Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-21 Thread Michael Hanke
Am Dienstag 15 Februar 2005 18.52 schrieb Steven M. Schultz: > > Did anyone try to use alternative compilers? > > Never got around to doing that. It was simpler (or so it seemed) > to get a faster system ;) > Since the issue was puzzling me, I tried to get the best out of my box. her

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-15 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Michael Hanke wrote: > I'm using the recommendation -t 3 by Steven Boswell. The source material is > very (not to say extremly) noisy. I think the recommendation for extremely noisy material is '-t 4' (and I have used 5 for the worst material). That paramet

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-14 Thread Michael Hanke
Am Dienstag 15 Februar 2005 00.42 schrieb Steven M. Schultz: > > On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Michael Hanke wrote: > > > I count y4mdenoise an excellent piece of software but I thought that I make > > something wrong: On my machine (1.2GHz Athlon) I obtain a denoising rate of > > 0.3 frames/sec. (tha

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-14 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Michael Hanke wrote: > I count y4mdenoise an excellent piece of software but I thought that I make > something wrong: On my machine (1.2GHz Athlon) I obtain a denoising rate of > 0.3 frames/sec. (that is, 5 days for a movie) This is far too slow for That is a litt

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-14 Thread Michael Hanke
Hi, Am Samstag 12 Februar 2005 20.47 schrieb Steven M. Schultz: > The final total elapsed time of the two encoding runs: > > dual G5: 34hrs 7min 1.3 frames/sec > dual Opteron: 15hrs 46 min 2.80 frames/sec > I count y4mdenoise an excellent piece of software but I thought that I

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-13 Thread Roine Gustafsson
On Feb 13, 2005, at 9:13 AM, Steven M. Schultz wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that a movie media made of several layers does not have the same granularity (which does obably apply on classic still cameras as well). The blue layer seems to be made of bigger grains than other,

Re: Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-13 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ok no other way than working on the RGB before YUV Take a look at the utilties/filters in the NetPBM package. Some of them handle 'streams' (back-to-back) PNM images - I seem to recall some denoising filters in that package

Re: Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-13 Thread e.chalaron
> You can reconstruct _a_ blue from the U and V planes but it won't > be the _original_ blue. That is what I was suspecting ... Ok no other way than working on the RGB before YUV > Good Luck! euphemism :-) Cheers E --- S

Re: Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-13 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > that a movie media made of several layers does not have the same granularity > (which does obably apply on classic still cameras as well). > The blue layer seems to be made of bigger grains than other, therefore not > having the same resolution.

Re: Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread e.chalaron
Gday I think I am gonna be a pain again. Following the setup of my telecine machine and further readings (yes, I did RTFM on this one), it appears that a movie media made of several layers does not have the same granularity (which does obably apply on classic still cameras as well). The blue la

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Dave Dodge
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 11:36:27AM -0800, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Roine Gustafsson wrote: > > It's an urban myth that 64bit is faster than 32bit, like people assume > > a 2GHz computer is twice as fast as a 1GHz computer. > > It's also an urban myth that 64bit is slo

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Dave Dodge
On Sat, Feb 12, 2005 at 07:16:12PM +0100, Roine Gustafsson wrote: > However, I'll wager the cluster of 32bit beige boxes would be more bang > for the buck than a honkin' 64 bit Bigiron UltraPower. Atleast for > rendering. An off the shelf Opteron or G5 will be a lot cheaper than the same amount

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Amaury Jacquot
Steven M. Schultz wrote: if yes, you may want to hack it so that it locks each thread to a particular processor, taking into account the data transfers between I think the benefits of pinning are over rated - and it's not portable (different systems either do it differently or don't support it

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Amaury Jacquot wrote: > >> The Opteron-250 with its 2.4GHz clock is about *2X* faster > >> than the > >> 2GHz G5/PPC system I have! What took 34 hours to run on the G5 > >> (or the > > is that G5 PPC dual processor or not ? Of course. I haven't (wit

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Roine Gustafsson wrote: > Interesting. What was the off-the-shelf price for the Opteron? The At the time the Opteron-250 cpu was $825. Or were you thinking of the complete system price? I didn't buy a complete system - just a motherboard/cpu/memo

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Steven M. Schultz
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Roine Gustafsson wrote: > But clusters are difficult. They eat lots of electricity and put out > vast amounts of heat. They are also quite difficult to administrate and > only specific tasks scale well. Very true. Some things (dealing with weather data) scale well

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Roine Gustafsson
A good 64bit CPU (64 bit data) in a 32 bit OS (32 bit address space) will be faster. However, I'll wager the cluster of 32bit beige boxes would be more bang for the buck than a honkin' 64 bit Bigiron UltraPower. Atleast for rendering. Weta used a cluster of 2.8Ghz Xeons, for probably very well

Re: Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread e.chalaron
Gday Roine Well ... If I follow, it sounds to be better off with a couple of nice 32 bits in cluster mode than a 64 ?? E just end user > Therefore, applications that do not use the larger addressing space > won't be any faster on a "64 bit operating system". If anything, it > just means 2x t

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread raray
I've been looking into getting just such a machine to replace my dual 1GHz PIII. How about posting your system specs. Richard Ray On Sat, 12 Feb 2005, Steven M. Schultz wrote: > Howdy - > > On Wednesday and Thursday I put together a new dual Opteron-250 > system and installed SuSE 9.

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Roine Gustafsson
On Feb 12, 2005, at 1:10 PM, Amaury Jacquot wrote: 64bit is generally slower than 32bit. The only benefit of 64bit is non-segmented addressing of several gigabytes of data. If you don't need that then 64 bit adressing is just overhead. no it's not. 64 bit on a 32 bit processor is smaller because

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Amaury Jacquot
Roine Gustafsson wrote: On Feb 12, 2005, at 9:54 AM, Steven M. Schultz wrote: Howdy - On Wednesday and Thursday I put together a new dual Opteron-250 system and installed SuSE 9.2 (64bit). Uneventful install but there were a few issues with rebuilding a few apps (all but one have been

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Gert Vervoort
Roine Gustafsson wrote: 64bit is generally slower than 32bit. The only benefit of 64bit is non-segmented addressing of several gigabytes of data. If you don't need that then 64 bit adressing is just overhead. On x86-64 they did not only change from 32 bit to 64 bit, but they also doubled the num

Re: [Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Roine Gustafsson
On Feb 12, 2005, at 9:54 AM, Steven M. Schultz wrote: Howdy - On Wednesday and Thursday I put together a new dual Opteron-250 system and installed SuSE 9.2 (64bit). Uneventful install but there were a few issues with rebuilding a few apps (all but one have been reso

[Mjpeg-users] Opteron + mjpegtools

2005-02-12 Thread Steven M. Schultz
Howdy - On Wednesday and Thursday I put together a new dual Opteron-250 system and installed SuSE 9.2 (64bit). Uneventful install but there were a few issues with rebuilding a few apps (all but one have been resolved - can't get Ogle to build so I'll use Xine inste