Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-07-22 Thread Michael R. Littlejohn
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 23:32:28 Han Boetes wrote: > Even though I don't agree with you -- since the man threatened me > with violence after a very thoughtful remark: On the matter of > GPL/BSD license preference I suggested to respect each others > opinion instead of verbally insulting one anoth

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-07-21 Thread Han Boetes
Even though I don't agree with you -- since the man threatened me with violence after a very thoughtful remark: On the matter of GPL/BSD license preference I suggested to respect each others opinion instead of verbally insulting one another. -- I do appreciate your attempt to have a sane conversati

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-07-21 Thread Michael R. Littlejohn
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 18:05:39 Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote: > On 21 July 2010 20:25, Michael R. Littlejohn > > wrote: > > On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:07:45 Bryan wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:24, Michael R. Littlejohn > >> wrote: > >> > >> blah blah blah... my opinion matters. I

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-07-21 Thread Neal Hogan
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 6:25 PM, Michael R. Littlejohn wrote: > On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:07:45 Bryan wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:24, Michael R. Littlejohn >> wrote: >> >> blah blah blah... my opinion matters. I want to zombie a troll >> thread... Seriously dude. > > Nevertheless, t

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-07-21 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
On 21 July 2010 20:25, Michael R. Littlejohn wrote: > On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:07:45 Bryan wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:24, Michael R. Littlejohn >> wrote: >> >> blah blah blah... my opinion matters. I want to zombie a troll >> thread... Seriously dude. > > Nevertheless, this list i

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-07-21 Thread Michael R. Littlejohn
On Wednesday 21 July 2010 10:07:45 Bryan wrote: > On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:24, Michael R. Littlejohn > wrote: > > blah blah blah... my opinion matters. I want to zombie a troll > thread... Seriously dude. Nevertheless, this list is open and available for anyone to comment. If my previous stat

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-07-21 Thread Bryan
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 11:24, Michael R. Littlejohn wrote: blah blah blah... my opinion matters. I want to zombie a troll thread... Seriously dude.

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-07-21 Thread Michael R. Littlejohn
On Thursday 10 June 2010 02:53:19 Eric Furman wrote: > Yes, Theo is an asshole. > Let me cut my own throat to prove I'm a good guy!. > Yea!! > BTW, Theo *IS* an asshole. > Most geniuses are ... > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:28 +0300, "Dexter Tomisson" > > wrote: > > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/w

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-16 Thread Andrew Fresh
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:28:40AM +0300, Dexter Tomisson wrote: > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:24:01AM +1000, Ted wrote: > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-almost-gave-openbsd-10-didnt.html Since for some reason this thread is sti

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-16 Thread Rod Whitworth
On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 08:13:59 +0200, Tomas Bodzar wrote: >. So I think that only man here with need for psychiatrist is author >of that posts/blog Tomas (and others), That line is all you need. If you need convincing go to the website and look at some of the articles linked on the right hand colum

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-15 Thread VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
"Theo de Raadt compares proprietary graphic drivers with apartheid" This made my day.

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-15 Thread Tomas Bodzar
I think that author is really big professional lier and troll. Or so stupid that it's not possible in this cosmos :D So first he wrote how he left OpenBSD because of this and this a and this, now after couple of days he wrote another post where he attacks against OpenBSD and says that after long re

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-15 Thread Siju George
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 6:54 AM, Ted wrote: > Agree he's a troll by name and by actions. He is praising and switched to > FreeBSD according to this post. Yet in his other post > (http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-almost-gave-openbsd-10-didnt.html) > he states he decided to donate $100,000

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-15 Thread Ted
On 10/06/2010, at 9:55 PM, Leonardo Carneiro - Veltrac wrote: > LeviaComm Networks NOC wrote: >> ... hell the word troll is in the URL. > > LOL! > > and in the last day, god said: "DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!" > Agree he's a troll by name and by actions. He is praising and switched to FreeBSD accordin

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-12 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 08:23:47PM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > On 6/11/10 7:46 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: >> Haha odbc and mysqueel you do like pain eh? > > I know. But it's fast and when customers use MySQL, then you flow with it. > >> Why do you need ms access? > > Strictly as a GUI interface

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-12 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Have you run flash successfully on OpenBSD? I have not had much luck. > Sorry, I haven't ran adobe flash on OpenBSD, running a linux browser and linux compatibility mode always put me off as I needed it so rarely. I know others have, but I'm not sure about recently. I ran gnash a while back a

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-12 Thread Kevin Chadwick
I did suggest more memory, but he was hard for cash at the time and vista was doing some stupid things anyway and it was so slow, taking 20 mins to boot that it was very difficult to speed up or fix because it took so long to do ANYTHING. He actually got an extra gig of memory yesterday and it has

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Peter Kay
Maybe I'm getting on a bit, but I don't consider swapping operating system to be the best option in that case. Vista may be a memory hog, but it's usually easier in the long run to spend cash on 4GB for a laptop, than to install and faff around with a whole new operating system.. Linux running out

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet
On 6/11/10 7:46 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: Haha odbc and mysqueel you do like pain eh? Anyway, I will let the tread die. I don't think it's of any interest to anyone and I shouldn't hijack treads. Thanks Marco. I am sure it's more boring them a great OpenBSD OS for sure! I wish I have an al

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet
On 6/11/10 7:46 PM, Marco Peereboom wrote: Haha odbc and mysqueel you do like pain eh? I know. But it's fast and when customers use MySQL, then you flow with it. Why do you need ms access? Strictly as a GUI interface only. Liek select a row and paste huge quantity of data that customers se

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Marco Peereboom
Haha odbc and mysqueel you do like pain eh? Why do you need ms access? I still don't get what the problem is. On Jun 11, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Daniel Ouellet wrote: This sounds like a very solvable problem unless it is a proprietary database. Nope. It's just MySQL. The only proprietary softwar

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet
This sounds like a very solvable problem unless it is a proprietary database. Nope. It's just MySQL. The only proprietary software I have to run on Solaris and that I wish I could run in OpenBSD is Broadworks from Broadsoft for VoIP. But I am dreaming to be able to do that!? If you have a su

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 02:34:42PM -0400, Daniel Ouellet wrote: >> These are all perception problems not real problems. Again, if one >> doesn't "need" flash one can do anything and everything on OpenBSD just >> fine. I am not claiming that OpenBSD should be used under all >> circumstances howeve

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Kevin Chadwick
Sorta messed up there For the record I know OpenBSD can run flash but I choose not to taint my OpenBSD boxes with it and linux code and boot something else when I do occasionally need it. > If OpenBSD ran flash and was easy for him to update he wouldn't have had > either of those problems. Maybe

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Daniel Ouellet
These are all perception problems not real problems. Again, if one doesn't "need" flash one can do anything and everything on OpenBSD just fine. I am not claiming that OpenBSD should be used under all circumstances however making blanket statements that OpenBSD can't handle it is dumb. Well, I

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Then there are those, like myself, that use OpenBSD for a few > specific tasks because doing it on OpenBSD is significantly less > painful than doing it on anything else. Personally I turn that on it's head Doing everything possible on OpenBSD aside from updating packages is less painful becaus

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Chris Dukes
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 05:32:00PM +0200, Marc Espie wrote: > On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:24:16AM -0400, Chris Dukes wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:28:40AM +0300, Dexter Tomisson wrote: > > > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html > > > > IHBT... > > > > There are those th

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Duncan Patton a Campbell
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 13:09:20 +0300 Dexter Tomisson wrote: > What a waste of bytes.. > > Which planet did you come from? > > Well, at least, are you able to read? > Ad-hominem crapola ==> 0 credibility. QED Dhu > > On 10 June 2010 12:10, S H wrote: > > > Dexter, > > > > I'm still rela

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Marc Espie
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:24:16AM -0400, Chris Dukes wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:28:40AM +0300, Dexter Tomisson wrote: > > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html > > IHBT... > > There are those that use OpenBSD for every bit of their computing > experience. I do not ev

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Marco Peereboom
On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 10:24:16AM -0400, Chris Dukes wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:28:40AM +0300, Dexter Tomisson wrote: > > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html > > IHBT... > > There are those that use OpenBSD for every bit of their computing > experience. I do not ev

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Chris Dukes
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:28:40AM +0300, Dexter Tomisson wrote: > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html IHBT... There are those that use OpenBSD for every bit of their computing experience. I do not even attempt to understand them. Then there are those, like myself, that use

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread David Walker
Theo presents the keynote at the hackathon. "Welcome new developers ... this is how we roll". http://www.users.on.net/~diw/remap.jpg Yes I don't know C from my elbow. Best wishes.

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Ed Ahlsen-Girard
> From: Kevin Chadwick > Date: 2010-06-10 15:00:54 > > > Man, it's not me. Just wanted to share that with you all. > > Like a dick in a pudding. > > You may want to share it with us all but no-one else wants you to. > > Meaning of words is what's important and from what I've seen,

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Nick Holland
On 06/11/10 02:55, Mitja Mu>enih wrote: >> Please, someone do an image macro. "I'm in ur router, remappin' yar keyz" > > Here you are: http://cheezburger.com/View/3620602624 > > (improved spelling checked through the awesome http://speaklolcat.com/ > service). Liek it? :) > > Mitja See? Seen o

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-11 Thread Mitja Muženič
> Please, someone do an image macro. "I'm in ur router, remappin' yar keyz" Here you are: http://cheezburger.com/View/3620602624 (improved spelling checked through the awesome http://speaklolcat.com/ service). Liek it? :) Mitja

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Damien Miller
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010, Samuel Baldwin wrote: > > Those who taste the de Raadt wrath, however, always run in the end. A friend > > of mine once incurred his ire by asking the wrong question at the wrong > > time, > > and Theo de Raadt hacked his router and remotely remapped his keyboard! > > hahaha

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Casey Allen Shobe
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:28 PM, Samuel Baldwin wrote: > > Those who taste the de Raadt wrath, however, always run in the end. A > friend > > of mine once incurred his ire by asking the wrong question at the wrong > time, > > and Theo de Raadt hacked his router and remotely remapped his keyboard!

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Samuel Baldwin
> Those who taste the de Raadt wrath, however, always run in the end. A friend > of mine once incurred his ire by asking the wrong question at the wrong time, > and Theo de Raadt hacked his router and remotely remapped his keyboard! hahahahahaha, slander? Hilarious either way. -- Samuel Baldwin

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO
He is just trolling... Just look at his postings...

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Kevin Chadwick
> Man, it's not me. Just wanted to share that with you all. Like a dick in a pudding. You may want to share it with us all but no-one else wants you to. Meaning of words is what's important and from what I've seen, theo meant very little which you have taken to heart. From the few examples I've

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread STeve Andre'
On Thursday 10 June 2010 06:04:21 Alexander Farber wrote: > I was hoping for some interesting arguments > > But there was just whining about Theo's personality > (with which I don't agree) and lack of some drivers > (blobs - no thank you) Why? What can possibly be said that will change anything?

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Christiano F. Haesbaert
I AM truly amazed, "people can't read" is indeed a fact.

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Leonardo Carneiro - Veltrac
LeviaComm Networks NOC wrote: ... hell the word troll is in the URL. LOL! and in the last day, god said: "DON'T FEED THE TROLLS!"

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Dexter Tomisson
What a waste of bytes.. Which planet did you come from? Well, at least, are you able to read? On 10 June 2010 12:10, S H wrote: > Dexter, > > I'm still relatively new to OpenBSD and the community, however a few > days ago you had asked about why large memory support still wasn't > enabled by

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Alexander Farber
I was hoping for some interesting arguments But there was just whining about Theo's personality (with which I don't agree) and lack of some drivers (blobs - no thank you)

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Eric Furman
Yes, Theo is an asshole. Let me cut my own throat to prove I'm a good guy!. Yea!! BTW, Theo *IS* an asshole. Most geniuses are ... On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 11:28 +0300, "Dexter Tomisson" wrote: > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread S H
Dexter, I'm still relatively new to OpenBSD and the community, however a few days ago you had asked about why large memory support still wasn't enabled by default. Asking if the developers needed hardware, funding or what not to get it working properly. If you were in fact a developer as your l

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Dunceor
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:45 AM, Dexter Tomisson wrote: > Man, it's not me. Just wanted to share that with you all. > > On 10 June 2010 11:40, Dunceor wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Dexter Tomisson >> wrote: >> > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html >> > >> >

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread LeviaComm Networks NOC
On 6/10/2010 1:44 AM, Casey Allen Shobe wrote: On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Dexter Tomissonwrote: http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html It's always funny when somebody ends up "leaving for their own good", that they need to write a lot about it and try to convince many

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Dexter Tomisson
Man, it's not me. Just wanted to share that with you all. On 10 June 2010 11:40, Dunceor wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Dexter Tomisson > wrote: > > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html > > > > > > Ok why write a long text and the only reason you have is that you

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Casey Allen Shobe
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Dexter Tomisson wrote: > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html > > It's always funny when somebody ends up "leaving for their own good", that they need to write a lot about it and try to convince many others to agree with their notions. Develop/

Re: Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Dunceor
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Dexter Tomisson wrote: > http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html > > Ok why write a long text and the only reason you have is that you are unhappy with driver support and with Theo? I was looking for some more indepth discussion on why you choose

Why I left OpenBSD

2010-06-10 Thread Dexter Tomisson
http://www.trollaxor.com/2010/06/why-i-left-openbsd.html