On 6/12/07, Jeff Quast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/11/07, Karsten McMinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 6/10/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's just as stupid as requiring people have a cert. Lots of people have
> > certs because so many places toss your resume if you don't have
On 6/11/07, Karsten McMinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On 6/10/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's just as stupid as requiring people have a cert. Lots of people have
> certs because so many places toss your resume if you don't have "MCSE" or
> "CCNA" listed on it. Just because they hav
On 6/11/07, Karsten McMinn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
alot of anti-cert sentiment. borderline misinformation in
some cases. I've interviewed folks with and without certs.
I don't know why some people insist on arguing
that "book != cover"[1] with regard to certs. silly.
here's a couple points fo
On 6/11/07, Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Indeed. The problem isn't with certification in itself but the way it
currently works in the IT industry. The majority of the people with
certification got it by going to a boot camp or buying one of them
examcram books thus end up with a certif
Diana Eichert wrote:
Uggg, certs, I give little credence to any "vendor" cert. So many
people use "bootcamps" for tests and walk away with little more than
paper. I know, I work with them.
Indeed. The problem isn't with certification in itself but the way it
currently works in the IT indus
On 6/10/07, Adam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That's just as stupid as requiring people have a cert. Lots of people have
certs because so many places toss your resume if you don't have "MCSE" or
"CCNA" listed on it. Just because they have a cert doesn't mean they don't
know what they're doing.
On 6/11/07, Daniel Ouellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The Admin that really know their stuff, will put them just as an other
stone in their knowledge, but sadly most will put it on top and as first
to justify they are good and know what you need and these same one will
also put in to all their em
Adam wrote:
Daniel Ouellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Time have show my over and over that candidate that need to justify what
they know by papers are not the one that get the job done when you are
in crisis and as such, that become my quick filter before the interview
as to who not to invite
Daniel Ouellet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Time have show my over and over that candidate that need to justify what
> they know by papers are not the one that get the job done when you are
> in crisis and as such, that become my quick filter before the interview
> as to who not to invite.
Tha
dreamwvr wrote:
Just my 2 cents. Personally there is nothing wrong with making money.
What I find sad is when that becomes the only way to enter the fray.
For example the CISSP certification cost quite a bit and is used as
a secret handshake by quite a few corps. It is the tip of the iceberg
an
Uggg, certs, I give little credence to any "vendor" cert. So many people
use "bootcamps" for tests and walk away with little more than paper. I
know, I work with them.
I'm proud to say I'm darn near uneducated, besides the 15 month tech
certificate in Optics/Photonics I received from a local
On Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 02:28:30AM +0200, Rico Secada wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 00:28:08 +0200
> Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > * Rico Secada wrote:
> >
> > > What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org?
> >
> > It is as useless as MSCE and all the ot
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 00:28:08 +0200
Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Rico Secada wrote:
>
> > What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org?
>
> It is as useless as MSCE and all the other vendor certificates. I would
> even go so far to claim it's a lot worse
On 6/8/07, Marc Balmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
* Rico Secada wrote:
> What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org?
It is as useless as MSCE and all the other vendor certificates. I would
even go so far to claim it's a lot worse than a Microsoft or Cisco
certific
* Rico Secada wrote:
> What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org?
It is as useless as MSCE and all the other vendor certificates. I would
even go so far to claim it's a lot worse than a Microsoft or Cisco
certificate.
This is not backed by any industry, it just re
On 6/8/07, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Taking a certification doesn't prove anything imho. And the way that they
focus on the 4 different BSD's.. you could have someone being an expert
in OpenBSD yet he has never used DragonflyBSD, would this make him less
interesting to hire for a BSD
On 6/8/07, Rico Secada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi
What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org?
Is this a good idea? From my perspective it looks like a smart marketing
way. A way to make money from people who think this would
help in some way.
Read up about the
Rico Secada wrote:
Hi
What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org?
i think it gives me a massive erection. the quality of an admin is
measurable directly as a function of the extraneous certifications they
have, duh!
Is this a good idea? From my perspective
Hi
What do you think of The BSD Certification Group at bsdcertification.org?
Is this a good idea? From my perspective it looks like a smart marketing
way. A way to make money from people who think this would
help in some way.
Taking a certification doesn't prove anything imho. And the way that
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