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Andy Ruhl wrote:
>
> On 8/30/06, Charles M. Hannum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The NetBSD Project has stagnated to the point of irrelevance. It has
>
> Let me start by saying I'm probably not qualified to reply to this
> thread, but I was never worried about making a fool out of myself
> befo
Theo de Raadt wrote:
[snip]
>
> We know one reason why we never got documentation. Bit by bit more
> information has come out to show that the hardware design is an
> embarrasment and there are countless bugs and shortcomings.
>
Surprising? Not really.
Affects ONLY OpenBSD? Not a chance.
That's
Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote:
>
> since the openbsd project prides itself on being especially
> proactive about
> debugging, it would not surprise me to learn that there is automated code
> auditing going on. is this already the case? i didn't see openbsd
Automating stuff you do NOT understand stands
Some I've been in, the owner never gets a chance. You're already out of
there. Forcibly.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Markus Kolb
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 5:06 AM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Problems with CPU/ARCH specific compil
Results can be a bit, ... interesting if there is a Linux swap partition in
existence.
(That's partition as in DOS/Windows/Linux, not partition as in BSD)
The swap is activated by default and the verification "errors" can be
"interesting".
badblocks probably gives better assurance that the disk is
No, they hate it when you do things that are advised against and that tend
to
run into trouble and you expect them to bail you out when you don't even
supply any hard information about the failures.
I've been following this thread, actually a bit amazed at the reticence of
the
developers. About th
Some people on this list seem to have some anger management issues.
Some people not on this list seem to have some anger management issues.
Both statements true and both statements approximately equally relevant.
Overall, this list seems quite a friendly place, and if anything
is surprising, it is
OpenBSD has an annoying habit of being right.
Perhaps if OpenBSD can be civilized into not speaking their minds,
OpenBSD won't be so annoying (by not being so right).
That seems to be the implicit thrust of these thingees.
Flames invited if I've misread the situation.
-Original Message-
The gcc thread. The advice is to NOT use strange optimizations.
The experience supports that advice. This is similar to people
not following a recipe and complaining that the recipe doesn't work.
This thread is started by someone with a degree in "teaching
computer science", who is afraid to te
Dunno if relevant, but a long time ago, routing ethernet
over an internal SLIP connection (don't ask, fiber is much better),
connections were real flaky until I upped the MTU on the
SLIP connection to 1500. Seems Microsoft likes to put a
"Don't Fragment" into the TCP/IP setup and silently ignores
f
Correctness is difficult.
Actually, security is the easier part.
(and it's easier to keep score;)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
chefren
Sent: Friday, June 17, 2005 6:17 PM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Theo gave an interview to Forbes Ma
User A is on the east coast.
User B is on the west coast.
They both use the same computer.
What time is it?
UTC is the correct time.
User wants to view time in his own time zone.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
C. L. Martinez
Sent: Saturday,
Check /etc/man.conf
from fresh 3.7 install (with bash and a few others installed)
?? Did you install the man pages ??
bash-3.00$ cat /etc/man.conf
# $OpenBSD: man.conf,v 1.8 2001/04/05 19:05:49 millert Exp $
# Sheer, raging paranoia...
_versionBSD.2
# The whatis/apropos database.
_
Dunno if it will help but
Writing to a fresh floppy (W98)
foo.txt
bar.foobar
dir > dir.txt
The (possibly) long filename take up an extra directory slot
and is in the proper case.
Floppy should be FAT12 (very limited number of clusters)
but this has nothing to do with long file names.
The extension
man crontab (from fresh OBSD 3.7)
FILES
/var/cron/cron.allow list of users allowed to use crontab
/var/cron/cron.deny list of users prohibited from using crontab
/var/cron/tabsdirectory of individual crontabs
I think there's a reason that they include the man
5% or so is reserved for root and is not "available".
When everybody has run out of disk space, it is very helpful
if the situation does NOT apply to root.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Matthew S Elmore
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:35
Filesystem 512-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on
/dev/wd0a 256252180540 6290074%/
256252 blocks less 5% reserve.
This gives 243440 blocks total available for users.
less 180540 gives 62900 blocks currently available for users.
180540/243440 gives 7
The following seems to work.
$ year=2005
$ foo=$(expr $year - 1900 )
$ dayscount=$(expr $foo \* 365 )
$ echo $dayscount
38325
Problems include an unescaped asterisk
man expr indicates that parentheses should work
but my playing with them seems to indicate otherwise.
---Correction:
$ daysc
Just guessing, but it looks like you are at the very fringe of what BIOS
can and cannot access. Insignificant differences have large consequences,
just like a few inches near the edge of a cliff. If so, any recompile of
the kernel would be unbootable.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTEC
The Linksys WRT54g has a 4-port switch, an RJ45 jack labeled "Internet",
and an access point which can speak 11Mbps and/or 54Mbps.
What I do on our local lan is essentially to use it/them as a bridge.
Turn off the Linksys DHCPD, set the internal IP address, set a password,
set whatever parameters
>From a Toshiba Satellite, maybe not too dissimilar:
I assume the Q of "pckbc0 ISA Q Port 0x60/5" is a typo
Seems to be a pckbc0 and a pckbd0
Beyond that I'm out of my depth. (way out;)
Loading...
probing: pc0 mem[639K 478M a20=on]
disk: fd0 hd0+
>> OpenBSD/i386 BOOT 2.06
boot>
booting hd0a:/bsd:
This *may* help.
man mount
softdep
(FFS only.) Mount the file system using soft dependen-
cies. Instead of metadata being written immediately,
it
is written in an ordered fashion to keep the on-disk
Rod.. Whitworth wrote:
[snip]
>We chose to use 0 for outside 1 for internal and 2 for server. I cannot
fool anybody into thinking that 2 looks like S, dammit!
>From the land "down under": Australia.
Do we look from up over?
[snicker] try a mirror.
But seriously folks, that looks like THE defitiv
Unless I am very much mistaken, this is Unix not Multics.
To do anything with the rings, you must make userland
into a three-ring circus.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Dave Feustel
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2005 4:05 PM
To: Theo de Raadt
Cc
Rings and segments are pretty much orthogonal concepts.
C is hardly unique in not supporting segmentation.
The only languages I am aware of that even come close are Burroughs
Algol and PL/I (and as always Basic Assembly). (Lisp?)
But overriding is the fact that x86 supporting segments does not
im
Alexey E. Suslikov wrote:
Nick Holland wrote:
> PERSONALLY, I prefer to call the single processor kernel "bsd.sp",
bsd.sp is not correct if you crazy about correct terminology :)
bsd.up ("uniprocessor") is correct one.
Alexey.
Maybe it's just me, but everytime I see up I see down as its implici
It's a lot like mountain climbing.
People do it, although personally I can't really imagine why.
Because it's there. Because they can. That's why. It is not rational.
Nice words maybe don't hurt, but at that level are certainly irrelevant.
Me, I lurk on this list because of the attitude and the hon
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
>
> >I'm not saying that having a blobbed driver in-tree would be an
> >improvement - however, a machine that runs is likely to be an
> >improvement over one that doesn't, at least for a while (because, as
> >pointed out, bugs like blobs).
>
> I prefer looking at what's suppor
Chris Kuethe wrote:
>
> On 06 Apr 2006 18:12:59 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz
> wrote:
> > Given the cost of programmer time (and the cost of lost data) vs the
> > cost of a slightly faster processor, is it ever really worth it even
> > if MySQL is *twice* as fast?
>
> Yes.
>
> Example 1: I feel l
Josh Tolley wrote:
>
> On 4/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As to losing data, I suspect you'd lose a lot more
> > from PostgreSQL than MySQL on a failing hard drive.
>
> Any particular reason for that suspicion? I ask out of genuine
> interest, and I promise I don't want t
Dave Feustel wrote:
>
>
> I got my 3.9 Cdrom set yesterday and today started installing
> it on an external usb disk so as not to wipe out my existing
> 3.8 setup. When I got to the disk partition, I erased the existing
> 'a' partition (dos) and created a new bsd 'a' partition. The partition
> ha
Dave Feustel wrote:
>
>
> On Sunday 09 April 2006 16:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Something is very confused.
> > I do not believe an existing 'a' partition (dos).
>
> I bought the disk at Best Buy and copied a few files from
> /home/daf to test the disk. The files were copied to the
> usb-
Joco Salvatti wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> To increase the security level of my OpenBSD system I have defined at
> /etc/fstab that the root partition should be read only. /etc/fstab
> follows:
Me, I just lurk here but:
1) if having / ro would actually improve security,
they would have done so lo
Toni Mueller wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> On Mon, 24.04.2006 at 15:30:55 -0400, Matthew Closson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > [ wrong IP address ]
> > >What could that be, and why can't I see this address anywhere?
> > >
> > >I'd rather not reboot only to make a change in IP numbers effective...
>
>
js wrote:
>
> 2006/4/28, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > I wonder why http://www.openbsd.org/books.html still recommend old
> > > daemon book, The Design and Implementation of the 4.4 BSD Operating
> > > System?
> > > As most of you know, there's newer version, The Design and
> > > Implem
prad wrote:
[snip]
> (curiously, i've found on my system at least that some
> things seem
> to work faster on openbsd than freebsd.)
>
Shouldn't be a surprise, really.
Efficiency is really more a case of never being too inefficient
rather that occasionally being very efficient. (ie hard.)
Anythi
S t i n g r a y wrote:
>
> Now what i want to know , maybe is O T in this list
> but what is the diffrence , i mean pf in openBSD is
> refered to as a firewall for home or small offices ?
> why is that , i mean what is the criteria of an
> enterprise firewall what is the diffrence between pf &
> M
Nick Guenther wrote:
>
> On 4/30/06, Matthias Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > I wonder what the preferred style of return statments is -- for
> > returning simple values, both styles
> >
> > return foo;
> >
> > and
> >
> > return (foo);
> >
> > are used in the sou
Matthias Kilian wrote:
>
> On Sun, Apr 30, 2006 at 03:44:13PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > There is a
> > return (eight);
> > in man style.
>
> But in err() context.
>
> > I suspect that bad things can happen with macros
> > when you do only sensible things with parens.
>
> Good poin
Anton Karpov wrote
>
> > If he can break in as a lowly user uname -a will tell him what it is
> > anyway. And don't tell me we should disable that command or cause it to
> > lie because then I'll shoot you down another way.
>
>
>
> Re-read my message, please. I didn't tell he cannot stat os version
Anton Karpov wrote:
>
> Noone here talks about attacking a compiler ;) We're discussing
> differences
> for attacker, depending on compiler available or not.
They should.
There is a classic by Ken Thompson (I think) about using a compiler
to create a back door which has no traces in the source
Cristiano Deana wrote:
>
> Hi,
> i'm new on OpenBSD. I just installed 3.9 (one week ago sources)
> and i got this:
>
> $ uname -rs
> OpenBSD 3.9
> $ su
> Password:
> you are not in group wheel
> Sorry
> $ whoami
> cris
> $ id cris
> uid=1000(cris) gid=0(wheel) groups=0(wheel)
> $ grep cris /etc/
Paulo Manoel Mafra wrote:
>
> Hi misc,
> I would like to create a large partition on a disk, but this disk has a
> known bad block. How could I create the partition without the bad block ?
> One solution is to create two partitions without the bad block and use
> ccd. Is there another solution ?
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>
> Key mananagement is the most important part. The part that
> continuously will require time and attention from a lot of people, and
> the part that will cause the headaches. The part where the errors
> will be made. System managers experiencing problems and needing to
> g
Security is not having to say "how high?" when someone says jump!
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Miroslav Kubik
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 4:54 AM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: Shouldn't OpenBSD X11 come out with "-nolisten tcp" as def
>Security is everything you've ever said, plus a
>process.
No. security does not require the process.
Attempted security (that doesn't quite work) requires a process.
Like the difference between does work and should work.
Making is a process.
Toast is not a process.
>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: misc@openbsd.org
>Sent: Fri, 23 Sep 2005 02:30:10
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>>> Security is everything you've ever said, plus a
>process.
>>
>> If it is secure, it doesn't
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>These cards don't seem to be ath anymore.
>
>The relevant bits from my dmesg.
>
>rl0 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 "D-Link Systems
>530TX+" rev 0x10: irq 11 address 00:11:95:24:6a:0d
>rlphy0 at rl0 phy 0: RTL internal phy
>rl1 at pci1 dev 1 function 0 "D-Link Systems
>530TX+" re
The editing is perfectlty safe.
It is the reading of a file that is being changed that is unsafe.
Of course there's Microsoft Windows.
>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: misc@openbsd.org
>Sent: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 09:39:47
>
>OM> I know this behaviour form eve
The first thing to do is to copy the drive with the photos
to fresh disk space before further damage is done to the originals.
Expect recovery to be long and painful even with some tools
to make it easier.
There are people here that know a lot more about this than I, but the
first thing is to get
Quoth J Moore
[snip]
>And I'm suggesting that trying to be an expert in everything is not a
realistic goal... why pick up a scalpel at all (to "haul your butt out
of the fire") if your neighbor has invested years in becoming a thoracic
surgeon? If surgery is required, I would choose to let the
There is a legitimate use for top posting.
Deletion and/or answer of message in 10 to 15 seconds or less.
The stunt is essentially the same as stuff in newspapers.
The reporter writes. The editor puts as much as will fit in the alloted
space and ignores the remainder without even looking. The read
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:06:11
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>On 19/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> There is a legitimate use for top posting.
>> Deletion and/or answer of message in 10 to 15
>seconds or less.
>
>Nonsense. Just because your MS Outlook does not
>support or is not
On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:07:47
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:06:11 +0100
>"Constantine A. Murenin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>
>> On 19/10/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > There is a legitimate use for top posting.
>> > Deletion and/or answer of message in 10 to
Quoth Gustavo Rios Saturday, November 05, 2005 8:40 PM
>
> Hey folks,
>
> sorry, but i found this on the web. May someone tell if it is serious,
> i myself could not believe it.
>
> http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=424451&seqNum=1
"UNIX was a terrific workhorse for its time, but
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>On Sun, Nov 06, 2005 at 12:40:12AM -0200, Gustavo
>Rios wrote:
>> Hey folks,
>>
>> sorry, but i found this on the web. May someone
>tell if it is serious,
>> i myself could not believe it.
>>
>>
>http://www.informit.com/articles/article.asp?p=4244
>51&seqNum=1
>>
>
>L
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue, 15 Nov 2005 08:20:07
>
>On Tue, Nov 15, 2005 at 10:23:00AM +0100, the unit
>calling itself Henning Brauer wrote:
>> >
>> > 'adjusting local clock by XXs'
>> >
>> > The word 'by' is a preposition with a specific
>meaning in the context of
>> > its use... it means "in th
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Damien Miller wrote:
>...
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] djm]$ netstat -sp ip | grep -E
>'(bad.*checksum|total packets)'
>> 61092730 total packets received
>> 0 bad header checksums
>>
>
>wouldn't netstat -sp tcp | grep -E
>'(bad.*checksum|total packets)' giv
Ted Unangst:
> [i was trying to stay away, but can't.]
I've never really trusted prepositions ;)
By and by, stand by that clock and adjust it by 30 minutes,
by whatever means and by whatever rubric you deem appropriate.
By which direction, I wonder.
> On 11/18/05, J Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot
J.C. Roberts wrote:
> I went looking for HIER(7) but didn't know it's name, so I stuffed the
> words "file system" into an Apropos keyword search and got nothing.
>
> http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=file+system&sektion=0
> &manpath=OpenBSD+Current&arch=i386&apropos=1&format=html
>
>
J.C. Roberts wrote:
> To the rest of list users; Please pardon another long email from me on
> this. Helping reasonable people like Robbert understand why many people
> consider "HOWTO's" to be harmful is hopefully worth the added noise and
> bandwidth.
>
>
> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:57:12 +0100, Rob
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> In all these:
>
> >>I'm going to take this thread for what I think it is... the old guard
> >>telling us youngin's that our efforts are appreciated, but we've got a
> >>bit more to learn about how things work, and how to write good
> >>documentation, before we're really read
Robbert Haarman wrote:
[snip]
> As it stands, OpenBSD is the only operating system I am aware of that
> has had the full base system completely audited and has buffer overrun
> and other protections enabled for all software on it. This, by itself,
> makes it more secure than other systems, regard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
>all or nothing.
>make the pages match the quality of the code and
>the cd's.
>even if you don't care, other people do.
I PAID for my CDs. I am happy with artwork, particularly the
smirk on that puffer fish.
I did not pay for the website. If I can stumble into the F
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>hmm, on Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 05:32:54PM +0100, Otto
>Moerbeek said that
>> It's even a FAQ:
>http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#wwwnotstd
>
>doesn't mean it's right, does it?
>
Certainlly doesn't mean it's wrong.
Almost certainly means it's OpenBSD
What system were yo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>hmm, on Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 05:32:54PM +0100, Otto
>Moerbeek said that
>> It's even a FAQ:
>http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq8.html#wwwnotstd
>
>at least remove
>"We welcome new contributors,"
>because that is clearly not true.
>
They welcome contributers.
You are not a co
misc@openbsd.org wrote:
>
>hmm, on Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 12:35:57PM -0501, Nick
>Holland said that
>> NAME ONE.
>> Name one person.
>> Name one browser.
>> Name one problem.
>> OR SHUT UP.
>
>so small problems or "quirks" are not problems
>anymore?
>honestly Nick, go compare the code to the pages an
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>On 11/28/05, Nick Holland
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> NAME ONE.
>> Name one person.
>> Name one browser.
>> Name one problem.
>> OR SHUT UP.
>
>I believe I've mentioned several problems in this
>thread which occur
>with several browsers.
Said problems are not worth
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 10:53:45AM -0800, the unit
>calling itself J.C. Roberts wrote:
I would assume that J.C. Roberts is a human, not a "unit",
whatever that is supposed to imply.
>> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 11:27:56 -0600, J Moore
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> >I did
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I'm using a mozilla 1.7 browser, with CSS on,
>JavaScript off.
And it doesn't run javascript.
Outside my area of expertise, but that seems normal somehow.
>The menus on the referenced cerealport.com web-site
>don't expand at
http://cerealport.com does not answer
http://
Jacob Meuser wrote:
>
> this is how the world works: ignore the whiners, they offer nothing
> useful.
Some irresistable "straight lines"?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>Robbert Haarman writes:
>> Greg,
>>
>> Again, you raise some interesting issues. I
>wonder how likely the
>> catastrophic failures you describe are, versus
>how likely it is that
>> things fail in a way where ccd actually helps
>you. I was hoping someone
>> else woul
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:19:49
>
>I know of several people who ran software mirroring
>on Windows and they had
>major problems with it along the lines that Greg
>described. I also know some
>people that never had problems in a similar setup
>with OpenBSD. Prodded a
>little more, they n
Sophie Laurie wrote:
>
>
> theo,
>
>
> Coming from Canada, have you ever skated on thin ice? Well, you're doing
> it now!
I've lived in Canada. Nine months of winter and three months of bad skating
is just a myth.
> She's a wheelchair bound 65 year old woman who only wanted your help and
Same age,
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 22:51 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Considering the goals of OpenBSD, I would not expect USB rodents,
> > > sound cards or even video to be necessarily well supported.
> >
> > The reality is th
Uwe Dippel wrote:
>
> Theo de Raadt wrote:
>
> > So don't use it.
> >
> > But please, I beg of you, stop your incessant complaining.
> >
> > The more you whine, the less we feel the need to change anything.
>
> Oh, my wrong. I simply thought you were with the intention to improve
> the system
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Dear
> I installed the package autoconf but still day time client is not working
> following error occur
>
> plz help
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ gcc -o byteorder byteorder.c
> byteorder.c:1:17: unp.h: No such file or directory
> byteorder.c: In function `main':
> byteord
Andreas Bihlmaier wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I got a quick question because I fucked up and think quite a bunch of
> other people I have read about here did as well.
>
> I read in a couple of postings that people like to mount their root
> partition as read-only, I followed that since it prevents accide
On Tuesday, January 10, 2006 1:12 AM, Peter Bako wrote:
> To: misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Remove all password restrictions?
>
>
> I have an internal OpenBSD 3.8 system that I use as a data dump, internal
> source for PXE installs and the like. It is not accessible to the outside
> world, so securi
On Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:16 PM the calling itself
J Moore wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 21, 2006 at 05:42:08PM +0800, the unit calling itself
> Lars Hansson wrote:
> > On Sat, 21 Jan 2006 03:30:34 -0600
>
> > > Get a bigger H/D... 40 GB is about the smallest you can buy
> today; 4 GB
> > > drive
Bob Beck wrote:
> * Matthias Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-01-23 15:58]:
> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 05:08:00PM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote:
> > > Securia gives OpenBSD a pretty nice security rating at
> > > http://secunia.com/product/100/
> >
> > Those statistics say nothing at first glance. For
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
>All good points. That, however, still leaves my
>point standing that by
>evading PHP, you evade the worst crap.
>
True, but that is the same as that by evading ENGLISH as a
lnaguage in posts, you evade the worst crap.
If these discussions were carried out in class
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>fox wrote:
>>According to http://openbsd.org/security.html, the
>last two releases
>>of OpenBSD have had 8 vulnerabilities (and that
>includes two that
>>apply to both releases - so really 6 for both
>releases of OpenBSD).
>
>What about http://www.securityfocus.com/bid/163
Lukasz Sztachanski wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2006 at 01:42:13AM +1100, Shane J Pearson wrote:
> >
> > ~~~
> > OpenBSD
> > by hahiss
> >
> > How is it that OpenBSD is able to be so secure by design with so few
> > resources and yet all of Microsoft's resources cannot stem the tide of
> > security pro
Quoth Marius Van Deventer - Umzimkulu
> >
> > On Wednesday 08 February 2006 04:20, Diana Eichert wrote:
> > > On Tue, 7 Feb 2006, Miod Vallat wrote:
> > > > > i think we should rewrite the kernel in java since it
> > has good support
> > > > > for threads.
> > > >
> > > > Remember we opted for C+
man sudo for starters.
(actually that's quite enough even for a noob like me)
(even a very out of date linux is enough)
sheesh
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Dave Feustel
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:50 AM
> To: Otto Moerbeek
>
You sudo something, it asks for your password
You do it again soon after, it doesn't ask.
So somehow it remembers you.
Definitely more trouble, and probably opens some holes
for nasties, if it also remembers which version of you.
That's without knowing enough to have an opinion.
> -Original M
Tobias Weingartner wrote:
>
> On Saturday, February 11, Dave Feustel wrote:
> >
> > I found out via a google search on 'tickets sudo' about
> > the behavior I had discovered and reported. Then after Otto
> > let me know how pathetic my post was, I went back to man sudo
> > but found nothing abou
J.C. Roberts wrote:
>
> On Sat, 11 Feb 2006 17:35:58 -0500, Daniel Ouellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> >J.C. Roberts wrote:
> >> As others have pointed out, you simply misunderstood the article and
> >> then posted to the list what many people would consider an inflammatory
> >> question. This
Dave Feustel wrote:
[snip]
> Well, I'm lazy, so I let pf drop all unsolicited incoming
> traffic. Works Great!
> Lets me experiment with my system in peace and safety.
Not really.
Depends on what you can be conned into soliciting.
Just in case?
Like just in case a moth is drawn to a flame?
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> Dave Feustel
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 4:17 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: Mats O Jansson; misc@openbsd.org
> Subject: Re: X11 Demo pro
Matthias Kilian wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:00:24PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> > I would expect the people writing books, specially on OpenBSD to know a
> > lots more then me, so that I can learn from them, but if what
> you say is
> > true, it make me question my idea and intention o
There is a word "uninformed".
I do not think that Theo intended to use that word.
"Disinformed" and "Misinformed" are closer but do not convey the intent.
Words enter the language because they are used in a context which makes
their meaning rather obvious and other words fail to express correctly.
Further, since the switch is manageable, it has some ability to report port
status.
Odds-on that there is a disagreement on FULL/HALF-DUPLEX between the switch
and the network card.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Stuart Henderson
Sent: Friday
Can you put the files on two different disk drives?
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Mikhail Malamud
Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 9:39 PM
To: misc@openbsd.org
Subject: Re: fdisk and disklabel C/H/S
--- Steve Shockley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote
To add to your excellent analogy with hammers,
Do you drive across town to get that one best hammer to drive one nail?
OT. I use PHP, I like PHP.
Perl Monks: PHP - it's "training wheels without the bike" -- Randal L.
Schwartz
Pretty accurate. (But imagine PHP if perl didn't exist;)
Way OT. I lurk
>there are times when it's actually worth the effort to ...
Oh yes. Now, do you determine whether the trip is worthwhile
by examining hammers or by examining the nails?
(Language zealots all seem to have the problem
of looking only at the hammers;)
>A Britt, a Scotsman, an Aussie, a Texan, a New Y
ith no sense of
correctness or good design
Its website
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2012-April/240174.html
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Thanks!
Tony
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