> As for the "politics":
I see no politics. I see no UNIX policy or politics nor Windows. I see
no IBM policy nor RedHat.
There are people who do software for money. Same with hardware. You
develop what can you sell. Then you do software for it that you can
sell too. I suppose you can do a memory
> ... if anyone wants to see what is wrong with the acpi.
I doubt this will fix your setup: see what is wrong with acpi and even
find what is wrong doesn't imply it can be fixed or anybody gives some
time for fixing it.
I have run probably in the same problem with my hardware, the OpenBSD
didn't
> I'm thinking of purchasing parts to an all ...
I thought hacking is done on other people's computers, so why should
you need to buy one? :)
On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 6:44 PM Kenneth Gober wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 2:57 PM Mihai Popescu wrote:
>>
>> So, my idea is to preface all remaining sections with echo -n
>> "Starting to do X " then ending with "Done." Pretty much like
>&
On Fri, Feb 28, 2025 at 6:44 PM Kenneth Gober wrote:
>
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 2:57 PM Mihai Popescu wrote:
>>
>> So, my idea is to preface all remaining sections with echo -n
>> "Starting to do X " then ending with "Done." Pretty much like
>&
> so I guess all that ends well is well :)
I thought there is no guess in OpenBSD, but now I see that i was wrong [1].
[1]
http://man.openbsd.org/?query=guess&apropos=1&sec=0&arch=default&manpath=OpenBSD-current
On Thu, Feb 27, 2025 at 9:42 PM Janne Johansson wrote:
>
> Den tors 27 feb. 2025 kl 18:02 skrev Mihai Popescu :
> >
> > So the fact that the installer stops every time at this sentence
> > "Making all device nodes... done."
> > has no meaning?
> >
&g
So the fact that the installer stops every time at this sentence
"Making all device nodes... done."
has no meaning?
Is that script present on cwsweb?
I installed FreeBSD 14.2, then I remembered I have some post on misc@
with my old dmesg.
Yes, Debian Linux 12.9 and FreeBSD 14.2 installs fine, as I said
OpenBSD used to install fine.
OpenBSD 7.5-current (GENERIC.MP) #233: Tue Aug 6 16:01:09 MDT 2024
dera...@amd64.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arc
> https://www.openbsd.org/report.html
My rusty programming skills tell me this:
*Released versions problem reports < skipped since i use snapshots
*Current version problem reports < take this branch
* 1 - 4 skipped
* 5 < take this branch ( read and write the lists)
* How to create a problem rep
> I think you've been on this mailing list long enough to know what goes
> into a usable problem report.
Let me say in another way: the computer is dead, no keystroke
registered, no NUMLOCK, no nothing. What the hell should i do, prepare
a serial interface with a second computer? Will i get someth
Hello,
Using this amd64 snapshot:
Build date: 1740543990 - Wed Feb 26 04:26:30 UTC 2025
The installer stops at:
"Making all device nodes... done."
_
A button reboot is necessary. Not able to boot from install afterwards.
Do you find something harmful in sharing a dmesg for your laptop?
Thank you.
If it is allowed to say, I am interested in what machine model it was
used and what is the broken part? Just from the reliability point of
view.
Thank you.
Hello,
Just installed openbsd/amd64 snapshot, cwm and started an xterm to
install packages as a root user. Doing some ALT+TAB with another
terminal window and Firefox and suddenly my root xterm lost keyboard
input. It was impossible to type something, even after closing all
other windows.
Also my
> list the chipsets it supports
You may find it later that "supported" is not what you are thinking of.
There is something there as a hardware driver, but sometimes is an
ugly puzzle gathered from multiple sources, most of the time without
vendor documentation, not tested enough, etc. Some develop
> Am I the only one experiencing this? Can it be a hardware issue?
If I recall correctly, there is a verbose option for kernel booting or
a debug kernel. I'm sorry but I cannot be more precise, I never used
it. I remember it shows some extra details when booting.
Maybe someone very familiar with t
On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 4:55 PM Peter N. M. Hansteen wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 31, 2024 at 03:01:22PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
> > If your intention is/was to help a new OpenBSD user to install
> > packages, then my feedback is a simple no. This article is far from
> &g
Hello,
If your intention is/was to help a new OpenBSD user to install
packages, then my feedback is a simple no. This article is far from
helping a beginner to easily install packages.
> Can be we get a port of flashprog [1], please?
flashrom
See the inserted comments, please.
On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 3:54 PM Janne Johansson wrote:
>
> > > > What is this kernel lock everybody talks about. I mean what is locked?
> > > > Some actions must be done and devs call lock before and after it is
> > > > done, they call unlock?
> > > > What is ker
On Wed, Aug 7, 2024 at 2:35 PM Janne Johansson wrote:
>
> > What is this kernel lock everybody talks about. I mean what is locked?
> > Some actions must be done and devs call lock before and after it is
> > done, they call unlock?
> > What is kernel lock doing exactly, it prevents other procedures
It is really fabulous. I never think of that speed gain.
What is this kernel lock everybody talks about. I mean what is locked?
Some actions must be done and devs call lock before and after it is
done, they call unlock?
What is kernel lock doing exactly, it prevents other procedures to run?
I am n
> I suspect there's an issue with the crystal ball daemon.
So the crystal was cracked.
Hello,
Nothing wrong to report, but after installing latest amd64 snapshot i
was happy to see that there is a speed increase in all application
GUIs. Maybe the background run got some speed to, i didn't checked
yet.
Chromium is brilliantly fast, no delays in opening, minimal delays in
rendering p
> [...] such a evil that it affects humanity [...]
Just one question, please: who put you in charge to defend humanity?
I don;t care about the answer, but go defend the humanity out of the misc@.
Please.
> So my current speculation is that OpenBSD has a problem booting _from_USB_ on
> this laptop.
I think it should be like this:
"So my current speculation is that LAPTOP has a problem booting
_from_USB_ on this OpneBSD."
As a note, every time i see "speculation" word my mind associates it
with th
> In this day and age, I find it more frustrating [...]
Me too. But with the people trying to be real experts in what they are
clearly not.
> I havn't got no mails in the last two days.
> Can you tell me something about the issue?
I was very unfortunate in the last 10 years.
Can you fix this? Or help me to debug.
tx
> ... reading posts from people using these on other OS (which aren't very
> positive) I > wouldn't think this is worth the trouble.
Somebody I know has a mainboard with Realtek chipset with 2.5Gb rate
and runs Windows 11. On Auto mode, the card "jumps" and locks on 100Mb
mode in a 1Gb network. T
> A quick note that the slightly older M625q (with an AMD processor) isn't
> quite so good with OpenBSD.
What exactly is "good" with OpenBSD?
> It runs overly slow and I have yet had time to figure out why.
So again, what is "slow"?
> Interestingly, even on apm -H it takes longer to compile a
> How does fw_update install the drivers?
> How does it know which driver is missing on the system?
Just list the following sequence (outputs inserted too):
$ which fw_update
/usr/sbin/fw_update
$ cat /usr/sbin/fw_update
#!/bin/ksh
# $OpenBSD: fw_update.sh,v 1.56 2024/03/21 01:02:29 afresh1
https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=165231418528297&w=2
> Any ideas if it's remediable or where to start digging?
Linux has drivers for devices shutdown when not used and idle power
states, pretty much like Windows has. Android, who is Linux derived,
took this concept to a much higher level.
Think of a wireless card and you can see on man ath(4): " The
I do not compile a qualitative list of bullshits, but this got a place
on some imaginary bullshit list for sure.
From: Katherine Mcmillan
Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2024 12:30:03 PM
To: Harald Dunkel
Subject: Re: bad first impression of
> That seems... unusual. Do you have an (old) IDE compatibility option turned
> on in
> the BIOS? I would have expected it to attach via AHCI:
> sd0 at scsibus1 targ 2 lun 0:
>I have a problem where files recently downloaded go missing ...
> I tried searching internet, nothing of answer came in view
Well, since we are at the fun section of @misc (explanation: there is
a message where user claim keyboard types by itself, mouse is moving
by itself, one user has missing s
Just curious, what happens when you do:
# cat
Captain Warez, Sir,
This list has already its share of spam and i think it doesn't need
yours. Some of us are reading messages from web list archivers like
marc.info. I don't need your offtopic messages there and neither your
answers to your own messages. Find another list for this purpose.
Thank
:
>
> Hi Mihai,
>
> Mihai Popescu wrote on Thu, Dec 28, 2023 at 01:32:34AM +0200:
>
> > [ removed elaborate instruction about going html from almost txt with
> > man pages ]
> >
> > All this to jump in html boat? Or I got it wrong?
> > Are old m
[ removed elaborate instruction about going html from almost txt with
man pages ]
All this to jump in html boat? Or I got it wrong?
Are old man pages deprecated?
> Why didn't you just bump the daemon datasize in /etc/login.conf to the
> required value?
Because The Creator said once this is there for a reason and if you
keep "bumping" it, maybe it should be removed.
Please post your dmesg. If you don't know what it is or how to get it
please search the internet.
Tell the list how the /home/media is mounted. Again , if you don;t
know how ... search the internet.
If you are using some configuration options inside a file for mpv
please list them here.
I don't
> The point of appimage is to work on any Linux distro.
But it is not working. Like many other ideas created to work on any distro ...
On Thu, Dec 07, 2023 at 03:39:33PM +, Lévai, Dániel wrote:
> Hi all!
>
> Recently my trusty T410 died (had iwn(4) in it) and had to switch to an E450
> - but \
> this has iwm(4). Never had any issues with iwn(4) and iwm(4) seems to operate
> \
> perfectly fine in some scenarios, e.g. speedtes
> Can I make the VGA output the default globaly?
I have some board from ASRock Industrial with VGA and LVDS outputs.
There is a BIOS settings for my model where I can choose what to
enable and what will be the primary. When I let both outputs enabled,
the BIOS messages appears only on the primary
> Another interesting thread.
Not at all. Hollywood's movies are providing much interesting ideas
about human trying to obtain immortality.
Also midnight psy therapy threads are not very interesting.
> I still have gsysupgrade lying around somewhere. It's a gtk app. I never
> made a port for it because I got sidetracked rewriting it to use qt.
> It isn't written in rust? The shame.
Make it Rust or GTK based, but please include the support for http, it
is more convenient to do it remotely usi
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 7:09 PM Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 09:17:58PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is there any recent major change in base packages or pkg_add?
> > I ask because the pkg_add -vV is slower than usual at e
Hello,
Is there any recent major change in base packages or pkg_add?
I ask because the pkg_add -vV is slower than usual at each package,
most of the time spent in Extracting ... phase.
I use amd64 recent snapshot. I checked my disk and https downloads,
they are fine.
Thank you.
I got the system freeze from the previous email again.
I don't know what "debug" commands to run, please point me in the
right direction.
Thank you.
Not a Ryzen 9, but an AMD.
I installed the snapshot, and started playing endless-sky from
packages. Went away and we i came back, the game was not responsive
anymore. Switched to console with Alt+Ctrl+F2, logged in as an user
and used top command. endless-sky was listed as sleep / kqread. Logged
o
Gustavo Rios wrote:
> What is the best supported servers by OpenBSD ?
The older, the better!
Take the oldest machine that will suit your needs.
If it old enough, then someone:
o released some (in)complete documentation
o was pissed enough to start writing drivers and code for it
o noticed bugs a
On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 11:30 AM Martin Schröder wrote:
> https://www.pcengines.ch/eol.htm
> The end is near for APUs :-(
It may be the end for open/free source as we know it.
The market is moving to ARM for hardware. As for the software, Linux
is preferred - a lot of code, a lot of options
> I have a fairly good idea of what presentation or possibly even journal
> article you read and are > still taking as gospel truth. It was a side by
> side benchmarking thing, wasn't it?
The @misc has a lot of messages about single threaded subject. Even
some well know posters have said cryst
i don't see why you had to hijack the thread and scare people away ...
for poor people's sake, not all of us are "kernel experts", "C
veterans", "admins" "sysops" or what else does exists in these days...
tired of this mess, i understand there are hard days but come on...
Hello,
Just a post for the users: since my computer refused to boot anymore
in UEFI mode after install from snapshots, but it was able to do it
from previous snapshots, i switched to Legacy BIOS and used it like
that. I tested with Debian in UEFI mode and it was fine. I asked on
the misc@, i conta
Hello,
I am trying to figure out a problem with my UEFI boot not working
anymore using snapshots. I am able to UEFI boot from USB install disk,
but at first boot from the main disk the sequence stops at efi0 entry.
Can someone, please, explain why efi0 is not detected on boot from the
USB install
I was trying to install OpenBSD-current from snapshots, UEFI mode boot
and GPT disk - the install went fine, but the boot after installation
remains stuck at efi0 entry listing. I have to use the switch off
button to exit from this.
The install and boot works if I use Legacy mode boot with MBR disk
Hello,
I did an OpenBSD-current installation from snapshots on a computer I
use to run OpenBSD a few months ago. I used UEFI boot with GPT disk
format since it was working fine in the past. I was able to boot the
installer, the setup completed fine, but the boot process was stuck at
efi0: device e
Courtney, I will try to suggest something.
First, I was having problems in the past with Firefox. I use to let
mpv play in the background ( a stream of internet radio) and the sound
has stuttering and pauses whenever Firefox loaded some pages. I was
told to use sndio for mpv as an option with ao=s
> With your email now however the original question remains: Does OpenBSD
> actually support hardware accelerated video decoding today?
General answer: NO.
A more detailed answer is like this: there is a talk on the list about
libvaapi (if i recall correctly) implementation for intel only. It wa
> [...] I have not had time to upgrade any of my APU systems to anything newer
> than 6.8, so I
> cannot personally attest that mSATA definitely works in 6.9+
This is one reason that incompatibilities sleeps thru: people run old
versions of software, the new ones don't reach the specific hardware
> ... how to rectify it is beyond my capabilities as a new OpenBSD user.
First of all, there is nothing to rectify. All was done to act like
this and to serve a specific purpose. Much work and developers'
efforts were poured into this, again with a specific great purpose (
hint: security related).
> My problem is it does not boot with this mSATA disk in.
Can you try this after a dd if=/dev/zero for the first part of the
disk (i.e. 100Mb) ?
For the late comers to the party, see [1].
[1] https://www.hertzbleed.com/
> Indeed, the disk is hot;
Out of curiosity, what happens if you run that dd again when the disk is hot?
Is the transfer running at that high speed? Is it stuck to the throttled speed?
Thanks
> could be thermals.
Or it could be some kind of cache total miss. I find it strange to
overheat a storage after 4GB of transfers. Just saying.
Thank you.
> ... mg will use a tab for indentation.
Use something to replace every TAB occurrence in the source code with
8 spaces sequence. Well, not every TAB maybe?
[ ... ]
Just my user feedback, and only if it is wanted: I was not able to
understand a damn thing from all the messages about this change.
As an user, the "update" thing was always a voodoo for me. Ironically,
the FAQ has exactly 3 (three) lines of text, one is the command itself
(no offense int
The idea of changing the OS implementation in order to suit an
internet browser is hilarious at least. The browsers developers are
not interested in proper implementation and inbreed of browser with OS
internals, no! All that matters is to make something work for the
browser itself.
I am not able
Hello,
I want to export XDG_CACHE_HOME variable used by Xorg.
What is the best place (file or ?) to export this variable?
I remember i used some file to export a long time ago PS1 variable.
Should I use ~/.login file or is it a better way to export this xorg variable?
OpenBSD amd64 here, snapsho
This short movie explains everything for the users:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BmhHyyzh9o
> ... just a rant ...
This is not the list you are looking for. Move along, please.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BmhHyyzh9o
> what did you do exactly? Did you remount / ?
I have to use # mount -uw /
Without / it is against my initial purpose.
Solved.
On Wed, May 4, 2022, 20:55 Otto Moerbeek wrote:
>
> what did you do exactly? Did you remount / ?
>
I started with a fresh install of snapshots for amd64.
Original /etc/fstab:
0a4b310a4a014e04.b none swap sw
0a4b310a4a014e04.a / ffs rw 1 1
0a4b310a4a014e04.l /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
0a4b310
Hello,
I want to map /tmp as a mfs type. I did this in my /etc/fstab:
0a4b310a4a014e04.b none swap sw
0a4b310a4a014e04.a / ffs rw 1 1
0a4b310a4a014e04.l /home ffs rw,nodev,nosuid 1 2
swap /tmp mfs rw,nodev,nosuid,-s=1g 0 0
0a4b310a4a014e04.f /usr ffs rw,nodev 1 2
0a4b310a4a014e04.g /usr/X11R6 ffs
> It doesn't work under Win7, I just check...
Fried soundcard?
And you have a lot of disks too, amazing ...
OpenBSD detected 3 sound cards for you. From what I recall, the one on
the HDMI video output (associated to your video card) is not
supported, so no sound there.
Maybe the sound goes to your envy0, ESI Julia sound card. Could you
check with some phones or speakers?
As for the Realtek one, it looks
On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 11:17 PM Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
>
> On Sun, May 01, 2022 at 11:06:15PM +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
> > On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 9:05 PM Antoine Jacoutot
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2022-05-01 at 20:51 +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
>
On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 9:05 PM Antoine Jacoutot wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2022-05-01 at 20:51 +0300, Mihai Popescu wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I tried to enable gnome or kde after install in an openbsd snapshot for
> > amd64.
> > Last time (some time ago) I know
Hello,
I tried to enable gnome or kde after install in an openbsd snapshot for amd64.
Last time (some time ago) I know for sure there were some pkg-readmes
for both gnome and kde start. I can't find them now, I have some
readmes in the directory, but not for gnome nor kde.
Is there some other way
Hello,
During my recent experimentation with ssd and OpenBSD, I came to a
point where the OpenBSD amd64 snapshot install was not able to boot
from ssd installed and booted in UEFI mode.
Since I was able to prior use this ssd in this configuration, I
started to analyze and check more in BIOS and ss
$ time dd if=/dev/zero of=test10g.dat bs=1m count=10240 conv=fsync
10240+0 records in
10240+0 records out
10737418240 bytes transferred in 260.289 secs (41251827 bytes/sec)
4m20.32s real 0m00.01s user 0m17.70s system
$ time dd if=/dev/zero of=test10g.dat bs=1m count=10240 conv=fsync
10
Hello,
I use OpenBSD amd64 snapshots on the following dmesg hardware.
The download rate on a browser was slow and I figured out with some
memory mapped partition that disk transfer rate was slow.
I can bear this since I'm not into large file transfer business. But
here is another interesting fact:
> It lowers my confidence in Vultr as a reliable OpenBSD host.
Very well, it will match the confidence of running OpenBSD on a virtual machine.
Thank you for your time. It took me some tests and thinking to figure
out i should try the ram disk/partition/directory/whatever. Just
curios, how many users are using this for chromium?
> Just as with a disk/network filesystem, you can mount it at whatever
> directory you like. So directly over /
> swap /tmp mfs rw,nodev,nosuid,-s=1g 0 0
for some reason, xenodm is not displayed and i am not able to login ...
Hello,
Since my computer is struggling with chromium and I suspect it's the
disk access being too slow, I want to map the directory accessed by
chromium ( i think it is ~/.cache) into the memory.
Looking in the man, i spotted rd, but i think i need to setup this in
the kernel.
The next choice is
try a...@openbsd.org list
and do some reading first
Well, I am very surprised to see an email going into OpenBSD vs all on
the list, and even more surprised to see it's author it a good veteran
of OpenBSD.
But I guess things change with time ...
Yes, trying multiboot without backups is a real problem calling. Most
of the email is pure hype. Not a s
> Pure access points are just network bridges ...
Most AP I encountered were linux based with web servers for
configuration access.
Do you know if there is an AP model with minimal firmware to do that bridging?
If so, can you post some models, please?
Thank you.
Hello,
I have some new behavior of cwm lately: if i start chromium with a
window at 0:0 and maximized, it increments the base position with +1,
so that the following positions are +1:+1, +2:+2, etc.
I was using cwm with chromium a lot and the windows was always fixed
at 0:0, no matter what.
Is thi
Hello
I am using OpenBSD current amd64, recent snapshots. I have a second
AMD architecture where I experience the following from time to time (I
don't know yet how to trigger this): the sound of whatever i play
(mostly web youtube) is heard both in headphones and computer internal
speaker. I can f
Try arm@
There is more information
On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 8:46 AM Janne Johansson wrote:
>
> Den sön 6 mars 2022 kl 16:41 skrev Mihai Popescu :
> >
> > Since this thread is moving slowly in another direction, let me
>
> True
>
> > reiterate my situation again: I am running a browser (mostly chr
Since this thread is moving slowly in another direction, let me
reiterate my situation again: I am running a browser (mostly chromium)
and the computer slows down on downloads. Since I've checked the
downloads rates, I observed they are slow than my maximum 500Mbps for
the line.
I can reach 320Mbps
> > Besides this, are my values too low or just the expected ones?
>
> It seems the throughput is bad. The small IO test showed good numbers
> for iops, but the second test (and I guess other people's suggestion
> to try dd from /dev/zero) will show that you seem to have a "thin
> wire" from the dr
> https://openports.pl/path/benchmarks/fio
> To test perf on many small IO (measuring iops basically) run:
>
> fio --name=random-write --rw=write --bs=4k --numjobs=2 --size=1g
> --iodepth=16 --runtime=60 --time_based --end_fsync=1
fio-3.26
Starting 2 threads
Jobs: 2 (f=2): [F(2)][100.0%][w=6502KiB
On Thu, Mar 3, 2022 at 3:08 PM Jan Klemkow wrote:
>
> On Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 02:59:33PM +0200, Mihai Popescu wrote:
> > 2. Can you suggest a sane disk I/O benchmark, writing from RAM to disk
> > (i.e. cp /dev/null )?
>
> /dev/null will act as an empty file. you have
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