, April 07, 2014 a las 09:12:23PM +0200, Ulrich Lauther escribió: > > > Hi all, > > > > I save my outgoing messages in a file outbox, > > using "set record=+outbox " in my .muttrc > > > > Now when I open this file (mutt -f outbox), > > I see the

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-07 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día Monday, April 07, 2014 a las 09:12:23PM +0200, Ulrich Lauther escribió: > Hi all, > > I save my outgoing messages in a file outbox, > using "set record=+outbox " in my .muttrc > > Now when I open this file (mutt -f outbox), > I see the subjects of the sent messages, that´s fine. > I also

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-07 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Ulrich Lauther [04-07-14 15:13]: > I save my outgoing messages in a file outbox, > using "set record=+outbox " in my .muttrc > > Now when I open this file (mutt -f outbox), > I see the subjects of the sent messages, that´s fine. > I also see the sender, who is always myself - no surprise. > It

displaying the outbox

2014-04-07 Thread Ulrich Lauther
Hi all, I save my outgoing messages in a file outbox, using "set record=+outbox " in my .muttrc Now when I open this file (mutt -f outbox), I see the subjects of the sent messages, that´s fine. I also see the sender, who is always myself - no surprise. It would be much more helpfull, to see the r