Re: openbsd and the money

hmm, on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 08:13:44PM +0100, frantisek holop said that > hmm, on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 11:23:02AM -0700, Theo de Raadt said that > > > it would be interesting to know about how MUCH money donated > > > to the openbsd project you all are REALLY talking here... > > > > Sad, eh. 350

Re: openbsd and the money

I think, if we skip all the whinning, the one straight question from Frantisek Holop which is not yet clarified is why devs makes so cantradictory statements: "we do code FOR OURSELVES, AND if you like it, you are free to use it" and "we THANK you with code (e.g. 'we code FOR YOU instead of giving

Re: art(4): Link change recorded where? (one short note)

Hello Theo, On Fri, 17.03.2006 at 16:44:58 -0700, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then the entire idea is to improve the drivers to erradicate this > special treatment that makes them believe that they should syslog > of kernel printf us to death. That is not the solution you want. th

Re: Site indexing application

Frank Denis wrote: Le Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 02:18:10PM +0200, Gabriel George POPA ecrivait : Frank Denis wrote: Yes, very interesting. But I was looking for a very secure, highly proven solution, prepackaged for OpenBSD with Apache chrooted. Well, Hyper Estraier is far from being a beta

Re: Bank transfers for donating

Hello, one more note: On Fri, 24.03.2006 at 01:14:34 +0100, Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So we have setup a bank account, and people can use the following > > information for IBAN and SWIFT/BIC transfers: > > http://www.openbsd.org/bank-donation.html > > Thanks! This is quit

Re: OpenBSD and the money

Hello, On Thu, 23.03.2006 at 16:26:04 -0500, Peter Fraser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > To get money from the government you have to work with > professionals consultants. The good ones are expensive, > but they do work on a contingency basis. I don't agree, generally. This whole idea seems misb

Re: Sendmail security problem

Claus Assmann wrote: On Thu, Mar 23, 2006, Alexey E. Suslikov wrote: All I know, sendmail.org says I can not patch versions below 8.13.5: That's wrong. See the 8.13.6 note: and 8.12 are availabe at our FTP site. However, note that those patches do not (cleanly) apply to versions oth

Re: Site indexing application

Gabriel George POPA wrote: Frank Denis wrote: Le Tue, Mar 21, 2006 at 02:18:10PM +0200, Gabriel George POPA ecrivait : Frank Denis wrote: Yes, very interesting. But I was looking for a very secure, highly proven solution, prepackaged for OpenBSD with Apache chrooted. Well, Hyper Est

Re: Locking processes/users to CPUs in SMP systems

On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 09:48:05PM -0500, rjn wrote: > I was just wondering, is it possible to lock a process or user to a > specific CPU in an SMP system? > > Say for example, I had a database and a web server and I wanted to > lock each one to a CPU. Or that I only wanted user 'johndoe' to be >

Re: Copying stuff into chroot (was: Site indexing application)

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 11:06:04AM +0200, Gabriel George POPA wrote: > Frank Denis wrote: > I installed Hyper Estraier but now, because it is in chroot, it cannot > find the libraries it depends on. I had this problem quite a few times > with different programs. I did not have the time to solve i

Re: openbsd and the money

quote from the "openbsd and the money -solutions": [quote] > I offer to do the administration. Who the fuck are you? Nobody, that's who. [/quote] Usual stuff on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Even if one does not agree with the suggestion, is that a way of replying? The only thing it does is frustrate people

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On 03/24/06 04:17, Theo de Raadt wrote: http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/OpenBSD_needs_a_major_donor http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/21/1555243 .. These donations from individuals are really great. The community is great. Thanks a lot. But we know this is the wrong way to fund O

3Ware 9500S-12

Hello, can someone confirm that 3Ware 9500S-12 does or does not work with OpenBSD ? I'd also appreciate any suggestion about 12-channel sata raid solutions. Regards M.K.

copying software from the official iso

Hello, Can I do a dd if=/dev/cdrom of=obsd.iso and redistribute it ? (the audio track is away) -- Au revoir,02 99 64 31 77 06 20 79 76 06 Gilles Lamiral. France, Chavagne (35310) 08 72 27 33 66

Re: copying software from the official iso

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 12:43:59PM +0100, Gilles LAMIRAL wrote: > Hello, > > Can I do a > > dd if=/dev/cdrom of=obsd.iso > > and redistribute it ? > (the audio track is away) http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq3.html#ISO *sigh* Bernd

Re: copying software from the official iso

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 12:43:59PM +0100, Gilles LAMIRAL wrote: > Hello, > > Can I do a > > dd if=/dev/cdrom of=obsd.iso > > and redistribute it ? > (the audio track is away) Please don't, it's one of the few sources of income the project has. As to legality, search the archives - this quest

Re: copying software from the official iso

>>> Gilles LAMIRAL 24-Mar-06 11:43 >>> > > Hello, > > Can I do a > > dd if=/dev/cdrom of=obsd.iso > > and redistribute it ? > (the audio track is away) No. Do not do this. The CD layout (not just the song) is copyrighted. For more information see the FAQ entry http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq3.

Re: Locking processes/users to CPUs in SMP systems

On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 09:48:05PM -0500, rjn wrote: > I was just wondering, is it possible to lock a process or user to a > specific CPU in an SMP system? > > Say for example, I had a database and a web server and I wanted to > lock each one to a CPU. Or that I only wanted user 'johndoe' to be >

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

Please, stop wanting companies to support you. It doesn't work that way. To develop an OS under a licence like the ISC has a big hole: funding. You can't just go: Hey, you use the implementation that I develop and give away for free, you should pay me!. If the pay you, OK, if the don't, well, that'

Re: copying software from the official iso

Joachim Schipper wrote: On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 12:43:59PM +0100, Gilles LAMIRAL wrote: Hello, Can I do a dd if=/dev/cdrom of=obsd.iso and redistribute it ? (the audio track is away) Please don't, it's one of the few sources of income the project has. As to legality, search the archives

Re: copying software from the official iso

Bernd Schoeller wrote: >On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 12:43:59PM +0100, Gilles LAMIRAL wrote: > > >>Hello, >> >>Can I do a >> >>dd if=/dev/cdrom of=obsd.iso >> >>and redistribute it ? >>(the audio track is away) >> >> > >http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq3.html#ISO > >*sigh* > >Bernd > > > It seem

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On 2006-03-24 12:10:37 +0100, chefren wrote: > This is whining and it isn't very sure because you have no idea what > alternatives for the free OpenSSH product would have cost. They can happily use lsh. Best Martin -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 08:40:59AM -0300, Andr?s Delfino wrote: > Please, stop wanting companies to support you. It doesn't work that > way. To develop an OS under a licence like the ISC has a big hole: > funding. You can't just go: Hey, you use the implementation that I > develop and give away for

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

It was the unique Unix-like OS with that licence. Right now, there are tons of other systems. Companies want to invest in Linux-based systems, because of marketing. On 3/24/06, mickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 08:40:59AM -0300, Andr?s Delfino wrote: > > Please, stop want

Re: openbsd and the money

Hi! On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 01:55:29PM -0500, Michael Hernandez wrote: >I noticed that donations to OpenBSD "are not US tax deductible as >charitable contribution". I don't actually understand what that whining about tax deduction is about. If tax deduction means, for example, that you get 25%

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, chefren wrote: > Demand something like $50 a year for access to the ftp.openbsd.org now!!! You are suggesting that we screw the people who have contributed by far the most to OpenBSD and OpenSSH, individual users and small organisations. Not a very bright idea. -d

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Andris Delfino wrote: > Please, stop wanting companies to support you. It doesn't work that > way. To develop an OS under a licence like the ISC has a big hole: > funding. You can't just go: Hey, you use the implementation that I > develop and give away for free, you should pa

Re: 3Ware 9500S-12

Hi MichaE, On 2006.02.24, at 10:24 PM, MichaE Koc wrote: can someone confirm that 3Ware 9500S-12 does or does not work with OpenBSD ? Based on what I last I heard, I think the most important point is that 3Ware the company, does not work with OpenBSD the project. Shane

Re: Sendmail security problem

...on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 12:22:37PM +0100, Anthony Howe wrote: > I installed 8.13.6 last night from the source tar ball on two machines > (one is OpenBSD 3.6, the other an old Linux box). Appears to be chugging > along happily. Can't speak to the specific security issue though. Replacing O

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

As I have said before, BSD was the unique Unix-like operative system with a ISC-style license. That's why, IMHO, companies invested in it. On 3/24/06, Damien Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Andris Delfino wrote: > > > Please, stop wanting companies to support you. It doesn

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 09:36:01AM -0300, Andr?s Delfino wrote: > It was the unique Unix-like OS with that licence. Right now, there are > tons of other systems. Companies want to invest in Linux-based > systems, because of marketing. what are you smoking dude? what unique? there was not att unix

Re: Bank transfers for donating

On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:09:10 MST, Theo de Raadt writes: >Until earlier today I was unaware that it is much easier for Europeans >to donate via direct bank transfers. <...> >So we have setup a bank account, and people can use the following >information for IBAN and SWIFT/BIC transfers: Thanks for b

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

Ryan Flannery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I really hate prolonging this thread, but I'm curious about the > following... I've done quite bit of contract work around my area, and > in most cases I've been able to implement OpenBSD for something. > Whenever that's happened, I've always pushed for

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On 03/24/06 13:54, Damien Miller wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, chefren wrote: Demand something like $50 a year for access to the ftp.openbsd.org now!!! You are suggesting that we screw the people who have contributed by far the most to OpenBSD and OpenSSH, individual users and small organisat

Re: OpenBSD and the money

...on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 02:20:08PM -0500, Peter Fraser wrote: > I recognize that government grants come with red-tape, and people are > often disdainful of taking "hand-outs". In this case, however, I'd > think the pros outweigh the cons. Don't you have a wish-list of things > you'd imple

FTP Issues

Hi all, I've got a problem running ftp through my PF firewall. That is the issue: - I installed a new firewall (OpenBSD 3.9) in my network to connect some users to the Internet through a new link. The users need to connect via FTP to a server located externally (Internet), so the connections must

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 10:10:36AM -0300, Andr?s Delfino wrote: > As I have said before, BSD was the unique Unix-like operative system > with a ISC-style license. That's why, IMHO, companies invested in it. they supported it because they used it for their own product. so what has changed in 'em no

Re: openbsd and the money

...on Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 01:42:48PM +0100, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > I don't actually understand what that whining about tax deduction is > about. My guess is that it's not about the tax deduction in itself (although that certainly helps), it's about the receipt. Companies very much like t

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, mickey wrote: SNAP > sorry dude but you are full of shit. > for example from history: > how do you think bsd was developped originally at the ucb? > > cu > > -- > paranoic mickey (my employers have changed but, the name has > remained) Lot's of money flowing from th

Re: openbsd and the money

...on Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 02:52:55PM +0100, Alexander Bochmann wrote: > So it's probably easier to get a company > to order a few hundred CDs instead of a donation. By the way, the golden CD signed by all core developers for $9000 might just be the thing to add to the store. :) Alex.

Re: copying software from the official iso

On 3/24/06, Gabriel George POPA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems to me quite a dangerous discussion. Why not security updates > for money? SuSE has made a lot of money... > I know you already discussed this, but this feature will make OpenBSD > VERY popular. No, that would decrease popularit

Re: ARP errors with IP less interfaces and many CARP interfaces.

Well. A reply post for the archives It seems like putting real IP addresses on the physical interfaces solved the whole problem. Before this, a dirty workaround was to have a script with "arp pings" in crontab. Conclusion: Don't use CARP addresses only if these are connected against a Cisco

Re: Sendmail security problem

On 2006/03/24 14:12, Alexander Bochmann wrote: > ...on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 12:22:37PM +0100, Anthony Howe wrote: > > > I installed 8.13.6 last night from the source tar ball on two machines > > (one is OpenBSD 3.6, the other an old Linux box). Appears to be chugging > > along happily. Can't

Re: FTP Issues

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Hutger H. wrote: > - Analysing the firewall's traffic, I could notice that the problem > happens when the FTP server try to make a new connection back to the > client using I high port. I got some tutorials explaining how to solve > this problem using ftp-proxy and some PF rule

Re: OpenBGPd success & question

On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 02:44:46PM +0100, Marcel Prisi wrote: > Claudio Jeker a icrit : > > >This is not possible in OpenBGPD. I'm not even sure why we should add > >something like that. Could you please tell me why you need to change > >localpref depending on the path length? > >The BGP decision

Re: FTP Issues

Read man pf.conf and ftp-proxy # for proxying with ftp-proxy(8) running on port 8021. rdr on $int_if proto tcp from any to any port 21 -> 127.0.0.1 port 8021 pass in on $ext_if inet proto tcp from any to $ext_if \ user proxy keep state Ofcourse you have to enable ftp-proxy in ine

Re: FTP Issues

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 10:38:13AM -0300, Hutger H. wrote: > Hi all, > > I've got a problem running ftp through my PF firewall. That is the issue: > > - I installed a new firewall (OpenBSD 3.9) in my network to connect some > users to the Internet through a new link. The users need to connect via

OpenBSD greatest challenge

Hi misc, I'm a young sysadmin who really enjoy using free OSes, and especially OpenBSD, for his technical excellence, no doubt about that. I use OpenBSD for about 1 year, so I start to understand the way of thinking of the community, through misc@ reading. I take a lot of pleasure with OpenBSD,

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

Don't do that, that is extortion. If you don't want to make OpenBSD free-as-in-freedom, but not free-as-in-beer; well, there is another thing that might help. Companies will only donate if they gain something, not just code, I'm talking about money. I'm not a legal guy, but: isn't there a way to m

Re: 3Ware 9500S-12

Shane J Pearson napisaE(a): Hi MichaE, On 2006.02.24, at 10:24 PM, MichaE Koc wrote: can someone confirm that 3Ware 9500S-12 does or does not work with OpenBSD ? Based on what I last I heard, I think the most important point is that 3Ware the company, does not work with OpenBSD the proje

Re: FTP Issues

Hutger H. dixit (2006-03-24, 15:21:13): > - I installed a new firewall (OpenBSD 3.9) in my network to connect some > users to the Internet through a new link. The users need to connect via > FTP to a server located externally (Internet), so the connections must > to pass by the PF firewall. If yo

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 06:43:27AM -0700, Diana Eichert wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, mickey wrote: > SNAP > > sorry dude but you are full of shit. > > for example from history: > > how do you think bsd was developped originally at the ucb? > > > > cu > > > > -- > > paranoic mickey (my em

Re: copying software from the official iso

I thought my 'take' on the idea of the CDs was more commonplace. I will clarify it for consideration. The actual content of the CD is secondary in importance to many people purchasing it. People purchase the CD to support OpenBSD but with the added advantage that there is useful stuff for the popu

Re: FTP Issues

On Friday 24 March 2006 14:38, you wrote: > Hi all, > > I've got a problem running ftp through my PF firewall. That is the issue: > > - I installed a new firewall (OpenBSD 3.9) in my network to connect some > users to the Internet through a new link. The users need to connect via > FTP to a server

Re: OpenBGPd success & question

Claudio Jeker a icrit : Normaly you prepend some AS to the smaller link to make the pathes comming from that link more or less equal length with the other one. You may additionally classify the prefixes by communities but that only works if your uplink provider is setting them with some useful

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

--- Deanna Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That said, I think a wall of shame page on the OpenSSH site > might be a good idea: one listing all those big companies > mentioned that have never donated a dime. Negative PR might > result in more donations than managers receiving the minor > an

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, mickey wrote: > On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 06:43:27AM -0700, Diana Eichert wrote: SNIP > > Lot's of money flowing from the US Gov't Dept of Defense? > > and big companies... sorry Mickey, but I've been involved with DOD & DOE ( and it's predecessors) for almost 25 years. UC get

Re: OpenBGPd success & question

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 04:30:50PM +0100, Marcel Prisi wrote: > Claudio Jeker a icrit : > > >Normaly you prepend some AS to the smaller link to make the pathes comming > > > >from that link more or less equal length with the other one. > >You may additionally classify the prefixes by communities b

Re: Sendmail security problem

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 02:14:50PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2006/03/24 14:12, Alexander Bochmann wrote: > > ...on Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 12:22:37PM +0100, Anthony Howe wrote: > > > > > I installed 8.13.6 last night from the source tar ball on two machines > > > (one is OpenBSD 3.6, the

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

"Andris Delfino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Don't do that, that is extortion. Well, it needn't be so severe. It could simply be an addition to the users page ( http://www.openssh.org/users.html ) with parenthetical notes such as: ( has donated to the project -- thank you. ) next to those

DC, SATA ok nowadays?

Hi, I'm trying to get an idea about the next machine I'm going to purchase. So far, I'm aiming at some Opteron box (AMD 270 HE Dual-Core CPU? - DC series being claimed the only ones left having 940 sockets), possibly with SATA drives this time. The vendor I asked so far suggested using 3ware contr

Re: openbsd and the money

Alexander Bochmann wrote: ..on Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 02:52:55PM +0100, Alexander Bochmann wrote: > So it's probably easier to get a company > to order a few hundred CDs instead of a donation. By the way, the golden CD signed by all core developers for $9000 might just be the thing to add t

NIC question (SysKonnect)

I hope that I'm just missing the obvious whilst looking for Zebras... OpenBSD 3.8 and 3.9-current. i386 architecture, GENERIC kernel build. SysKonnect SK-9D21 10/100/1000 Copper NIC. Per the page, this should be the Broadcom BCM570x driver (bge). How

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

(I'm so sorry that I'm continuing this thread...) There is quite a conflict between the core developers that don't wish to spend their time nicely holding newbies' hands (frankly, I don't want them to spend their time on that either), and the touchy-feely people that think OpenBSD would progre

Re: openbsd and the money

Hi! On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 02:52:55PM +0100, Alexander Bochmann wrote: >...on Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 01:42:48PM +0100, Hannah Schroeter wrote: > > I don't actually understand what that whining about tax deduction is > > about. >My guess is that it's not about the tax deduction in >itself (althou

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On 2006/03/24 11:20, Ryan Fox wrote: > Why don't we have separate lists? One for general questions, and gently > guiding new users to the FAQ and man pages? Like misc@ and http://mailman.theapt.org/listinfo/openbsd-newbies, you mean?

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

Hi! On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 11:20:19AM -0500, Ryan Fox wrote: >Why don't we have separate lists? One for general questions, and gently >guiding new users to the FAQ and man pages? It can be all fuzzy and >warm; a place for pleasantries. And a separate list for more experienced >users that wan

Re: openbsd and the money

On Mar 24, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Pedro Timsteo wrote: Alexander Bochmann wrote: ..on Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 02:52:55PM +0100, Alexander Bochmann wrote: > So it's probably easier to get a company > to order a few hundred CDs instead of a donation. By the way, the golden CD signed by all core d

Re: openbsd and the money

On 3/24/06, frantisek holop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "Anyone who has ever decided not to go back to a resturaunt > that has good food because of shitty service is in the same > boat here." > Everyone uses OpenSSH so that's a stupid analogy or everyone's a hypocrite. Anyway, the service is f

Re: Bank transfers for donating

As an experiment, I'm going to donate a nice, large sum via this method. Somewhere in the process we'll toss a label of "military grade encryption". I've calculated out the costs, and when you add up the resulting free room and board...it actually results in a profit. -Mike On 3/23/06, Theo de

Re: OpenBGPd success & question

Claudio Jeker wrote: But your right we need AS path regex support... Funny you should mention that, I've just been speaking with Henning about the exact same thing - Although more for classifying routes on ingress than for pure TE alone. Cheers, Karl

Re: NIC question (SysKonnect)

On 2006/03/24 09:24, Ed Vazquez wrote: > unknown vendor 0x14bc product 0xd002 (class network subclass > miscellaneous, rev 0x01) at pci0 dev 12 function 0 not configured That sounds like a PCI ADSL card (14bc=Globespan). > Help? Can I provide better data (let me know how)? _Complete_ dmesg.

Re: openbsd and the money

> > So it's probably easier to get a company > > to order a few hundred CDs instead of a donation. > > By the way, the golden CD signed by all core > developers for $9000 might just be the thing > to add to the store. :) After it costs $8500 to get it Fedex'd back and forth all over the worl

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On 3/24/06, chefren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Demand something like $50 a year for access to the ftp.openbsd.org now!!! great idea. that's $50 from ibm, $50 from sun, $50 from redhat, and $50 from apple. $200 sounds about right to cover all the expenses. in case the project ends up using a l

Re: openbsd and the money

> > I don't actually understand what that whining about tax deduction is > > about. > > My guess is that it's not about the tax deduction in > itself (although that certainly helps), it's about > the receipt. > > Companies very much like to generate a proper paper > trail when they hand out

Re: openbsd and the money

On 2006/03/24 15:13, Pedro Timsteo wrote: > Or, like someone suggested a couple of weeks ago: > > "OpenBSD Enterprise Edition": it's exactly the same software, but comes > on 20 (mostly empty) CDs, and costs 100 times as much. :) Same CD set, booklet turned around to display a boring alternative

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On 3/24/06, Ryan Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There is quite a conflict between the core developers that don't wish to > spend their time nicely holding newbies' hands (frankly, I don't want > them to spend their time on that either), and the touchy-feely people > that think OpenBSD would pr

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

On Thu, Mar 23, 2006 at 08:17:42PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > > http://www.digg.com/linux_unix/OpenBSD_needs_a_major_donor > > http://bsd.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/21/1555243 > > > > No one seems to care (unless donations have shot up and Theo, et. al. > > haven't mentioned it) > > >Fr

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > That said, I think a wall of shame page on the OpenSSH site > > might be a good idea: one listing all those big companies > > mentioned that have never donated a dime. Negative PR might > > result in more donations than managers receiving the minor > > annoyance message

Re: NIC question (SysKonnect)

Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2006/03/24 09:24, Ed Vazquez wrote: >> unknown vendor 0x14bc product 0xd002 (class network subclass >> miscellaneous, rev 0x01) at pci0 dev 12 function 0 not configured > > That sounds like a PCI ADSL card (14bc=Globespan). > >> Help? Can I provide better data (let m

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Why don't we have separate lists? One for general questions, > and gently > guiding new users to the FAQ and man pages? It can be all fuzzy and > warm; a place for pleasantries. And a separate list for more > experienced > users that want to dwell in the lair of dr

Re: Site indexing application

On 3/21/06, Gabriel George POPA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello misc, > >I must install a search facility for my site. Do you know what is the > most appropriate (Harvest, ht://Dig, Nutch?). I've used Nutch (from > Apache.org) before on my old Slackware 10.1 machine and I didn't

Re: OpenBSD and the money

On a more productive note... >From the Donations page: Simply send a donation cheque in CDN/US/EUR funds made out to Theo de Raadt, since cheques made out to "OpenBSD" cannot be cashed. This creates a problem for companies that want to make donations. I think we all agree we'd rather see larger

Re: openbsd and the money

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 10:29:19AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote: > That said, when 4.0 comes out there will likely be an audio CD made of > all 11 of the songs, with artwork to match, sold seperately. The songs are great - but like open{bsd,ssh} already at the public ftp servers. I don't think that

Re: openbsd and the money

On Mar 24, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Kevin wrote: We can (and do) have the company purchase one copy of each release CD set. I might be able to convince them to go for Jason Dixon's offer (if it's still valid), though it might need a little polishing to be buzzword-compliant. If there is interest, t

how do I make the history file created by ksh readable?

I am taking an "Intro to UNIX" class at school. The teacher has asked that we send him a copy of our .history files to show what steps we used to complete certain assignments. I was able to setup the history in my .profile by reading ksh(1), but after I rebooted and issued a few commands, I

Re: openbsd and the money

On 3/24/06, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > These are not people who want to give. They want to give > without giving. They simply want to focus their money into > being a writeoff, which means that our taxation systems > increasingly place more and more of a burden on individuals, > a

Re: how do I make the history file created by ksh readable?

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Bryan Brake wrote: > I am taking an "Intro to UNIX" class at school. The teacher has asked that we > send him a copy of our .history files to show what steps we used to complete > certain assignments. I was able to setup the history in my .profile by > reading ksh(1), but aft

Re: how do I make the history file created by ksh readable?

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:44:26 -0800 Bryan Brake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a way to configure ksh to make the > commands display one command per line, or will I > have to edit it manually. Just type "history" and it will display it nicely for you. Adam

Re: how do I make the history file created by ksh readable?

Bryan Brake wrote: I am taking an "Intro to UNIX" class at school. The teacher has asked that we send him a copy of our .history files to show what steps we used to complete certain assignments. I was able to setup the history in my .profile by reading ksh(1), but after I rebooted and issued a

Re: how do I make the history file created by ksh readable?

Adam wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 11:44:26 -0800 Bryan Brake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Is there a way to configure ksh to make the commands display one command per line, or will I have to edit it manually. Just type "history" and it will display it nicely for you. Adam Many thanks to Adam,

Re: openbsd and the money

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Kevin wrote: SNIP > We can (and do) have the company purchase one copy of each release CD set. > I might be able to convince them to go for Jason Dixon's offer (if > it's still valid), though it might need a little polishing to be > buzzword-compliant. Jason't offer is still a

Re: how do I make the history file created by ksh readable?

On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 11:44:26AM -0800, Bryan Brake wrote: > Is there a way to configure ksh to make the > commands display one command per line, or will I > have to edit it manually. Just redirect the output of fc -nl to a file. Ciao, Kili -- tabs are holier than spaces

Re: Broadcom BCM5701 NICs: Only ICMP, no TCP/UDP?

On 3/23/06, Alexander Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > * Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 3/23/06, Alexander Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I tried to install OpenBSD 3.8 on a box with two Gigabit 3Com cards with > > > Broadcom BCM5701 chipset. I set up networking

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

Hey I don't usually say much on the mailing list, but if I could make just 1 suggestion, offer CD's, posters and BSDWare VIA Paypal payments. I know myself, I dumped my credit cards because, well, I like to spend, But I have replaced that with my paypal usage and would use paypal to purchase

Re: openbsd and the money

On Mar 24, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Diana Eichert wrote: On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, Kevin wrote: SNIP We can (and do) have the company purchase one copy of each release CD set. I might be able to convince them to go for Jason Dixon's offer (if it's still valid), though it might need a little polishing to

Re: openbsd and the money -solutions

James Mackinnon wrote: If you do offer paypal for the stuff above, I will buy more frequently as to do my part to help support the System I trust with my systems/network security. I will send a donation now as well as I can do that VIA paypal (won't be large, but it will be a donation) It'

Re: openbsd and the money

On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 15:59:31 -0500, Jason Dixon proclaimed... > Or the main page at http://www.dixongroup.net/?q=openbsd. What about a "gold" bundle that is $1000 or more? I mean, money is just water to most corporations. If there's a legit product, hell, they pay anything for it.

Re: Site indexing application

On 3/24/06, Gabriel George POPA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Frank Denis wrote: > I installed Hyper Estraier but now, because it is in chroot, it cannot > find the libraries it depends on. I had this problem quite a few times > with different programs. I did not have the time to solve it (with ot

Re: NIC question (SysKonnect)

On 2006/03/24 10:25, Ed Vazquez wrote: > OK, here's the full dmesg from 3.9-current (which is what I > installed this morning...), I should have included it earlier, so my > apologies for the oversight. > 0x01pci_intr_map: no mapping for pin D > : couldn't map interrupt Did you notice this? I'd s

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