On 6/11/07, Lars Hansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Indeed. The problem isn't with certification in itself but the way it
currently works in the IT industry. The majority of the people with
certification got it by going to a boot camp or buying one of them
examcram books thus end up with a certificate yet knowing nothing of value.

That's why there are some highly ethical companies that not only
provide training but REAL, HONEST-TO-GOODNESS experience!  How?!

You see, they analyzed the market, and came to the conclusion that
being a cert mill is impeding their marketability - ie, all those
whiners who paid for the class and can't get jobs is causing a lack of
new people who want to give them lots of money.  So, they have to
offer value-add.  Now, the people actually _running_ the show ain't
stupid, and really, its easy to see, have cert, no experience == no
job.  Getting the cert is easy - heck, don't they do it day in day
out?

How the heck do you get someone some hard earned experience?!!!

*ponder*

*ponder some more*

<action fx="lightbulb">AHA!  Lets do a paid internship program.  This
is how it works.  *YOU* pay them a large sum of money, usually around
US$10k or so, and in return, you get all the training you want for a
year or some such.  Or perhaps they guarantee you a msce cert.  OK,
that takes care of step 1.  Step 2, once you pass any exam, you now
get to teach that class.  Since it's an internship, they don't have to
pay you (see above note about US$10k).  After about 6 months or so,
hey, you now have 6 months of actual HONEST-TO-GOODNESS TEACHING
EXPERIENCE!!!!!  And you can even tell your new potential employers
that you're so good that YOU CAN TEACH THE CLASS!!!!!!!

And the best part about this program - it's self renewing.  After all,
the folks who paid $10k for the certs need the experience of teaching
other fools too, right?

-Mr. Sarcasm 'r' Us, for those who can't read between the lines.
--
"This officer's men seem to follow him merely out of idle curiosity."
-- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation.

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