On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 04:11:46PM +0200, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote:
> * On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 03:50:45PM +0200, Frank Derichsweiler wrote:
> > Sorry, but _IMHO_ a person not willing to install / use a MTA separat
> > from Mutt will not use mutt either. He want to use some software with
> > a polished GUI with some buttons to click and press and all that suff ...
> > Installing a very tiny one should be no problem.
>
> Step down from your high horses for a minute and consider:
It is not easy to convince somebody to use a textual-only MUA. _IMHO_
some people would like to get the ultimate tool which can solve all
theirs problems. What is wrong about "separation of concerns". Just
keep different things different. Producing mail with an MUA and
delivery of a mail by a MTA are definitely two different
things. Therefore I do not see _any_ _good_ reason for a _tight_
integration of SMTP-features into mutt.
> - many windows users have dear memories their DOS sofware and
> (Wordperfect 5.1 anyone?) and would welcome a Cygwin mutt, but not at
> the price of configuring some additional software,
Then the cygwin mutt should also provide a tiny SMTP server, but
_separate_ from the mutt executable.
> > Developers, please keep all that SMTP-stuff out of mutt.
>
> In what way can you be inconvenienced by an _optional_ feature you are
> _not_ required to use? That baffles my ass to no end.
Optional features make it in some sense harder to maintain the
software. In case of _tight_ integration _into_ mutt the mutt
developers have to take care of the SMTP part of the programm,
too.
_I_ _personally_ do not have a problem, if you can download a mutt++
package, which includes the "core" mutt, a tiny SMTP send-only server
and some scripts to configure and build both togehter. But keep the
two things separate.
> > As already posted the suggestion to add a small MTA as a separate
> > program with separate options and separate configuration should be an option.
>
> Half-measure. Integrate the damn patch already and make it a
> compile-time option.
>
_You_ might want to provide such a patch.
I ask the mutt developers to focus on the _core_ _MUA_ functionality.
Frank
