Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-11 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 05:27:09PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 04:31:02PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > Hrm, the replying (and pager) behavior seems the same to me; do I need > > to set anything else? > > > > Patch applied cleanly except a reject on mutt.h, which was

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-11 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 04:31:02PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 04:17:00PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 02:22:47PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > > After thinking about it, I'm leaning towards something like > > > $reflow_space_quotes. If

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-11 Thread Will Yardley
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 04:17:00PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 02:22:47PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > After thinking about it, I'm leaning towards something like > > $reflow_space_quotes. If set, and your $indent_string = "| ", ">>>Foo" > > would become "| > >

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-11 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 02:22:47PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > After thinking about it, I'm leaning towards something like > $reflow_space_quotes. If set, and your $indent_string = "| ", ">>>Foo" > would become "| > > > Foo". If unset, it would become "| >>>Foo". > (Keeping the weird spacin

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-11 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 01:48:57PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 12:34:29PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:12:37PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > So based on that, I understood this to mean that $reflow_text and > $reflow_wrap are specifically ap

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-11 Thread Will Yardley
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 12:34:29PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:12:37PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 05:49:40PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > > What happens with unpatched mutt-1.5.23 if you unset reflow_text? > > > > However, if I'm

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-11 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:46:32AM +0100, Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 10-12-2015 15:37:29 -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > >>>foo foo >>foo > > This is a bug (the same happens below, snipped for brevity). > I think what the Gentoo patch tries to achieve is to keep con

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-11 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:12:37PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 05:49:40PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > What happens with unpatched mutt-1.5.23 if you unset reflow_text? > > However, if I'm understanding the description right, it seems like this > should be ignored li

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-11 Thread Vsevolod Volkov
Hello, On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 03:37:29PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: KJM> Below, the first column indicates the "original" content of an email. KJM> The second column is the output when replying using the FreeBSD patch, KJM> and the third column is output when replying using the Gentoo patch.

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-11 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 10-12-2015 15:37:29 -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > I have been trying to read up on format=flowed and the patches you > referenced, but frankly both the above patch and the revised gentoo > version at: > http://sourceforge.net/p/gentoomuttpatches/code/ci/default/tree/07-quote.patch > make no

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-10 Thread Will Yardley
ps - Given text known to be f=f, I'd also prefer to see the quoted section like: > > > Yay! > > > > Noes! vs. > >> Yay! > > > > Noes! which is more consistent (and, I think, what the $stuff_all_quoted may have done). Since with format=flowed text, lines starting with a '>' are quoted, and the d

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-10 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 05:49:40PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 04:12:52PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > FWIW, I do not have $quote_quoted set, but I'm pretty sure the behavior > > is as I expect with the FreeBSD patch for some reason. I've used the > > FreeBSD ports v

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-10 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 04:12:52PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > FWIW, I do not have $quote_quoted set, but I'm pretty sure the behavior > is as I expect with the FreeBSD patch for some reason. I've used the > FreeBSD ports version, but have also used that patch directly when > building on a Mac. W

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-10 Thread Will Yardley
On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 03:37:29PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 09:51:39PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > I would also love to see a better fix for quoting flowed text > > when replying using *non* flowed text. Bugs #3309, #3001 have > > a better description. FreeBSD'

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-12-10 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 09:51:39PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > I would also love to see a better fix for quoting flowed text > when replying using *non* flowed text. Bugs #3309, #3001 have > a better description. FreeBSD's patch (patch-1.5.XX.vvv.quote) > http://download.openpkg.org/components/ca

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-24 Thread Will Yardley
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 10:28:24AM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 09:51:39PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > > I would also love to see a better fix for quoting flowed text when > > replying using *non* flowed text. > > Bugs #3309, #3001 have a better description. FreeBSD's

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-24 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 09:51:39PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: > As a user of mutt, I would really love to see one of the trash folder > patches make it into a release; this is a feature that most people > expect now, and I think the various arguments for why the patch is > better than just using ho

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-24 Thread Will Yardley
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 02:05:54PM +0100, Moritz Barsnick wrote: > On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 20:01:03 -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > > I was originally thinking about one more 1.5.x release just to give > > more time, but I'm definitely open to just pushing straight for a > > 1.6.0 as the next

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-24 Thread Moritz Barsnick
Hi, I pretty much "+1" the NNTP support. Disregarding the intrusive nature of the patch, the "similarity" (I know, not "equality") of features in and the nature of SMTP and e-mail vs. NNTP make mutt an *extremely* wise choice for me as a newsreader. NNTP not being widespread anymore would indeed be

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-24 Thread Moritz Barsnick
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 20:01:03 -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > I was originally thinking about one more 1.5.x release just to give > more time, but I'm definitely open to just pushing straight for a > 1.6.0 as the next release. I'm all for this. Do it like Linux Torvalds: Just bump the versio

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-24 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Kevin J. McCarthy has written on Monday, 23 November, at 12:26: >Now, that's not the patch's fault: mutt doesn't have any "plugin" hooks. >It would be nice if we did, but it won't happen for 1.6.0. When I have >some more time, I'll try to look more closely at the patch and see if >ther

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-24 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Will Yardley has written on Monday, 23 November, at 21:51: >My vote is for not including NNTP; like it or not, barely anyone >supports it anymore (even when I worked at a fairly old school >university, we phased our our NNTP servers several years ago, and all of >my ISPs have shut down

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-23 Thread Will Yardley
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 08:01:03PM -0800, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > I know you have an extensive list of patches you maintain. Are > there any you'd like to get committed before 1.6.0? What about the > command-on-new-mail series? (No pressure, just asking...) Very happy that there's some mo

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-23 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 12:27:13PM +0200, Andrej N. Gritsenko wrote: > Talking about patches I would like to see NNTP support included into next > release at last, that way it not only can be translated but also bugs can > be addressed and fixed, now it's too hard to do something with them since >

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-23 Thread Andrej N. Gritsenko
Hello! Kevin J. McCarthy has written on Sunday, 22 November, at 20:01: >I believe we're on the same page here. I was originally thinking about >one more 1.5.x release just to give more time, but I'm definitely open >to just pushing straight for a 1.6.0 as the next release. Recently, >I've m

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-22 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 10:16:42PM -0600, David Champion wrote: > Agreed - but in particular, I think that the 1.6 blockers in Trac are > too big. They've been blocking 1.6 for years, and I think we're to the > point now where 1.6 is more important than those particular issues. I > think that we

Re: 1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-22 Thread David Champion
* On 22 Nov 2015, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > I think we could relegate the even/odd versioning to history, apply a > > 1.6 tag as soon as we clear all in-flight bugfix patches, and continue > > with only one tagged series from there. (Development would simply be > > untagged.) > > I believe we

1.6.0 release plans

2015-11-22 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy
[moving this to its own thread] On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 03:09:39PM -0600, David Champion wrote: > * On 22 Nov 2015, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote: > > Personally, and I haven't discussed this with the other committers yet, > > I would like to release a 1.5.25 around February and try for a 1.6.0 > > Aug