Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-31 Thread romildo
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 12:58:20AM -0500, Matto Marjanovic wrote: > > Romildo: 544x304 is a very strange framesize. You say it should > have roughly a 4:3 display aspect ratio? Hmm... then it seems like > it has roughly a 3:4 pixel aspect ratio. Not a common SAR. This movie has been ripped

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-31 Thread Matto Marjanovic
Hiya, I think you and Romildo are suffering from similar problems. (And I just got Romildo's post, too --- the re-ordering and delays on the Sourceforge lists are really crazy these days.) >> >I tried to use some automatic guesses from y4mscaler, but they did not >> >do what's IMHO righ

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas Börkel
HI! Matto Marjanovic wrote: >Sorry to reply on the list, but your host ist blacklisted, so I cannot >send email to you. (This message is meant for *me*, right? Lots of people on this list, and quite a few even involved in this thread. Right. ;-) Who/what blacklisted my host? We've been re

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas Börkel
HI! Matto Marjanovic wrote: >Sorry to reply on the list, but your host ist blacklisted, so I cannot >send email to you. (This message is meant for *me*, right? Lots of people on this list, and quite a few even involved in this thread. Right. ;-) Who/what blacklisted my host? We've been re

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-27 Thread scholnik
> (Hmm... I wonder if there is something beneficial to the cubic-esque gradual > taper, versus blurring/"noise-reduction" via lowering the cutoff frequency > of an ideally sharp low-pass filter Just musing to myself.) In terms of visual appeal, that's probably an empirical question. But

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-27 Thread Matto Marjanovic
>From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Thomas_B=F6rkel?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:06:59 +0100 > >HI! > >Sorry to reply on the list, but your host ist blacklisted, so I cannot >send email to you. (This message is meant for *me*, right? Lots of people on this list, and quite a few ev

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-27 Thread Thomas Börkel
HI! Sorry to reply on the list, but your host ist blacklisted, so I cannot send email to you. I tried to use some automatic guesses from y4mscaler, but they did not do what's IMHO right. Example: I have an NTSC AVI with 640x352 16:9. I want to transcode it to MPEG2 NTSC 4:3 (720x480). According

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-26 Thread Matto Marjanovic
>> > The sinc* kernels are very bad at removing noise. IMHO, the >> > cubic* kernels are better for this job... I'm guessing that the cause behind Nicholas' HO is that the cubic kernels remove a lot of the *lower* frequency content --- the taper of such filters in frequency space is very grad

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-26 Thread Matto Marjanovic
... >>y4mscaler -S option=sinc:8 ... >> >> will perform very high quality scaling and I think the artifacts >> will disappear. > >The sinc* kernels are very bad at removing noise. IMHO, the >cubic* kernels are better for this job... A factor to consider (for why the sharp

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > What about yuvmedianfilter? Is it a spatial lowpass filter? > > It's a nonlinear spatial filter that generally gives an overall > lowpass effect. Ideally it removes noise without attenuating high > signal frequencies (thus preserving edges), but

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Nicolas Boos wrote: > > That's what yuvdenoise is for :) > > For "big" noise only... :-) As in "VHS" ;) > Yes, but a _clean_ source is rare... If source is noisy (even a DV (from miniDV or Digital8) is very clean. DVDs are clean, at least for

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread scholnik
> > But it would be nice to have a spatial lowpass filter in the > > toolbox also to reduce noise that way. > > What about yuvmedianfilter? Is it a spatial lowpass filter? It's a nonlinear spatial filter that generally gives an overall lowpass effect. Ideally it removes noise without attenuati

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread Nicolas Boos
Le Thu, 22 Jan 2004 13:06:13 -0800 (PST) "Steven M. Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrivait : > > The sinc* kernels are very bad at removing noise. IMHO, the > > cubic* kernels are better for this job... > > That's what yuvdenoise is for :) For "big" noise only... :-) > For clean sour

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread Richard Ellis
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 05:30:55PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > But it would be nice to have a spatial lowpass filter in the > toolbox also to reduce noise that way. What about yuvmedianfilter? Is it a spatial lowpass filter? --- The

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread scholnik
> > The sinc* kernels are very bad at removing noise. IMHO, the > > cubic* kernels are better for this job... > > That's what yuvdenoise is for :) Well, sort of. It removes noise temporally. But it would be nice to have a spatial lowpass filter in the toolbox also to reduce noise that wa

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, Nicolas Boos wrote: > The sinc* kernels are very bad at removing noise. IMHO, the > cubic* kernels are better for this job... That's what yuvdenoise is for :) For clean sources the sinc kernels are better at preserving detail (it's an open question h

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread Nicolas Boos
Le Thu, 22 Jan 2004 10:21:41 -0800 (PST) "Steven M. Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> écrivait : Hello Steven, [...] > "If I use -q 2 or -q 3, I get pulsating (every second or so) block > artifacts in the background, which I get not with -q 4." > > I wonder if those artifacts are also due to t

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, [ISO-8859-1] Thomas Börkel wrote: > > "If I use -q 2 or -q 3, I get pulsating (every second or so) block > > artifacts in the background, which I get not with -q 4." > I tried without scaling and still have the artifacts. Maybe it's the > source material. That mig

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread Thomas Börkel
HI! Steven M. Schultz wrote: I can see light vertical stripes in bright scenes in my encoded result. I seem to recall transcode's -Z scaling causing problems for someone else in the past. A (much) better way to perform scaling is to use 'y4mscaler'. You can find y4mscaler

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004, [ISO-8859-1] Thomas Börkel wrote: > Bernhard Praschinger wrote: > > > >>I can see light vertical stripes in bright scenes in my encoded result. > > > > How large is the stripe ? > > Do you scale (guessed from the -Z option) the picture ? > > If yes does it also happen when

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread Thomas Börkel
HI! Bernhard Praschinger wrote: Hallo I can see light vertical stripes in bright scenes in my encoded result. I can't see them in the original AVI (Xvid). How large ist the stripe ? Do you scale (guessed from the -Z option) the picture ? If yest does it also happen when you don't scale it ? That

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Vertical stripes

2004-01-22 Thread Bernhard Praschinger
Hallo > I can see light vertical stripes in bright scenes in my encoded result. > I can't see them in the original AVI (Xvid). How large ist the stripe ? Do you scale (guessed from the -Z option) the picture ? If yest does it also happen when you don't scale it ? That it would be from scaling.