The latest version of gcc is more picky about global variables resulting in
this bug report for my portable version of mg:
https://github.com/hboetes/mg/issues/12
To which Ulrich Müller created a pull request which fixed the problem:
https://github.com/hboetes/mg/pull/13/files
Is this worth a
Hi there,
I noticed patch #8 was already more than 2 days late from the mirror I
was using. To find out which servers are more or less up to date I
wrote a little script and here is the output.
This is of course a snapshot in time, on the other hand I hope this
list will benefit the community, ei
Even though I don't agree with you -- since the man threatened me
with violence after a very thoughtful remark: On the matter of
GPL/BSD license preference I suggested to respect each others
opinion instead of verbally insulting one another. -- I do
appreciate your attempt to have a sane conversati
Joachim Schipper wrote:
> The OpenBSD culture is not one of HOWTOs. You'll have to read
> the man pages and FAQ to get the information, I'm afraid.
The FAQ is just another word for HOWTOs.
# Han
Chris Bennett wrote:
> You people have no sense of where security really lies at!
> If you don't remove the hard drive, there is no security at all!
I simply put my servers into armored concrete. After that I dump
them somewhere in the middle of the ocean where the level is at
least 3 km. That's h
Rod Whitworth wrote:
> *** NOTE *** Please DO NOT CC me. I subscribed to the list.
> Mail to the sender address that does not originate at the list server is
> tarpitted. The reply-to: address is provided for those who feel compelled to
> reply off list. Thankyou.
You're a smart fellow, you'll
Christopher Zimmermann wrote:
> I'm missing the http://linux.die.net/man/1/rename command in
> OpenBSD.
Ehm.
~% uname -a
Linux marsupilami 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:02:15 UTC 2009
x86_64 GNU/Linux
~% which rename
/usr/bin/rename
~% file /usr/bin/rename
/usr/bin
I just compiled mg statically and put it in /bin, which is rather
simple:
Add 'LDFLAGS+=-static' somewhere in the makefile with your
favourite editor. And then run:
$ make
$ strip mg
$ ldd mg
$ ls -l mg
$ sudo install mg /bin/mg
400kb! that barely larger than a dynamic vi :-)
# Han
David Taveras wrote:
> Can PF be programmed to block skype? Provided we have port 80
> and 443 Opened to the world, and perhaps DNS port too... skype
> finds any open port to connect to.
I don't think so. But if you install snort you can. Google for
snort and skype and you'll find quite a few dece
Brad Tilley wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:45 PM, John Cosimano
> wrote:
> > i seem to remember a thread here on misc@ that was meant to be a tmux
> > guide for experienced screen users.
>
> One thing that screen got right is the A key. It's a lot closer
> to Ctrl than B. So far, key proximit
on't see it.
>
> Can you point out what I am doing wrong?
Yes, you misread me.
> On Tue, Oct 06, 2009 at 09:28:27PM +0200, Han Boetes wrote:
> > Alfredo Perez wrote:
> > > Is there a way to start vsftpd at boot time?
> >
> > Sure, add an entry for it in
Alfredo Perez wrote:
> Is there a way to start vsftpd at boot time?
Sure, add an entry for it in /etc/rc.local
# Han
Milan Prihoda wrote:
> I have ThinkPad R61 and I have no idea, how to get middle mouse
> button to work with 4.5/i386.
> When I try to use xev only left (=1) and right (=3) mouse button respond.
It's emulated by clicking both the left and right mouse button
simultaneously.
# Han
Brian Whalen wrote:
> When one enters cvs get commands, like cvs get src, ports, or
> xenocara, is one getting stable or current versions of these?
-current
> how can one tell?
~% cat /usr/src/CVS/Tag
TOPENBSD_4_5
Of course this is all described in detail in the cvs manpage.
# Han
Daniel Bolgheroni wrote:
> just noticed the status bar of tmux gone with the latest
> snapshot. I didn't followed the cvs entries for a couple of
> days. Is this a normal behaviour?
Works fine here. Are you sure you ran "make depend all" or "make
clean all"? Otherwises changes in tmux.h won't prop
Woodchuck wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 4:44 AM, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> > You do not say which version of OpenBSD you are running. I
> > tried your example on current (amd64 and i386) and 4.5 (amd64)
> > and did get the proper results.
>
> 4.2 I've been too cowardly to upgrade.
It's not that h
mehma sarja wrote:
> Does OpenBSD have the camcontrol package? If so, try
>
> camcontrol defects sd0 -f phys -p
> camcontrol defects sd0 -f phys -g
~% cat /usr/ports/sysutils/smartmontools/pkg/DESCR
The smartmontools package contains two utility programs (smartctl and
smartd) to control and monito
Daniel Barowy wrote:
> On Wed, 15 Jul 2009, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> >
> > It is stuff that isn't on root's path.
>
> [snip]
> But why not?
Because you never have to execute any of those programs
manually. They are just programs which are executed by other
programs. Just like libraries are used by o
Ricardo Augusto de Souza wrote:
> I sent an email to misc few months ago.
> It is a private content.
> I found it at http://archive.netbsd.se/?ml=openbsd-misc&a=2009-05&t=10605255
> I do need to remove it.
Actually it's also mirrored at various other locations and there
isn't anything you can do
Ted Unangst wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 11:38 PM, frantisek holop wrote:
> > hmm, on Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 09:57:48PM -0500, neal hogan said that
> > > On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 02:15:33AM +, Wayne M. Scace wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > What exactly is tmux?
> > >
> > > man tm
Incase you need to migrate your data to another disk I wrote this
HOWTO:
http://www.han.dds.nl/documents/hd-migration
Might be useful.
# Han
I'd like to suggest using netboot. So you need only one server to
maintain and for the rest all you have to do is restart services
or reboot the rest.
# Han
Felipe Alfaro Solana wrote:
> May I ask what's the reason behind having sendmail be the
> default MTA in OpenBSD? Why not switching to something that is
> easier to configure like Postfix or EXIM?
Sure you may ask, just like a lot of other people have asked
before. Check the mailinglist archives.
Daniel Ouellet wrote:
> In a few years, I guess Gates will want to license my toilet
> paper too for one time use!
I think some CEO just got a splendid idea.
Next time think before you post something on the internet!
# Han
To quote someone a lot smarter than me:
Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but
never to show their absence! -- Edsger Dijkstra, [1972]
That should answer your question.
# Han
Paul Irofti wrote:
> Hello Mr. Troll, thanks for flaming by. Have a good day!
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by
stupidity.
# Han
I recommend you switch to:
cache_dir aufs xxx yyy
# Han
Ed Ahlsen-Girard wrote:
> I'm trying to automate getting the sets and source for running
> -current.
Incase you don't want to reinvent the wheel:
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/software/OpenBSD-binary-upgrade/
# Han
David,
Would you be able to understand what this code does if it was
written like this:
if [ "$sendmail_flags" != NO ] && [ -s /etc/mailer.conf ]; then
echo -n ' sendmail'
/usr/sbin/sendmail $sendmail_flags > /dev/null 2>&1 &
fi
# Han
Gilles Chehade wrote:
> [snip]
> ...and in OpenBSD land you better have a GOOD reason to have an
> uptime longer than two releases.
> [snip]
> Gilles,
> proud to never exceed 200 days of uptime
Speaking of which... I think I have a pretty good reason to bring
down my uptime very shortly. YAY!
~%
Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > http://bhami.com/rosetta.html
>
> As always, it is a shame that those types of pages have so many
> errors.
>
> [snip: examples]
> It is just sad.
It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
# Han
Morton Harrow wrote:
> Let me first introduce myself. My name is Morton Harrow, senior
> GNU/Linux consultant in the London metropolitan area. I have
> been around in the Open Source world since the early
> beginning. I am very happy with the spirit and efforts of the
> Free Software Foundation (FS
Ed Ahlsen-Girard wrote:
> I'm curious as to the 'modal' laptop that the developers use -
> that would probably be a good steer for what to buy.
When I was at the latest eurobsdcon I noticed that all laptops
were either macbooks or lenovos.
# Han
Darrin Chandler wrote:
> # This \
> Thus \
> that \
> other
Clearly this is the intuitive way that should work, since all
other languages I know of parse like this.
If you want to disable multiple lines you have to comment them all
out. Use a decent editor if you think that is much of
Nick Holland wrote:
> The biggest reasons to do this are because you have too much
> time on your hands, and you want to impress people by having
> things break, then you swoop in to rescue everyone from your
> fabricated disaster.
Actually I think most people do it because you are tought to do so
Yes but C is written in gcc which is GNU licensed and pkg_utils
are written in perl which is a much more libaral language. I
really start wondering why the whole of OpenBSD is not rewritten
in perl!
# Han
Raimo Niskanen wrote:
> I am writing a script that would be nice to be able to run
> with only the root partition mounted, and it works fine
> except that I find no way to read .gz compressed
> files without e.g /usr/bin/zcat.
You can do it with something like this in single user mode:
# mount /u
Karel Kulhavy wrote:
> I have made an OpenBSD promotion poster.
>
> http://images.twibright.com/tns/21a8.html
Nice! :-)
# Han
Ik zal er niet bij zijn dit jaar, maar ik wens je wel veel
plezier. :-)
Groetjes aan Tilly. ;-)
Wim Vandeputte wrote:
> like each year we'll be present at the FOSDEM event in Brussels, it's
> completely free entrance, plenty of interesting things to see,
> even a BSD devroom with presenations
>
>
Jason Dixon wrote:
> Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.10 Generic January 2005
> -bash-3.00$ grep -r foo *
> grep: illegal option -- r
> Usage: grep -hblcnsviw pattern file . . .
You are not using the default shell. :-)
The ksh implementation that comes with solaris is horrible indeed.
# Han
Please report bugs to libtorrent/rtorrent to the rtorrent
website. He is more than willing to resolve bugs.
As a matter of fact the main developer has a shell on my machine
and regularly testbuilds before releasing stuff to ensure it
builds out of the box on OpenBSD.
~% sudo grep rak /var/log/ssh
Lies
chefren wrote:
> ... Richard Stallman stopped [coding] doing so long time ago...
> B) Richard Stallman puts users first, =like you!=, Richard Stallman
>=believes= users are more important than coders so coders should be
>enslaved by the users. Which is plain STUPID since without code
Mayuresh Kathe wrote:
> NOTE: No intention to behave like a troll.
Ha! Good you say so. Now I am absolutely sure you are trolling.
# Han
Michael wrote:
> I am looking for sh/ksh replacement for the following bash command:
>
> $ X="abcdefghi"
> $ echo ${X:0:2}
> ab
cut(1)
# Han
Alexey Vatchenko wrote:
> Any chance to export via NFS filesystem mounted using NFS?
>
> What i need to accomplish is the following:
> NFS server --> pf-enabled gateway < NFS client
I'd set up a vpn.
# Han
Most secure goes a long way. I run firefox on a sepperate user
account. I doubt it's the most secure solution but it sure is
quite a bit more secure, and I'm quite sure you really don't want
to the most secure solution. :-)
http://www.xs4all.nl/~hanb/documents/firefox_for_paranoid_people
# Han
Joco Salvatti wrote:
> Does exist the wpa_supplicant package with wireless network support?
Check the archives of this mailinglist.
# Han
Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Yes, and you are being the usual slimy hypocritical asshole.
...
> You treat these issues different because you are a hypocrite.
...
> In honour of your hypocrisy.
...
> How convenient for your hypocrisy.
...
> It is lying, and it is hypocrisy.
Third time I've said that. I'l
Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Yet on Richard's side of this fence, emacs and gcc _directly
> include_ code which lets users use those two pieces of software
> on commercial operating systems.
He facilitates using something good on something bad, which helps
end users realize that open source products can
The most logical step to me seems to be readding qmail and other
DJB tools to ports.
# Han
Piet Slaghekke wrote:
> I like to filter my openBSD emails and the only way I can do it
> is if everyone send their email with misc@openBSD.org in the "
> To " field.
>
> Please send email To misc@openBSD.org and do not CC it to this
> address.
>
> Thanks!
I've been struggeling with this as well,
Vincent GROSS wrote:
> there seem to be a lil' problem with
> /usr/src/usr/sbin/dhcpd/options.c. the following patch
> highlights two weirds constructs inside the file, one in the
> header, the other one in the MMS checking code.
>
> --- /usr/src/usr.sbin/dhcpd/options.c Sat Nov 10 04:53:05 2007
Jake Conk wrote:
> I rebooted my server and now I get this error when I try to ssh:
>
> -bash: can't load library 'libintl.so.3.0'
> Connection to 192.168.10.2 closed.
>
> Why can't it load libintl? What causes this with a simple
> reboot?
You forgot to set shlib_dirs in /etc/rc.conf.local
Boot w
Brian Candler wrote:
> I would argue that OpenBSD is probably the least "free" of all
> the free Unix options out there. Why?
>
> * You cannot download an ISO image and burn it yourself.
> * If you buy a CD-ROM, you cannot legally make copies to give to
> your friends, your school etc.
You mix u
Alexander Hall wrote:
> The problem is that nfs shares does not traverse file system
> mount points once initialized. Since nfs probably was started
> prior to mounting the msdos partition (with the noauto option in
> /etc/fstab), nfs would only share the contents of the mount
> point directory its
Well that's not so hard...
~/.tmp% ls -la
total 2190
drwx-- 3 han users512 Sep 23 21:19 .
drwx-- 18 han users 1536 Sep 23 21:20 ..
-rwxr-xr-x 1 han users 908581 Sep 7 18:55 configure
-rwxr-xr-x 1 han users 908228 Sep 7 18:51 configure.orig
-rw-r--r-- 1 han users596 Sep
Pieter Verberne wrote:
> How do I rename multiple files at once? I want to rename a list
> of files like:
>
> file.jpg
> file1.jpg
> file_2.jpg
>
> to:
>
> file_thumb.jpg
> file1_thumb.jpg
> file_2_thumb.jpg
for i in *.jpg; do
echo mv $i ${i%.jpg}_thumb.jpg
done
# Han
smonek wrote:
> How to make screenshot under console?
With screen you can make screenshot. They're called hardcopies.
# Han
Here is the full dmesg output.
I couldn't find the exact commands for ddb someone requested on
this list, but I tried trace and ps. If you require specific
commands please let me know and I'll reproduce.
This is still the same machine as the last time.
figured
cpu0 at mainbus0
pci0 at mainbus0
Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2007/05/30 21:47, Han Boetes wrote:
> > Perhaps a timestamp of the exact moment the build started so
> > you can.
> >
> > cvs -qz3 update -D 'timestamp'
> >
> > To get exactly the same source.
>
> ever noticed so
Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> Besides, snapshots often contain uncommitted tweaks, so a cvs
> tag would not even do the job for you.
Perhaps a timestamp of the exact moment the build started so you
can.
cvs -qz3 update -D 'timestamp'
To get exactly the same source. I don't know well this is
possible,
Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote:
> i have tried han boetes' binary upgrade script but find
> mergemaster to be very cumbersome in light of the
> already-supplied upgrade patch.
You must be using a very old version. It now uses mergeslave which
creates a patch from the old and new etc tarbal
Kian Mohageri wrote:
> For my clarification, are we talking about "stealth mode" as in
> dropping everything (including pings) from untrusted hosts, or
> the default block-policy (drop vs. return)?
The only time when `dropping everything' is useful is when you are
under a ddos to prevent load on t
Chris Cappuccio wrote:
> Han Boetes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Chris Cappuccio wrote:
> > > You have both IDE disks on the same IDE channel which is
> > > problematic. Set both IDE disks to 'master' and put them on
> > > separate IDE channels.
&g
Chris Cappuccio wrote:
> You have both IDE disks on the same IDE channel which is
> problematic. Set both IDE disks to 'master' and put them on
> separate IDE channels.
Cheers, what a difference!
Not a bug, eey?
OpenBSD 4.1-current (GENERIC) #5: Sun Apr 22 01:44:59 MDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED
Marc Balmer wrote:
> * Han Boetes wrote:
> > Artur Grabowski wrote:
> > > Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > I read my logs, I posted this before, I politely asked. I
> > > > didn't get an answer.
> > > >
> > > &
OK, just read my dmesg and the ddb output is still in there. What
a nifty feature. :-)
ddb> sleep_finish(e8a08cc8,8,e8a08ce0,d0336e92,e8a08cc8) at sleep_finish+0x38
sleep_finish(e8a08cc8,1,8,d0698380,0) at sleep_finish+0x38
tsleep(d766d1dc,8,d0698380,0) at tsleep+0x7a
lockmgr(d766d1dc,7,0,d032f3b7
Marc Balmer wrote:
> * Han Boetes wrote:
> > Next time I'll remember I first have to piss you off before I
> > get an answer.
>
> no han, you don't get it right. It's "turn your brain on, then activate
> your mouth". Not the other way round... ;)
Pedro Martelletto wrote:
> If you can still reproduce the problem with the latest snapshot,
> please break into ddb, use 'ps' to see the PID of the 'reboot'
> process, and get us the output of 'tr /p 0t '.
Here it is, I took a photo so the transscript may contain errors.
ddb> tr /p 0t1847
sleep
Artur Grabowski wrote:
> Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I read my logs, I posted this before, I politely asked. I
> > didn't get an answer.
> >
> > Next time I'll remember I first have to piss you off before I
> > get an answer.
>
&
Artur Grabowski wrote:
> You are asking for a software soultion to a hardware problem.
> The system is desperately trying to write out blocks to your
> busted disk and, yes, it's taking a lot of time because it's
> patiently retrying and retrying and retrying. How very
> surprising.
>
> You might
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Apr 2007, Han Boetes wrote:
> > Of course I crash, I crash at every reboot, I got the problem
> > where the rebooting proces gets stuck at `syncing disks' after
> > which I have to m-c-ESC and then boot sync.
> >
> > I ha
Miod Vallat wrote:
> > Of course I crash, I crash at every reboot, I got the problem
> > where the rebooting proces gets stuck at `syncing disks' after
> > which I have to m-c-ESC and then boot sync.
> >
> > I have this on a i386 and I met someone on #openbsd who had it on
> > a sparc.
> >
> > When
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> If you have been crashing during this period, I advise you to
> make sure fsck_ffs is current, boot to single user mode and then
> force a check of all your filesystems.
Of course I crash, I crash at every reboot, I got the problem
where the rebooting proces gets stuck at `s
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> On Sat, 21 Apr 2007, Han Boetes wrote:
> > Default User wrote:
> > > if so, why not install with no root account by default?
> >
> > It isn't so. :-)
> >
> > But if you want it, nothing will stop you from setting up like you
Default User wrote:
> is a root account really necessary?
No.
> wouldn't a system with no root account, where all maintenance is
> done as sudo, be more secure?
No. It all depends on what you want and what your situation is.
> if so, why not install with no root account by default?
It isn't
Hi,
Try this URL:
http://www.google.nl/search?q=openbsd+binary+upgrade
# Han
Kjell Wooding wrote:
>
> Mwa-ha-ha
OK you got me! It was a lot of work for a 4-1 joke.
Congratulations. :-)
# Han
Hi Kjell,
I just tried your patch and this happened:
m-x vi-mode
i
Too many modes
I don't know much about vi but that looks odd.
# Han
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> perhaps its worth Han changing his site to avoid leading people
> down the garden path, now we have a port in place.
Yes, done.
# Han
Bob Beck wrote:
> Hate to tell you this, but Canada is not the United States.
Not that long anymore.
http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html
# Han
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> I see the problem. The problem occurs if top bigrams contain spaces.
> These are not handled correctly by awk. We'll have to use a field
> separator that can not be in a bigram. A tab is well suited, AFAKS.
>
> Try this.
[snip: patch]
% sudo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb --se
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> Hmm, can you instrument /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb with a
>
> tee /tmp/myflist |
>
> on line 101 to see the filelist it actualy builds?
Sure, I just did that and examined /tmp/myflist and it looks
perfectly normal.
# Han
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> The problem is here that the amount of data is too little to build a
> complete bigram table. The situation is detected by the diff below.
>
> Did you also experience problems when indexing more files?
Yes. It's the same error as I get with the complete filesystem.
> Index:
Marc Balmer wrote:
> Han Boetes wrote:
> > To make debugging that a bit easier I did the following:
> >
> > sudo /usr/libexec/locate.updatedb
> > --searchpath=/mnt/mp3/Klassiek/Schoenberg/PelleasundMelisande
> >
> > which also reproduces the bug.
>
&g
Hi,
Thanks for your suggestions. Here is what I found. Please let me
know if you need more information.
This error happens only with the /mnt/mp3 filesystem. Just to make
sure it was not a filesystem inconsistency I fsck'ed it. It turned
out to be fine.
This is what mount returns:
/dev/wd1a on /
I really don't care what you do. Why do you care what I do?
Paul de Weerd wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 03:22:15AM +0100, Han Boetes wrote:
> | Peter Hessler wrote:
> | > I cannot reproduce this bug on -current/macppc. What platform,
> | > and what version of O
Bryan Irvine wrote:
> > As the errormessage suggests there is a character in a
> > filename somewhere on my filesystem which updatedb doesn't
> > dig.
> >
> > I just can't find that file.
>
> IIRC there used to be a bug with files that had a % char in the
> name.
Yes I found that report.
> Try us
Peter Hessler wrote:
> I cannot reproduce this bug on -current/macppc. What platform,
> and what version of OpenBSD?
As the errormessage suggests there is a character in a filename
somewhere on my filesystem which updatedb doesn't dig.
I just can't find that file.
# Han
Matthias Kilian wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 14, 2007 at 12:38:52AM +0059, Han Boetes wrote:
> > > This is probably not a bug. You locate database is likely
> > > corrupted, like the error message says.
> >
> > OK, I'll install an alternative locate implementation.
&g
Otto Moerbeek wrote:
> On Tue, 13 Mar 2007, Han Boetes wrote:
> > I am discussing a bug which I don't know how to solve. This
> > really belongs in tech@
>
> This is probably not a bug. You locate database is likely
> corrupted, like the error message says.
OK, I
I am discussing a bug which I don't know how to solve. This really
belongs in tech@
And your questions are irrelevant.
Paul de Weerd wrote:
> [moving to misc@, where this sort of problems belong]
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 06:42:52PM +0059, Han Boetes wrote:
> | Hi,
> |
&g
Is this an idea?
http://www.tritium.co.uk/
# Han
Thorsten Glaser already made a portable version of the OpenBSD
version of ksh, which compiles on lots of platforms and works
great.
http://www.mirbsd.org/?mksh
# Han
Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote:
> i have seen a number of spammer outfits doing this: following
> the RFC and retrying until the spam gets though and they're
> whitelisted, then they're free to push crap through. any
> thoughts on how to best combat this behavior besides
> spamassassin + amavisd (i.e. was
Wim Vandeputte wrote:
> this weekend in Brussels at the ULB Solbosh campus there is once
> again the FOSDEM conference. You can found our OpenBSD/OpenSSH
> booth in the hallway at the usual place.
I thought you already founded that booth...
> Matthieu will give a talk on Xenocara in the X.Org de
Matthew R. Dempsky wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 12:51:36PM +0100, Han Boetes wrote:
> > Most GPL fans don't want this deal at all.
>
> Real GPL fans appear to be an increasingly diminishing subset of
> Linux users today though. They're being supplanted by users w
Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:06:36AM +0100, Stephan A. Rickauer wrote:
> > You seem to be happy with signing NDAs. If the result is a
> > readable and understandable GPL'ed driver, companies will be
> > even less motivated to release programming documentation. This
> > will lead to a
Artur Grabowski wrote:
> Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Which is exactly what the GPL people want since that's the whole
> > > point of the license. Otherwise they wouldn't be using the
> > > GPL. Duh.
> >
> > Nah, RMS doesn
mickey wrote:
> oh come fucking on!
> do not start this bsd vs gpl crap again!
On the contrary, this is BSD united with GPL crap. :-)
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