Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-24 Thread Reyk Floeter
On 24.11.2013, at 15:40, Mihai Popescu wrote: ... > As for the original poster, the author tried to find out a repulsive ... We all got it and there's is no need to continue with this annoying thread. OK? Thanks. Reyk

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-24 Thread Mihai Popescu
> Mihai, > > I find your name quite offensive. Can you please change it > in future mailings to this list. Perhaps "Mihai Humpingforjesus" ? > That would make me feel much better. Maybe I can do that, but doing so many things will have to change then. For example, "open" from OpenBSD is quite off

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-23 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Mihai Popescu [mih...@gmail.com] wrote: > Is it over? So soon? Mihai, I find your name quite offensive. Can you please change it in future mailings to this list. Perhaps "Mihai Humpingforjesus" ? That would make me feel much better.

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-23 Thread Mihai Popescu
Is it over? So soon?

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-23 Thread Kim Lidström
On 23/11/13 04:20, Jason Barbier wrote: > > On 11/22/2013 10:50 AM, Rick Pettit wrote: >> Lewis, >> >> If censorship is your thing, why don’t you start by censoring yourself. >> >> What you are asking for here is offensive. >> >> -Rick > +1 +1 >> >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Paolo Aglialoro

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Jason Barbier
On 11/22/2013 10:50 AM, Rick Pettit wrote: Lewis, If censorship is your thing, why don’t you start by censoring yourself. What you are asking for here is offensive. -Rick +1 On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Paolo Aglialoro wrote: Il 22/nov/2013 19:07 "J. Lewis Muir" ha scritto: On 11/22/1

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
> It looks like a pretty one-sided deal you're proposing: > passive-aggressive moves to control the speech of those who have > respected your freedom to express your opinion and be heard. Pretty > damned selfish behavior on your part as far as I can tell. Michael -- well said.

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Michael Motyka
On Nov 22, 2013, at 10:06 AM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: > On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: >> If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with >> the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life >> happy. Remember to always take this pill again on 1st of

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Eric Johnson
On Fri, 22 Nov 2013, J. Lewis Muir wrote: > On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: > > If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with > > the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life > > happy. Remember to always take this pill again on 1st of May, an

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 22 November 2013 10:06, J. Lewis Muir wrote: > On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: >> If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with >> the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life >> happy. Remember to always take this pill again on 1st of May,

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 09:48:02PM +0100, Alexander Hall wrote: > > I'm pretty sure Bob has noticed (and likely quite some time ago > ignored) this conversation. > > You made your point and argumented for it. It does not apply here > though, so stop. Now. Please. > Actually, the longer it runs,

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Alexander Hall
On 11/22/13 20:09, J. Lewis Muir wrote: On 11/22/13 12:34 PM, System Administrator wrote: Hi J. Lewis, I am not a developer, but I've been lurking on this list for a very long time and on that basis can tell you that you've committed two cardinal sins as far as this mailing list is concerned:

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Mikkel C. Simonsen
J. Lewis Muir wrote: If it's somehow offensive to them and can be changed in a small way not to be, then I would accept the patch to change it. Everybody wins--no big deal. If everybody adapts what they say, to what they think others want to hear, then we no longer have freedom of speach. Eve

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Jan Stary
On Nov 21 20:04:32, gil...@poolp.org wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 08:02:06PM +0100, za...@gmx.com wrote: > > Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it > > would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for > > whatever reason You emails are controversial, ap

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
> > I don't see it that way. Huckleberry Finn is a book, and I don't need > > to read it unless I want to. The spamd(8) man page is a man page I need > > to read in order to understand how to use spamd. > > Let me fix that for you: > > "The spamd(8) man page is a man page I don't need to read i

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Theo de Raadt
> 2) OpenBSD is the ultimate volunteer effort -- the developers do it in > their "free" time FOR PERSONAL FUN. Many of them have made it very > clear that they would cease development if it stops being fun. Your > original message (title and intro) goes to the heart of this issue. Its > tone an

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 01:09:36PM -0600, J. Lewis Muir wrote: > I don't see it that way. Huckleberry Finn is a book, and I don't need > to read it unless I want to. The spamd(8) man page is a man page I need > to read in order to understand how to use spamd. Let me fix that for you: "The spam

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread System Administrator
Hi J. Lewis, I am not a developer, but I've been lurking on this list for a very long time and on that basis can tell you that you've committed two cardinal sins as far as this mailing list is concerned: 1) you failed to do your homework -- had you done some research, in particular about the O

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 11/22/13 12:34 PM, System Administrator wrote: > Hi J. Lewis, > > I am not a developer, but I've been lurking on this list for a very > long time and on that basis can tell you that you've committed two > cardinal sins as far as this mailing list is concerned: > > 1) you failed to do your homewo

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Donald Allen
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 1:06 PM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: > On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: >> If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with >> the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life >> happy. Remember to always take this pill again on 1st o

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Rick Pettit
Lewis, If censorship is your thing, why don’t you start by censoring yourself. What you are asking for here is offensive. -Rick On Nov 22, 2013, at 12:26 PM, Paolo Aglialoro wrote: > Il 22/nov/2013 19:07 "J. Lewis Muir" ha scritto: >> >> On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: >>>

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Marti Martinez
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 11:06 AM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: > Well, no one wants to maintain a patch forever. You lead a charmed life, my friend. Be well.

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Paolo Aglialoro
Il 22/nov/2013 19:07 "J. Lewis Muir" ha scritto: > > On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: > > If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with > > the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life > > happy. Remember to always take this pill again on 1st o

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 11/22/13 11:17 AM, Giancarlo Razzolini wrote: > If it's offensive for you, compile your own spamd man page with > the diff you so happily provided, and live the rest of your life > happy. Remember to always take this pill again on 1st of May, and 1st > of November, every year. Hi, Giancarlo. W

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-22 Thread Giancarlo Razzolini
Em 21-11-2013 18:44, J. Lewis Muir escreveu: > Hi, Shawn. I understand that, and I'm not trying to tell people how > they should talk on a mailing list. But to me documentation for a > project like OpenBSD is different. It's not individual people talking > however they like to talk. It's well-writt

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Ted Unangst
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 21:47, Alexander Hall wrote: > > I'm vegan, but I can cope with this: > > $ zgrep -rw deadbeef /usr/share/man/ > /usr/share/man/man1/perlembed.1:\&deadbeef > /usr/share/man/man1/perlfaq5.1:\&# Pity the poor deadbeef. > /usr/share/man/man5/bgpd.conf.5:tcp md5sig key

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013, at 11:33 AM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: > I found some of the example email addresses and domains in the spamd(8) > man page to be somewhat "adult" in nature. If given the choice, I'd > choose to read the man page without the adult content. Here's a patch > against -current that r

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Wayne Oliver
On 21 Nov 2013, at 21:04, Gilles Chehade wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 08:02:06PM +0100, za...@gmx.com wrote: >> Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it >> would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for >> whatever reason -- even if in *my* concept of

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Alexander Hall
On 11/21/13 21:44, J. Lewis Muir wrote: On 11/21/13 2:12 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013, at 11:33 AM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: I found some of the example email addresses and domains in the spamd(8) man page to be somewhat "adult" in nature. If given the choice, I'd choose to read

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 11/21/13 2:12 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > On Thu, Nov 21, 2013, at 11:33 AM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: >> I found some of the example email addresses and domains in the >> spamd(8) man page to be somewhat "adult" in nature. If given the >> choice, I'd choose to read the man page without the adult co

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Alexander Hall
On 11/21/13 20:51, J. Lewis Muir wrote: I do like the software; that's why I was reading about it. And I like the documentation too; I think it's very good. I was not intending to be critical of the documentation; rather, I was just wishing I didn't have to read a few examples that to me were

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Chris Cappuccio
Shawn K. Quinn [skqu...@rushpost.com] wrote: > > $ find /usr/src -type f | xargs grep -w fuck > $ find /usr/src -type f | xargs grep -w shit > find -type f ? How about just grep -r ?

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 11/21/13 1:11 PM, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe >> it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for >> whatever reason -- even if in *my* concept of morality there was >> nothing wrong with it. > > The people who write co

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013, at 01:51 PM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: > I was just wishing I didn't have to read a few examples that to me > were off-color. Honestly, those examples are no worse than "'Gnomovision' (which makes passes at compilers)". You haven't begun to see "off-color" until you've seen some

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
> A reasonable person is the one who takes into consideration others, > among other things. Yes, take into consider others, LIKE THE AUTHOR. Who, if you'll notice the copyright notice, is the premier "other" to be taken into consideration. I see gmx.com and yet you seem to know little of the mo

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Brad Smith
On 21/11/13 2:15 PM, za...@gmx.com wrote: On 2013-11-21 20:04, Gilles Chehade wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 08:02:06PM +0100, za...@gmx.com wrote: Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason --

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread zalit
On 2013-11-21 20:04, Gilles Chehade wrote: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 08:02:06PM +0100, za...@gmx.com wrote: Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason -- even if in *my* concept of morality there

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
> Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would > be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason > -- even if in *my* concept of morality there was nothing wrong with it. The people who write code get to decide how they document it. If someone

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Theo de Raadt
> On 11/21/13 12:23 PM, Nick Holland wrote: > > Stuff like this is part of the fun for people developing OpenBSD (and > > hopefully, fun for some of the users). Please understand that we > > don't want anyone to take away our fun. > > Hi, Nick. > > I understand the concept of fun within a projec

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Gilles Chehade
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 08:02:06PM +0100, za...@gmx.com wrote: > Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it > would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for > whatever reason -- even if in *my* concept of morality there was > nothing wrong with it. > I feel

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread zalit
Different people have different concepts of morality. I believe it would be better to remove anything that is controversial, for whatever reason -- even if in *my* concept of morality there was nothing wrong with it.

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Janne Johansson
2013/11/21 J. Lewis Muir > On 11/21/13 12:23 PM, Nick Holland wrote: > > Stuff like this is part of the fun for people developing OpenBSD (and > > hopefully, fun for some of the users). Please understand that we > > don't want anyone to take away our fun. > > Hi, Nick. > > I understand the conce

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread J. Lewis Muir
On 11/21/13 12:23 PM, Nick Holland wrote: > Stuff like this is part of the fun for people developing OpenBSD (and > hopefully, fun for some of the users). Please understand that we > don't want anyone to take away our fun. Hi, Nick. I understand the concept of fun within a project, and I'm all f

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Nick Holland
On 11/21/2013 12:33 PM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: I found some of the example email addresses and domains in the spamd(8) man page to be somewhat "adult" in nature. If given the choice, I'd choose to read the man page without the adult content. Here's a patch against -current that replaces the adult

Re: Patch to remove "adult" content from spamd(8) man page

2013-11-21 Thread Todd Alan Smith
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:33 AM, J. Lewis Muir wrote: > I found some of the example email addresses and domains in the spamd(8) > man page to be somewhat "adult" in nature. If given the choice, I'd > choose to read the man page without the adult content. Here's a patch > against -current that