Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-26 Thread Lars Hecking
> > Mutt doesnt ask for it - and postfix / exim / qmail dont implement DSN at all > > Postfix now supports DNS: > > Major changes with snapshot-2924 > > > DSN formatted bounced/delayed mail notifications, finally. The > human-

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-19 Thread Matej Cepl
On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 02:52:01PM -0700, Monte Milanuk wrote: > I highly recommend the script 'install-sendmail' available at: > > http://cork.linux.ie/projects/install-sendmail/ Well, it may be wonderfull, but it didn't work for me -- I really, do not remember, what was the problem. But cer

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-18 Thread Matej Cepl
> oddities. Meanwhile, Fetchmail, which actually exists to fit this role, > works to actually address all these things, and if you want to pop mail to > your machine from a remote account, something like this still makes the > most sense to use. If you don't like Fetchmail, you can use one of th

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-17 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Brendan Cully [mutt-users] : >nail. I've talked to him about IMAP and seen him trying to read his >mail on the road, and at least a couple of years ago he didn't >really seem to understand what IMAP was for. Probably had something >to do with the paucity of decent IMAP clients th

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-17 Thread Lawrence Mitchell
* On [010517 19:15] Mike Schiraldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, i'm sick of using external encryption suites like GPG. I think mutt > should absorb all their functionality. And all those external apps in > .mailcap, too. And i'm sick of having to install Unix before i can use > mutt. mutt is

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-17 Thread Brian Nelson
Brendan Cully wrote: > IMAP always gets dragged into this, and it's a red herring. Fetchmail > cannot fully replace the functionality of mutt's IMAP code, and > neither can any other tool. IMAP is a mailbox driver, and as such is > the province of the MUA. What confuses me about fetchmail is that

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Thomas Roessler [mutt-users] : > Pine also includes a crappy editor (pico - which is nevertheless > used by some people in order to ruin their configuration files), and > a full-blown file manager (pilot, if I recall this correctly). Pico is a pretty good editor for newbies (at whom pine wa

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2001-05-16 15:24:24 -0400, Brendan Cully wrote: >what would be cool is if you could say >sendmail='securesendmail -u $smtp_user -p $smtp_pass' >ie mutt exposes its config variables, and reevaluates them when >running the command. But I haven't thought about how to do that, >it's certainly i

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2001-05-16 23:31:03 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: >Pine for instance? It normally delivers to local sendmail, but >will happily deliver to an external delivery server (using >sendmail -bs and talking smtp) Pine also includes a crappy editor (pico - which is nevertheless used by som

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Brian Nelson
Some people wrote: > > Sorry, but Unix is built out of tools. Use them (or use Emacs, which > > has everything built in). > > > You mean mutt should be like emacs and have everything built-in? Not to start another flamewar, but emacs doesn't have everything "built-in". Rather, functionality is e

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Biju Chacko proclaimed on mutt-users that: > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: > > Then you would better serve your agenda by contributing to that > > project than by lobbying for Mutt to bend in that direction. If > > you want to work on an SMTP-aware MUA, more pow

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Claus Assmann
On Wed, May 16, 2001, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > Yes, telling the user "try later" or "postpone your message and fix your > config" is better than injecting the message into a poorly configured > /usr/sbin/sendail that will drop it on the floor without reporting it. What a great alternative

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Rich Lafferty
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 05:50:34PM +0200, Louis-David Mitterrand ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > * On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 07:54:01AM -0700, Claus Assmann wrote: > > On Wed, May 16, 2001, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > > > > > > You're going to add an MTA first (reimplement sendmail). Then > > >

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2001-05-16 19:31 +0530, Biju Chacko wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: > > But don't make Mutt users pay for something they won't use. > > While I agree with the need to keep one's MUAs and MTAs seperate, I find your > argument flawed. There are literally d

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Frank Derichsweiler
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 04:11:46PM +0200, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > * On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 03:50:45PM +0200, Frank Derichsweiler wrote: > > Sorry, but _IMHO_ a person not willing to install / use a MTA separat > > from Mutt will not use mutt either. He want to use some software with > > a

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Claus Assmann
On Wed, May 16, 2001, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > > You're going to add an MTA first (reimplement sendmail). Then > > Huh? Adding a few dozen lines of code to deliver via SMTP is > "reimplementing sendmail"? You need a serious reality check. "a few dozen lines of code"... Did you ever write

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Biju Chacko
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 02:40:33PM +0200, Andre Majorel wrote: > Then you would better serve your agenda by contributing to that > project than by lobbying for Mutt to bend in that direction. If > you want to work on an SMTP-aware MUA, more power to you. But > don't make Mutt users pay for somethi

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Frank Derichsweiler
On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 11:45:51AM +0200, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > Seriously, installing, configuring, running, administering a simple MTA > like ssmtp may be not much to ask but it's still another piece of > software to deal with, concepts to master, docs to read, precious time > people do

Re: request for SMTP integration (was Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.)

2001-05-16 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2001-05-16 11:45 +0200, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > Purists and > Cassandras that cry out each time a user asks for SMTP delivery in mutt > are out of touch. No they're not. They're very much in touch with what they need and want. > Mutt should be accessible out of the box. It should wor

Re: Mail using non-local SMTP server.

2001-05-15 Thread Mr. Wade
Manoj Naik wrote: > I want to use mutt to send mail to non-local SMTP server. Mutt does not do that. What it will do is call a commandline program, (usually sendmail,) and feed it the complete message, header and body. Generally, that commandline program called by Mutt will then send the messag

Mail using non-local SMTP server.

2001-05-15 Thread Manoj Naik
Hello, I want to use mutt to send mail to non-local SMTP server. I have read FAQ which says it is not mutts job and I have to configyre the MTa for this. Can anybody help me out on how to configure the MTA like sendmail/null mailer to do this and any changes in mutt configuration required for the