Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Andre Klärner
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 07:22:13PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 01:45:42AM +0100, Andre Kl?rner wrote: > > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:04:38PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > > > Two questions about variable width fonts, then > > > > > > First, how does Mutt do with variable wi

how to enable mutt receive mail automaticlly?

2012-11-23 Thread horse_rivers
hi,     everytime  I need to shift-g to receive mail by mutt manully , which is not convenient,  so is there method to enable mutt receive mail  automaticlly?          if it can remind me about new mail ,I think it is  the best client tool ! thanks!

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 01:45:42AM +0100, Andre Klärner wrote: > > So in most cases I have seen the terminal that renders the fonts is putting > each character in a cell, so you get no benefit from using a variable width > font, despite that it looks ugly in most cases. So I have come to the > con

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Peter Davis
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012, at 08:22 PM, Jim Graham wrote: > Ok, but if variable width is such a good thing, using the twisted logic > that's been posted in this thread, every possible environment either > supports it or it's crap...right? So it should even be supported by > Mutt on a VT-100 terminal.

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 01:45:42AM +0100, Andre Kl?rner wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:04:38PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > > Two questions about variable width fonts, then > > > > First, how does Mutt do with variable width fonts? I gather that it does > > handle them, but how? My versio

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Andre Klärner
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 05:04:38PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > Two questions about variable width fonts, then > > First, how does Mutt do with variable width fonts? I gather that it does > handle them, but how? My version (1.5.21, according to "mutt -v") Well, as mutt is a CLI application it

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Jim Graham
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:47:46PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: > BTW, sending a variable width format allows for 72 character > rendering, so these dated ergonomics studies are not at odds with an > unwrapped source text anyway. Two questions about variable width fonts, then First,

Re: Mutt locking up, how to trace?

2012-11-23 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 23Nov2012 10:42, John Long wrote: | On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:40:33PM +0100, Richard wrote: | > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:42:27PM +, John Long wrote: | > > My mutt on Linux has been locking up lately. I didn't compile it with debug | > > support. Is there any way to figure out why this i

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Tony's unattended mail
On 2012-11-23, Derek Martin wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:17:27PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: >> > At this time, the generally accepted assumption is to wrap at around >> > 72--76 characters >>=20 >> Right.. one million smokers can't be wrong. > > It's been pointed out that this n

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Derek Martin
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 09:27:23AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > However, I also recognize that mutt is, to a large extent, obsolete. > Of course it still appeals to those who cling to the text/plain, > 72-characters-per-line limit model from the 1970's, but that > audience is a smaller and smaller p

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-23 Thread Derek Martin
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:17:27PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: > > At this time, the generally accepted assumption is to wrap at around > > 72--76 characters > > Right.. one million smokers can't be wrong. It's been pointed out that this number comes from scientific studies regarding the

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Jim Graham
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 03:43:21AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:21:18PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > > Interesting, considering that Unix doesn't use CR/LF ... it uses a single > > newline instead. So I suppose that means that the entire e-mail, from > > the "From " li

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ Peter Davis Wrote On Fri 23.Nov'12 at 14:27:23 GMT ] > This will be my last comment on the subject, since straying off > topic is, I think, a worse transgression than top posting or using > long lines. I apologize for prolonging this. I'll try to be as > explicit as I can, to clarify my views on

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 07:22:03PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: > Apparently you're unaware of the last 30 or 40 years of human > factors and usability research, or the fact that other people are > using computers besides a bunch of ivory tower geeks who think users > will follow whatever strictures a

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 01:21:18PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:09:17AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > > > > > Because there are no CR/LF in a paragraph then it is treated all as one > > line. > > Interesting, considering that Unix doesn't use CR/LF ... it uses a single

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:37:57PM -0600, David Champion wrote: > * On 21 Nov 2012, Chris Bannister wrote: > > Because there are no CR/LF in a paragraph then it is treated all as one > > line. If the first "line" of a paragraph appears at the bottom of the > > screen as yours did then mutt display

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Peter Davis
On 11/22/12 9:57 PM, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 07:22:03PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: .snip. Nope. Totally wrong. The responsibility is entire with the design and the code, and never with the user. Otherwise it's a failed product. You're absolu

Re: Mutt locking up, how to trace?

2012-11-23 Thread John Long
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:40:33PM +0100, Richard wrote: > On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:42:27PM +, John Long wrote: > > My mutt on Linux has been locking up lately. I didn't compile it with debug > > support. Is there any way to figure out why this is happening? I sometimes > > lock up in the mid

Re: Expiring Messages

2012-11-23 Thread Jamie Paul Griffin
[ David Champion Wrote On Sun 18.Nov'12 at 16:32:32 GMT ] > This is a quick hack and untested beyond the basics, but feel free to > work from it. It is, or should be, a complete reimplementation of > Gary's script in Python. > > #!/usr/bin/env python > > import os > import sys > import time >

Re: Putting table in email?

2012-11-23 Thread Christian Brabandt
Hi Christoph! On Mi, 21 Nov 2012, Christoph Möbius wrote: > Also sprach Bernard Massot am Mi, 21 Nov 2012 um 00:18:09 +0100: > > On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 04:37:11PM -0600, Jim Graham wrote: > > > Note the corners: periods on top, and ` ' on the bottom. IMHO, this > > > looks better. But that IS