Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Marc Balmer wrote: Marc Balmer wrote: Darrin Chandler wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 02:55:09PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: * Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 09:51]: httpd with IPv6 support uses IPv6 addresses for ambigious constructs. That is documented in the httpd(8) m

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Linus Swdlas wrote: On Sat, 08 Dec 2007 15:41:36 +0100, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: the unspecified address is 0.0.0.0 for IPv4 and :: for IPv6. '*' is ambigous and it makes no sense to assume '0.0.0.0' and '::' if a user specifies '*&#

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Henning Brauer wrote: * Todd T. Fries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 16:06]: I think you need to realize what you are saying is misleading at best. not at all, you miss the point. Yes this diff creates a mini flag day for httpd's conf file which is absolutely not needed and stupid. * mean

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Henning Brauer wrote: * Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 16:07]: Right now I am looking if the code can be changed to make '*:port' a synonym for '0.0.0.0:port', so the old notation would mean IPv4 only. If this is possible, existing config files would c

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Antti Harri wrote: On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, Marc Balmer wrote: * means all addresses in the default address family. and with this diff, that means all IPv6 addresses. The default can be changed on the command line using the -4 and -6 options (or by being explicit in the config file). Using IPv4

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Frank Habicht wrote: On 12/8/2007 4:55 PM, Henning Brauer wrote: * Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 09:51]: httpd with IPv6 support uses IPv6 addresses for ambigious constructs. That is documented in the httpd(8) manpage. that is completely wrong and disqualifies this patc

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Henning Brauer wrote: * Jeroen Massar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 09:49]: Frank Habicht wrote: Hi misc, [i guess misc is better than ports for that..] I ran the patched httpdv6 with the stock httpd.conf -> it was only bound to v6 README.v6 suggests _for_Vhost_operation_ one needs Listen

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Darrin Chandler wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 02:55:09PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: * Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 09:51]: httpd with IPv6 support uses IPv6 addresses for ambigious constructs. That is documented in the httpd(8) manpage. that is completely wro

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Henning Brauer wrote: * Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 15:29]: Henning Brauer wrote: * Jeroen Massar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 09:49]: Frank Habicht wrote: Hi misc, [i guess misc is better than ports for that..] I ran the patched httpdv6 with the stock http

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Marc Balmer wrote: Darrin Chandler wrote: On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 02:55:09PM +0100, Henning Brauer wrote: * Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 09:51]: httpd with IPv6 support uses IPv6 addresses for ambigious constructs. That is documented in the httpd(8) manpage. that is comp

Re: Code signing in OpenBSD

2007-12-07 Thread Marc Espie
As far as packages go, we know how to do signing. At least the technical part. The issue is not technical. As always with distributed authentication schemes.

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Frank Habicht wrote: Hi misc, [i guess misc is better than ports for that..] I ran the patched httpdv6 with the stock httpd.conf -> it was only bound to v6 README.v6 suggests _for_Vhost_operation_ one needs Listen :: 80 Listen 0.0.0.0 80 I did put up a new diff on http://mini.vnode.ch/diffs/

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Mats O Jansson wrote: On Sat, 8 Dec 2007, Marc Balmer wrote: Henning Brauer wrote: * Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 15:29]: Henning Brauer wrote: * Jeroen Massar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-08 09:49]: Frank Habicht wrote: Hi misc, [i guess misc is better than po

Re: About non-free software in OpenBSD

2007-12-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 03:15:46AM +0100, Rico Secada wrote: > Hi. > > I have just listed to the interview of Richard Stallman on BSDTalk: > http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2007/10/bsdtalk132-richard-stallman.html > > In the interview he states: "I am unhappy with the various > distributions of BSD,

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-10 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 10:18:47AM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > One question particularly relevant for this list is why I don't > recommend OpenBSD. It is not about what the system allows. (Any > general purpose system allows doing anything at all.) It is about > what the system suggests to

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 11:27:08PM -0500, Jason Dixon wrote: > Nobody is criticizing RMS over his opinion. They are criticizing him > for ignorance and misrepresentation of the facts regarding OpenBSD. Actually, no, I am criticizing RMS over his opinion. He's supposed to have dedicated his li

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-12 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 03:37:31AM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > However, if distribution D includes this "easier way to install" in > its ports system, by doing so distribution D endorses it and takes on > the ethical responsibility for it. Nope. Users have responsability for what they do. W

Re: : no 4.2-stable package updates??

2007-12-12 Thread Marc Balmer
Raimo Niskanen wrote: On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 08:35:50AM +0100, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Joe wrote: Wow. I didn't know this changed. This was announced on ports@ IIRC. So if there are security bugs in a package or port shipped with OpenBSD 4.2, there will be no updated pa

Re: no 4.2-stable package updates??

2007-12-12 Thread Marc Balmer
ico wrote: So if there are security bugs in a package or port shipped with OpenBSD 4.2, there will be no updated package or updated port available? That is correct. -- Antoine How do you gents keep your 4.2 stable OpenBSD server ( read packages, not system ) bug free? I run build infrastr

Re: httpdv6

2007-12-12 Thread Marc Balmer
for the time being, I changed the diff to use IPv4 as the default. I build a (local and unoffcial) snapshot with it and deployed it on our production servers. There is no problem known to me atm. And update changed nothing, but allowed me to _optionally_ turn on IPv6 support. If you want to help

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-13 Thread Marc Balmer
Richard "Hypocrite" Stallmann, we, OpenBSD, are endorsing non-free software? what is that: http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/faq2.html ? old man, stop trolling.

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-13 Thread Marc Balmer
Richard, while we do provide a free operating system, http://www.gnu.org/software/for-windows.html makes it total clear that you are a hypocrite and a liar. (while others promise the moon, we deliver.) - Marc

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 11:37:02PM +1100, Damien Miller wrote: > This incredibly misguided. People won't switch to free software > because of hectoring and hamfisted attempts to frustrate their > choices, but they instantly switch when free software becomes a > compelling replacement - look at Apac

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-14 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 05:48:44PM +, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: > http://www.openbsd.org/4.2_packages/i386/zangband-2.6.2p1.tgz-long.html > > According to Sourceforge: > http://sourceforge.net/projects/zangband > License: Other/Proprietary License Bullshit. If you had gone to the troubl

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-14 Thread Marc Balmer
Aaron Glenn wrote: On Dec 14, 2007 8:33 AM, Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/14/07, Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The Adobe flash plug-in is non-free software, and people should not install it, or suggest installing it, or even tell people it exists. so much for free

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 14, 2007 at 03:49:54PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > So have you sent these types of "unrecommendations" to other OS' > mailing lists or just OpenBSD's? > > I generally don't raise the issue, and I did not raise it this time. > I did not start this discussion. I posted on t

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2007-12-15 Thread Marc Balmer
Richard Stallman wrote: For personal reasons, I do not browse the web from my computer. (I also have not net connection much of the time.) To look at page I send mail to a demon which runs wget and mails the page back to me. It is very efficient use of my time, but it is slow in real time. a

Re: Real men don't attack sign men

2007-12-15 Thread Marc Balmer
Richard Stallman wrote: I doubt someone who is truly unfriendly could organize a hackathon, a friendly social event. He may be perfectly friendly to others. What is relevant is that he tends to be unfriendly to me. What is relevant is that you are a hypocrite and come to our mailing

Re: Using the C programming language

2007-12-23 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Dec 22, 2007 at 12:06:34PM +0100, Brian Hansen wrote: > Hi. > > I address this issue on this list, because a lot of people here are very > skillfull C programmers. Unlike you. You're not even skilled at looking through mailing-list archives. This specific subject has already been debated

Re: Using Mail(1)

2007-12-24 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Dec 24, 2007 at 08:36:09PM +, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Pieter Verberne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > For example: I remove the word "almost". Now the line is just 64 > > characters long so the paragraph from the word "lines" could just shove > > up. Does VI has a function for t

Re: Postfix(chroot) and Postgresql

2007-12-26 Thread Marc Balmer
atter, then I suggest that you don't use it all. It can be complicated and complex. Of course, once installed it works like a charm (oh, and we even have an LDAP enabled version of the venerable vacation(8) program). - Marc Balmer [...] -- SELECT services FROM companies WHERE nam

Re: OpenBSD supported servers ?

2007-12-26 Thread Marc Balmer
Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: You are all flame. Typical from the insubstantiate... Rui I would not strictly call Marco insubstantiate. Maybe not at all. I see a lot more of code from Marco in OpenBSD than from this Rui Miguel Silva Wonderbra.

Re: Linus about C++

2007-12-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 07:37:54AM -0600, Marco Peereboom wrote: > Wow one comprehensive list of the suckage that is C++. Thanks Miod now > I dont need to type examples anymore. I will probably regret this, but all of these issues are known, and only show that C++ is not a simple language. Real

Re: Linus about C++

2007-12-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Dec 28, 2007 at 10:16:08AM -0500, Gary Baluha wrote: > I'm also not sold on the concept of object oriented programming in general. > Along the lines of "nothing is impossible with enough layers of > indirection", I think too much abstraction also removes the programmer from > what he/she is

Re: fvwm in base and repository with security issues?

2008-01-02 Thread Marc Balmer
* Douglas A. Tutty wrote: [...] > I also forgot that Enlightenment seems to be under a suitable licence, > although probably too big to put in base. enlightnment is development code that does not run stable. It is not usable for "production" or "every day use" machin

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-05 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 09:30:09AM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > I guess I missed the part where you explained how it makes sense to > apply a label like "not recommended because it supports non-free > software" to OpenBSD but not to FSF (emacs, etc.). > > As I've said, I think it's

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-06 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jan 06, 2008 at 05:47:11AM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote: > > As I've said, I think it's acceptable for free applications to run on > > non-free platforms (and say that they do), because this doesn't > > recommend the installation of those non-free platforms. But free > > s

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-06 Thread Marc Balmer
Richard Stallman wrote: What is an operating system? An OS could be considered an "application", You could consider an OS an "application", and you could consider hardware software, just as you could consider the Earth a pumpkin. My response is that you're starting from assumptions I find q

Re: NAT IPV4 and bridge only IPV6

2008-01-06 Thread Marc Balmer
Good Good wrote: [...] The problem : The /64 provided by my ISP is made to fuel only one ethernet segment and no more. So, it is not possible to route a part of the /64 to another ethernet segment (the private segment). ask them to get a /48 network. with a /64 network you can not do anythin

Re: Real men don't attack straw men

2008-01-07 Thread Marc Balmer
Dusty wrote: WHY, please really, tell me WHY you do not do your own research. Everybody on this list would LOVE to know why you do not do any of your own research?!?!?!?!!? Honestly I am not interested why this moron does not do any research. He seems to be a case for the psychiatrists.

Re: NAT IPV4 and bridge only IPV6

2008-01-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Good Good wrote: Thank you for your answers. Free.fr <http://Free.fr> is the first general public ISP in France to provide IPV6 to its customers (it seems that I would be lucky) :) Marc is right, with a /64 I cannot do anything, my ISP seems to be skinflint (/64 or nothing). talk t

Re: AMD Geode LX Video on fit-PC

2008-01-09 Thread Marc Balmer
Matt Jibson wrote: I recently got a fit-PC. I found that after installing snapshots, issuing startx simply blacks the screen. The normal methods to stop X and recover the screen were unsuccessful. This is the behavior when using the vesa driver. Under the vga driver, X starts, but the fonts are

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-09 Thread Marc Balmer
Nikns Siankin wrote: Facts about OpenBSD: # Stable release cycle. If you want to run latest bugfree ClamAV or FireFox - upgrade to CURRENT! But don't forget to buy release CD's!!! # Secure By Default. OpenBSD uses broken WEP for securing WiFi networks. Has no WPA/WPA2 support. # Do n

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 11:03:29PM +0200, Nikns Siankin wrote: > # Secure By Default. > OpenBSD uses broken WEP for securing WiFi networks. > Has no WPA/WPA2 support. Where is your wpa code for OpenBSD ?

Re: 64 bit file I/O?

2008-01-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 06:09:24PM -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 04:49:42PM -0800, Unix Fan wrote: > > Darrin Chandler wrote: > > > Ted Unangst wrote: > > > > what bs are you using? > > > > > > Try to be more polite, please. > > > > He wasn't being rude, bs the block siz

Re: facts about OpenBSD

2008-01-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 03:03:02PM +0200, Nikns Siankin wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2008 at 12:43:48PM +, Edd Barrett wrote: > >Hello, > > > >A lot of this is down to manpower or lack thereof. You can make it > >better if you put some effort in. Failing that, If it's so bad, then > >why don't you

Re: MAXDSIZ limit 1G?

2008-01-13 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Jan 13, 2008 at 08:40:59AM -0800, Marcelo Schmidt wrote: > The memory limit is the full amount e.g. ulimit -d unlimited, but the datasize > (MAXDSIZ) is 1G. I also tried to recomle the 3.8 stable kernel with MAXDSIZ > > 1G. ulimit -d shows the new max but the processes run out of memory e

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Marc Balmer
Henning Brauer wrote: * Piotrek Kapczuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-16 12:05]: 2008/1/16, Henning Brauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: * Lars Noodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-01-15 17:42]: What is recommended for using a second machine to compile a kernel for the soekris? nothing. there is no need to

Re: building a kernel for net4801 from dmassage

2008-01-16 Thread Marc Balmer
Paul de Weerd wrote: [...] port in /etc/ttys (see ttys(5) for more info). But yeah, like Henning said .. absolutely no need to build a new kernel. Definitely not worth the effort just to change the console speed. I do custom kernels to build a ramdisk kernel that has some special application

Re: GENERIC -current kernel requires modification to boot on ALIX

2008-01-16 Thread Marc Balmer
t; kern.watchdog.auto, successfully prevents the watchdog from biting, as > it should be. Thanks to marc@ et al. who implemented & extended > glxpcib for ALIX! that would be mbalmer@, not marc@ ;) > > Rolf

dmesg from lenovo t60

2008-01-17 Thread Marc Peters
v 1.00/0.01 addr 3 softraid0 at root root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b glad to see, that the interrupt-problems i had yesterday building with a -stable .MP-kernel are gone with -current. suspending the laptop doesn't work at all. neither apm -S or -z or zzz. /usr/sbin/apmd -d doesn't give any output. very nice work and a big 'thank you' to the devs. keep on your good work and i will keep buying cds and t-shirts :). cheers, marc

Re: dmesg from lenovo t60

2008-01-17 Thread Marc Peters
hello ted, these are sad news, as lenovo has kicked the support of apm since t4something and the newer thinkpad are all acpi-only machines. is there anything that i, as a non-coder, can do to support the acpi improvement? cheers, marc Ted Unangst schrieb: On Jan 17, 2008 7:35 AM, Marc

Re: k3b ...is it possible?

2008-01-18 Thread Marc Espie
I have the beginning of a port of k3b. There are just a lot of things in the realm of cd/dvd handling that need porting. It's not just a few patches, and it will work.

Re: k3b ...is it possible?

2008-01-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jan 18, 2008 at 11:27:42AM -0700, Predrag Punosevac wrote: > Marc Espie wrote: > >I have the beginning of a port of k3b. There are just a lot of things > >in the realm of cd/dvd handling that need porting. It's not just a few > >patches, and it will work. >

A note for PC-Engines ALIX board users

2008-01-21 Thread Marc Balmer
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Re: Problems with -current in CVS?

2008-01-21 Thread Marc Balmer
Colby W. wrote: I tried two different AnonCVS repositories (one in the USA and one in CAN) tonight but ran into the same problem when I tried rebuilding the kernel to bring my recent -release install up to -current. Per the instructions [1]: cou have to rebuild config(8) in /usr/src/usr.sbin/co

Re: Archiving pkg's added by pkg_add -u

2008-01-26 Thread Marc Espie
On Sat, Jan 26, 2008 at 10:29:13AM +, Laurence Tratt wrote: > As a possibly complimentary idea to PKG_CACHE, I wrote a simple script a > while back which bulk downloads packages: > > http://tratt.net/laurie/computing/obsd/packagesbootstrap/ > > I use this to download packages onto a local m

Re: halt -p does not work with GENERIC.MP on 4.2-STABLE

2008-01-28 Thread Marc Peters
0x61 midi0 at pcppi0: spkr0 at pcppi0 aps0 at isa0 port 0x1600/31 ugen0 at uhub4 port 2 "STMicroelectronics Biometric Coprocessor" rev 1.00/0.01 addr 2 uhidev0 at uhub1 port 1 configuration 1 interface 0 "Microsoft Microsoft 5-Button Mouse with IntelliEye(TM)" rev 1.10/3.00 addr 2 uhidev0: iclass 3/1 ums0 at uhidev0: 5 buttons and Z dir. wsmouse1 at ums0 mux 0 softraid0 at root root on sd0a swap on sd0b dump on sd0b marc

Public Show: _Solutions Linux_ in Paris

2008-01-28 Thread Marc Espie
etBSD and FreeBSD people by a *huge* margin this year. The following developers and friends have said they will attend (in no particular order): Wim Vandeputte Charles Longeau Gilles Chehade Alexandre Ratchov Antoine Jacoutot Landry Breuil (will be hiding in the GCU booth, most probably) Saad Kadhi

Re: Public Show: _Solutions Linux_ in Paris

2008-01-28 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Jan 28, 2008 at 04:43:17PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote: > > Wim Vandeputte > Charles Longeau > Gilles Chehade > Alexandre Ratchov > Antoine Jacoutot > Landry Breuil (will be hiding in the GCU booth, most probably) > Saad Kadhi > Marc Espie And my editor (or my toto

Re: Test Limerick, please ignore

2008-01-29 Thread Marc Balmer
Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote: Darrin Chandler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: There once was a message to test Repeated unto being a pest While marked to ignore It was seen more and more Until other begged, "Give it a rest!" That one needs to be included in the faq somewhere, urgent

Re: low-MHz server

2008-01-31 Thread Marc Balmer
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: Hello, I have an unusual situation and problem at which I've been chipping away. The resultant system will need to run OpenBSD so I'm asking here for the accumulated wisdom. The base technology predates my IT experience. My wife is sensitive to what she describes as el

Re: Prolific USB-Serial Controller

2008-02-02 Thread Marc Balmer
Chris wrote: I am trying to a access a switch connected to a USB-Serial controller to my laptop's USB port. When I plug in the USB port to my laptop I get the following in my /var/log/messages. But I am not sure which /dev/ to use in minicom to access the switch. I can see there is no /dev/uplcom

Re: Prolific USB-Serial Controller

2008-02-02 Thread Marc Balmer
Stuart Henderson wrote: /dev/ttyU0 you should use /dev/cuaU0 for "dial-out". On 2008/02/02 20:53, Chris wrote: I am trying to a access a switch connected to a USB-Serial controller to my laptop's USB port. When I plug in the USB port to my laptop I get the following in my /var/log/messages

Re: Dell SC440 reboot

2008-02-08 Thread Marc Balmer
sandro "guly" zaccarini wrote: hi, i have two sc440 running 4.2 and i have some problem. i don't have the box here so i can't paste the trace or similar but i will try to explain and maybe if i'm not the only one that use this crappy hardware.. first of all, the raid controller is awful. this h

Re: Where is NAN Defined?

2008-02-10 Thread Marc Balmer
Jim Razmus wrote: I'm trying to compile a program that uses NAN. It includes math.h which I'm told C99 says should define it. I've grepped the entire source tree and read up on man 3 math and man 3 isinf. Still no joy. Trying to compile the program yields "error: `NAN' undeclared (first use i

Re: Where is NAN Defined?

2008-02-10 Thread Marc Espie
There's some newer stuff we don't have yet. Partly because of vax, since it's the only non-ieee platform we support. NAN is one of these issues, and not the only one. For now, just cater around the problem by reading carefully the code, and figuring out what you can put instead of NAN.

Re: take threads off the table

2008-02-17 Thread Marc Balmer
Geoff Steckel wrote: Threads or any other form of uncontrolled resource sharing are very bad ideas. that might be true for those that don't understand threads. for other it can be highly benefitial.

Re: What is our ultimate goal??

2008-02-17 Thread Marc Balmer
Mayuresh Kathe wrote: think a generally usable 64/128 bit file system, you have that much porn that you need a 128bit fs?

Re: take threads off the table

2008-02-17 Thread Marc Balmer
Marco Peereboom wrote: If you want to run more of the same you fork. Threads usefulness are limited in scope. Threads dangers are endless. Nonetheless there are good reasons for threading; just not as many as people give it credit for. Ssh is not one of those use cases where threading is impor

Re: OT: supposed advantages of "threads"

2008-02-18 Thread Marc Balmer
Geoff Steckel wrote: This is my last posting on this, take heart. The "threads" advocates have never specified any advantages of a program written using that model (multiple execution points in a single image) over a multiple process model, assuming that parallelism is useful. If the purported

Re: What is our ultimate goal??

2008-02-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 02:31:13PM +0100, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 01:07:06PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > By this, I mean, developers *are* working on improving the features > > currently offered by OpenBSD. In general people work on things which > > they will f

Re: What is our ultimate goal??

2008-02-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 10:12:09AM -0500, David Higgs wrote: > Does the -B option to pkg_add do exactly this? Or YOU could do the > equivalent and tell ./configure to install to a different base > directory. This doesn't need any funding either. Nope, -B is mostly for chroot and flashdist-like i

Re: What is our ultimate goal??

2008-02-18 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, Feb 17, 2008 at 03:10:12PM +0100, Zbigniew Baniewski wrote: > > I noticed, that default path, where software from binary pkg and "ports" > gets unpacked, is /usr/local hierarchy - unfortunately, it's also the > "traditional" default of every individual source *.tar.gz package - such

Re: Not updating .libs-XXXXX, remember to clean it (huh?)

2008-02-20 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 01:07:25PM -0500, Juan Miscaro wrote: > I am working with a recent snapshot installation (090208) and I have > some questions regarding updating packages with pkg_add. > > > ... > 1. I am shown the following: > > Not updating .libs-curl-7.16.2, remember to clean it > Not

Re: What is our ultimate goal??

2008-02-22 Thread Marc Espie
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 04:18:42PM +0100, Miod Vallat wrote: > >> SO now do you want FireEngine? Or rather SMPng networking? Or > >> would you like ReallyHyperFastZoomStreamCyberWoosh? > >Now that you've brought it up, I would really like a > >ReallyHyperFastZoomStreamCyberWoosh TCP stack. Just m

Re: pkg_add -u

2008-03-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:59:29PM +0100, fulvio ciriaco wrote: > Hallo, > I have some ports updated by me, > e.g. emacs-22.1, sawfish-1.3.3 ... > When trying > pkg_add -ui > Candidates for updating sawfish-1.3.3p0 -> sawfish-1.3p9 > Candidates for updating auctex-11.14p1 -> auctex-11.14p1 > ... >

Re: xenocara source

2008-03-01 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 05:19:00PM -0800, Marco S Hyman wrote: > > For the sake of new folks it may be wise to put a .cvsignore in > > our /usr/src tree to prevent unintended cosequences of using the (also > > suggested) prune switch on cvs (-P). > > -P will only remove EMPTY directories that

Re: openbsd router hardware

2008-03-02 Thread Marc Balmer
Brian A. Seklecki (Mobile) wrote: I'm looking for hardware to install an openbsd based dsl-router. I already searched the list archives and looked at WRAP and Soekris, but it seems that they do not match my requirements: - fanless - as small as possible - Soekris - Routerboard - Axiomtek - AR

Re: /etc/ttys fields for reading from tty00

2008-03-02 Thread Marc Balmer
AE sysadmin wrote: I am crafting C util to read data from tty00 (amd64, i386; connected to the data src device directly by serial cable). What should I put in /etc/ttys for the tty00 to make sure I am doing things correctly? The util is to be run as root. you don't need to edit /etc/ttys, yo

Re: multiple connections to GPS device?

2008-03-07 Thread Marc Balmer
. But at the moment that is not possible. - Marc

Re: multiple connections to GPS device?

2008-03-07 Thread Marc Balmer
James Hartley wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:19 PM, Chris Kuethe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 11:01 PM, James Hartley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there some other manner in which I can tap into this connection? ports/misc/gpsd This looks really cool! Am I correc

Re: Samba(SMB) or Netatalk(AFP)?

2008-03-10 Thread Marc Balmer
Sunnz wrote: Basically I want to set up a network share on my OpenBSD box which my Mac laptops and Linux laptops can access to. Smb seems kind of weird in a environment with no M$ systems... however this is probably what I am most familiar with because I did it in the past on OpenBSD and it was

Re: obsd 3.4 port of mysql may have error9 issue again...

2008-03-17 Thread Marc Espie
On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 02:50:01PM +, Paul Pruett wrote: > just a heads up, for mysql > on new openbsd 3.4 just did the make build for src with OPENBSD_3_4 Tag and > mysql port from anoncvs today because I was starting to see the infamous > errorcode 9 with the beta port of mysql ??? OpenBSD

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-17 Thread Marc Balmer
Marcus Andree wrote: I've just finished a small argument with some colleages here at work. They just couldn't believe a Pentium 133 was serving a hundred e-mail accounts... back in time (but not to long ago), I served 3000 email accounts for a Swiss multinational insurance company on a P133 wi

Re: glxpcib: tiny bug fix

2008-03-18 Thread Marc Balmer
nymore this manner because these GPIOs do not support the 'inout' flag. Thanks, Rolf, I will look into this. - Marc Rolf --- sys/arch/i386/pci/glxpcib.c.origSat Nov 24 09:21:00 2007 +++ sys/arch/i386/pci/glxpcib.c Tue Mar 18 15:55:51 2008 @@ -291,7 +291,7 @@

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread Marc Balmer
Henning Brauer wrote: * Marcus Andree <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-03-18 12:31]: back in time (but not to long ago), I served 3000 email accounts for a Swiss multinational insurance company on a P133 with 32MB RAM. That is no big deal, however. sendmail and any Unix like system can handle t

Re: the death of the oldest OpenBSD system on the net...

2008-03-18 Thread Marc Balmer
T. Ribbrock wrote: On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 09:56:44PM +0100, Marc Balmer wrote: back in time (but not to long ago), I served 3000 email accounts for a Swiss multinational insurance company on a P133 with 32MB RAM. Out of curiousity: Was that with or without spamfilters and virusscanning

Upcoming PostgreSQL Update to version 8.3.1

2008-03-23 Thread Marc Balmer
(This is a crosspost from [EMAIL PROTECTED]; I want to make sure this reaches all OpenBSD/PostgreSQL users) PostgreSQL users, shortly the PostgreSQL port in OpenBSD will be updated from version 8.2.6 to 8.3.1. This is a major update and you have to dump your databases before update and restore

Annuaire d'entreprises

2008-03-25 Thread Marc Devoix
Bonjour, Afin de pouvoir rifirencer votre site sur l’annuaire des entreprises, Inscrivez-vous gratuitement dhs maintenant pour intigrer votre sociiti. Tous les itablissements proposant un service didii aux TPE-PME sont acceptis, sur l’annuaire Internet des professionnels. Dans l’attente de

Re: Problems building bison on OpenBSD 4.3

2008-03-25 Thread Marc Espie
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 02:51:27PM -0600, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido wrote: > On 3/25/08, Matthias Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 02:28:07PM -0600, Gerardo Santana Gsmez Garrido > wrote: > > > I'm running OpenBSD 4.3-stable on i386. Ports are 4.3-stable too. > > >

Re: i have lost /etc

2008-03-28 Thread Marc Balmer
Rafael Morales wrote: Please someone help me I have deleted my /etc dir (rm -rf /etc), is there any way to recover it, or there is a way to recover my data stored in /home ??? restore(8)

Re: Openldap

2006-12-08 Thread Marc Balmer
Dr. Harry Knitter wrote: Am Montag, 4. Dezember 2006 20:23 schrieb Bryan Irvine: I have installed the following binaries: openldap-server-2.3.24 openldap-client-2.3.24 db-4.2.52p8 OS is OpenBSD 4.0 You need to install openldap-server-2.3.24-bdb If installed from ports use env FLAVOR=bdb make i

Re: pf

2006-12-09 Thread Marc Balmer
* David B. wrote: > I've looked an man pf, and it's way too confusing; I'm using smoothwall as a > standalone firewall, and it pretty much works the way I want it to; however, > I've found a reason to block a an IP range, particularly 216.87.0.0/17; > is there an equivalent to an iptables command I

Re: autoconf error message suggestion

2006-12-12 Thread Marc Balmer
* Karel Kulhavy wrote: > On Mon, Dec 04, 2006 at 03:31:06PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > On 2006/12/04 16:15, Karel Kulhavy wrote: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ autoconf > > > Provide an AUTOCONF_VERSION environment variable, please > > > > > > I suggest this error message to be extended with a

Re: autoconf error message suggestion

2006-12-13 Thread Marc Espie
Okay, guys, kill it. The main issue I have with Karel is that he lacks basic tact. But saying metaauto lacks some documentation is not necessarily wrong. However, since he's already written opensource software, maybe he could contribute ? I wouldn't object to a set of manpages for metaauto. I w

Re: Thinkpad Fingerprint Sensors

2006-12-13 Thread Marc Balmer
* Michael wrote: > Hi, > > will there be any support for the fingerprint sensor on the newer > Thinkpads (anytime soon)? > > Linux: > http://toe.ch/~tsa/ibm-fingerprint/ > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_enable_the_fingerprint_reader > http://www.qrivy.net/~michael/blua/ > > Vendor SDKs: >

Re: samba and ldap

2006-12-16 Thread Marc Balmer
* Dr. Harry Knitter wrote: > My goal would be to use ldap alone for authetication for my samba users and > circumvent the use of /etc/passwd at all. I. e all authtication requests > should be managed by my ldap database. On OpenBSD, this is not possible. I.e you have to add all accounts to /et

Re: Lenovo Notebook w/ ACPI ucycom Delorme GPS

2006-12-16 Thread Marc Balmer
* Sam Fourman Jr. wrote: > Hello misc@ as this is about gpsd, ports@ could be a better list... > My question is the Delorme USB GPS supported on OpenBSD the Earthmate > USB device does sat model #9538 v 1.0 on a sticker on the bottom of > the device. it attaches as a com device, you should be ab

Re: 4.0 frozen

2006-12-17 Thread Marc Balmer
* Stephen Schaff wrote: > So, I thought I would post my dmesg here and see if it grabs the > attention of anyone who knows better than I do. Any insight would be > much appreciated. It turns my stomach to think I'd have to reinstall > with a different OS. If this system is critical for you,

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