Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-16 Thread pbdlists
Edmund, In my first tests this worked great. My original change was after this, trying to 'eat up' the next input. But that didn't work nicely. This, however seems to do what I was looking for just fine. Thanks, Kurt On Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 03:16:13PM +, Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS wrote: > [EMAI

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-14 Thread Brendan Cully
On Friday, 14 January 2000 at 18:07, Mikko Hänninen wrote: > Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Fri, 14 Jan 2000: > > (2) You only access the email via POP or IMAP; and > > (3) You don't want to download the email and keep it on the > > client with e.g. fetchmail feeding pro

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-14 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-01-14-11:07:57 Mikko Hänninen: > Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Fri, 14 Jan 2000: > > (2) You only access the email via POP or IMAP; and > > (3) You don't want to download the email and keep it on the > > client with e.g. fetchmail feeding procmail (perhaps via > >

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-14 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-01-13-18:37:20 Matthew Hawkins: > On 2000-01-13 12:54:07 -0500, Bennett Todd wrote: > > But this isn't a limitation of the implementation, it's a limit of > > the goal specified. Better not to go there. > > A limitation of the goal... that's a new one to me! If you specify your goals as:

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-14 Thread Morten Bo Johansen
Jorge Godoy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And if he still thinks it's too hard, he can always use > "dotconfigurator". I don't have it's URL here, but it wouldn't be hard > to find it. I don't know if it was The Dotfile Generator you thought of. The URL of this program is here: http://www.imada.o

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-14 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > A limitation of the goal... that's a new one to me! > > If you specify your goals as: > > (1) You don't have a login on the mail server, and so can't > filter at delivery with procmail/maildrop/mailagent/...; > (2) You only access the

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-14 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I think if there was an option which would cause commands on tagged > messages (initiated with ;) to simply do nothing if there was no tagged > message, then it might work. I had a go at changing this behaviour in > the source, but failed. (No wonder, C is

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-14 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Fri, 14 Jan 2000: > (2) You only access the email via POP or IMAP; and > (3) You don't want to download the email and keep it on the > client with e.g. fetchmail feeding procmail (perhaps via > local MTA); > > then you have

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-14 Thread Kurt
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 11:18:21PM +1100, Matthew Hawkins wrote: > On 2000-01-12 16:08:06 -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > > > information on how to get new mail put in folders based on patterns. can > > > > Mutt doesn't do this. Setup something like procmail. > > however there's at least one val

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Jeffrey L . Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 13 Jan 2000: > If you find procmail too hard to use, you might also look at maildrop. > Another plus is that it works with Maildir mailboxes without patches. The latest version of procmail (out a month or few ago) has native support for maildir

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Matthew Hawkins
On 2000-01-13 11:23:37 -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > Matthew Hawkins [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Actually I think you can use folder-hook to implement a poor-man's > > procmail. Personally, I use procmail :) > > This would work, but only to sort when you first entered a folder. It > wouldn'

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Matthew Hawkins
On 2000-01-13 12:54:07 -0500, Bennett Todd wrote: > 2000-01-13-12:50:49 Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS: > > Nice, but some people want to leave mail on the server so that > > they can access it from other places as well. Not only that, take a corporate situation where the mail could be sensitive - you don'

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread brian moore
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 11:23:37AM -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > > I understand procmail doesn't go with IMAP at this point. But that doesn't > mean it makes sense for Mutt to do it. It's still the MDAs job to deliver > mail. As someone else mentioned, something should be written for IMAP to

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread brian moore
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 02:51:17PM -0500, Scott V. McGuire wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 02:29:21PM -0500, Bennett Todd wrote: > > 2000-01-13-14:27:28 Scott V. McGuire: > > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It > > > seems like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail)

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Charles Cazabon
David DeSimone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scott V. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It seems > > like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system > > when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Scott V. McGuire
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 01:54:30PM -0600, David DeSimone wrote: > Scott V. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It seems > > like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system > > when all I need is a program to l

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Holger Eitzenberger
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 05:15:01PM +0300, Sergei Kolobov wrote: > Mikko H?nninen wrote: > > Nick Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 12 Jan 2000: > > > Argh! I despise procmail, yes its powerfull, and can do alot, but > > > it's severly anoying. > > ... > > > yes procmail is powerfull, bu

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread David DeSimone
Scott V. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It seems > like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system > when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but immediately > send mail to my isp's smtp server. Wh

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Charles Cazabon
Scott V. McGuire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It seems > like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single user system > when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but immediately > send mail to my isp's smtp server. T

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Scott V. McGuire
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 02:29:21PM -0500, Bennett Todd wrote: > 2000-01-13-14:27:28 Scott V. McGuire: > > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It > > seems like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single > > user system when all I need is a program to look like sen

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-01-13-14:27:28 Scott V. McGuire: > Any ideas on not using a full blown MTA for outgoing mail? It > seems like overkill to run sendmail (or even qmail) on a single > user system when all I need is a program to look like sendmail but > immediately send mail to my isp's smtp server. That's eas

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes -> bypassing MTA

2000-01-13 Thread Scott V. McGuire
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 12:59:31PM -0600, Jeffrey L . Taylor wrote: > I bypass the MTA for incoming mail. I've added > > mda "/usr/local/bin/maildrop -f %F" > > to my .fetchmailrc file for each POP mailbox. I don't know if this > works with procmail. > > HTH, > Jeffrey > Any ideas on not

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jeffrey L . Taylor
I bypass the MTA for incoming mail. I've added mda "/usr/local/bin/maildrop -f %F" to my .fetchmailrc file for each POP mailbox. I don't know if this works with procmail. HTH, Jeffrey Quoting Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > 2000-01-13-07:18:21 Matthew Hawkins: > > There seems to be a

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-01-13-12:50:49 Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS: > Nice, but some people want to leave mail on the server so that > they can access it from other places as well. Sure. Are those same people the same ones who are also asking for filtering into different folders, and who cannot run procmail on their serve

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Edmund GRIMLEY EVANS
Bennett Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Try running procmail on a mail server you don't have an account on > > and your mailbox isn't actually physically owned by you anyway :) > > I have email from a _lot_ of places coming in to my mail server. > > Then I have fetchmail pull it down from there.

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jeremy Blosser
Matthew Hawkins [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > On 2000-01-12 16:08:06 -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > > > I've read the online documentation at www.mutt.org and I cant find specific > > > information on how to get new mail put in folders based on patterns. can > > > > Mutt doesn't do this. Setup so

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-01-13-07:18:21 Matthew Hawkins: > There seems to be a lot of detractors to the requested > functionality, however there's at least one valid case that mutt > can be in where the functionality is quite useful. This is when > the spoolfile is an IMAP INBOX folder. That folder could get mail >

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jeffrey L . Taylor
If you find procmail too hard to use, you might also look at maildrop. Another plus is that it works with Maildir mailboxes without patches. The filtering rules are quite readable. HTH, Jeffrey

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Sergei Kolobov
Mikko Hänninen wrote: > Nick Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 12 Jan 2000: > > Argh! I despise procmail, yes its powerfull, and can do alot, but > > it's severly anoying. > ... > > yes procmail is powerfull, but its far too much of a > > hassle for just setting up a simple filter, >

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread David T-G
Mikko, et al -- ...and then Mikko Hänninen said... % Nick Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 12 Jan 2000: % > I've read the online documentation at www.mutt.org and I cant find specific % > information on how to get new mail put in folders based on patterns. % % Mutt doesn't do this, it'

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread David T-G
Nick -- ...and then Nick Jennings said... % % there a reason why this is something that is continuously not a feature in % UNIX mail clients? yes procmail is powerfull, but its far too much of a Simple: in the UNIX world, little tools that do a few things, or just one thing, *very*well* get put

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Matthew Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Thu, 13 Jan 2000: > There seems to be a lot of detractors to the requested functionality, > however there's at least one valid case that mutt can be in where the > functionality is quite useful. This is when the spoolfile is an IMAP > INBOX folder. To

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Matthew Hawkins
On 2000-01-12 16:08:06 -0600, Jeremy Blosser wrote: > > I've read the online documentation at www.mutt.org and I cant find specific > > information on how to get new mail put in folders based on patterns. can > > Mutt doesn't do this. Setup something like procmail. Actually I think you can use

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jorge Godoy
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 03:28:30PM -0800, Nick Jennings wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:56:44PM -0800, Shawn D. McPeek wrote: > > > > It's not a feature because it's not the job of a mail client to deliver > > mail. There are a lot of things mail clients don't do - delivering mail > > is one

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jorge Godoy
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:56:44PM -0800, Shawn D. McPeek wrote: > > :> > :> newmail-hook ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) +mutt-users-mail > > What's so hard about: > > :0: > * ^Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > mutt-users-mail > > I really don't think that was too hard. And if he still thinks it's too hard,

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-13 Thread Jan Ulrich Hasecke
Nick Jennings schrieb: >Since I started using Mutt, I stopped developing this mail >client, but now I might start again, or maybe add this feature to mutt, is >there a reason why this is something that is continuously not a feature in >UNIX mail clients? yes procmail is powerfull, but its far too

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-12 Thread Nick Jennings
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:56:44PM -0800, Shawn D. McPeek wrote: > > It's not a feature because it's not the job of a mail client to deliver > mail. There are a lot of things mail clients don't do - delivering mail > is one of them. Sorting mail is not delivering it, the mail is deliver

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-12 Thread Nick Jennings
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:59:52PM -0800, brian moore wrote: > On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:47:57PM -0800, Nick Jennings wrote: > > > > Argh! I despise procmail, yes its powerfull, and can do alot, but > > it's severly anoying. I think it _IS_ a mail clients job to do filtering, > > after all,

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-12 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Nick Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 12 Jan 2000: > Argh! I despise procmail, yes its powerfull, and can do alot, but > it's severly anoying. ... > yes procmail is powerfull, but its far too much of a > hassle for just setting up a simple filter, You could try maildrop instead, t

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-12 Thread brian moore
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:47:57PM -0800, Nick Jennings wrote: > On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 12:20:23AM +0200, Mikko Hänninen wrote: > > Nick Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 12 Jan 2000: > > > I've read the online documentation at www.mutt.org and I cant find specific > > > information on h

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-12 Thread Dan Lipofsky
On Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:47:57PM -0800, Nick Jennings wrote: > Argh! I despise procmail, yes its powerfull, and can do alot, but > it's severly anoying. I think it _IS_ a mail clients job to do filtering, > after all, it checks the /var/spool/mail/ for new mail and drops > in in your inbox

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-12 Thread Shawn D. McPeek
Previously, Nick Jennings wrote: :> :> Argh! I despise procmail, yes its powerfull, and can do alot, but :> it's severly anoying. I think it _IS_ a mail clients job to do filtering, :> after all, it checks the /var/spool/mail/ for new mail and drops :> in in your inbox, if it drops it in the

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-12 Thread Nick Jennings
On Thu, Jan 13, 2000 at 12:20:23AM +0200, Mikko Hänninen wrote: > Nick Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 12 Jan 2000: > > I've read the online documentation at www.mutt.org and I cant find specific > > information on how to get new mail put in folders based on patterns. > > Mutt doesn't

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-12 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Nick Jennings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on Wed, 12 Jan 2000: > I've read the online documentation at www.mutt.org and I cant find specific > information on how to get new mail put in folders based on patterns. Mutt doesn't do this, it's not Mutt's job. You need to use a mail filtering tool such

Re: New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-12 Thread Jeremy Blosser
Nick Jennings [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > Hello, new to mutt and due to the high volume of messages on this list I > have bumped the priority of this question up to the top. Huh? > I've read the online documentation at www.mutt.org and I cant find specific > information on how to get new mail p

New Mail Sent to different mailboxes

2000-01-12 Thread Nick Jennings
Hello, new to mutt and due to the high volume of messages on this list I have bumped the priority of this question up to the top. I've read the online documentation at www.mutt.org and I cant find specific information on how to get new mail put in folders based on patterns. can someone provide s