Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-13 Thread Chris Kuethe
On 2/13/06, Bruno Carnazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to know if someone tried to build a desktop environment on > OpenBSD/i386. I think to rich desktop like Gnome or KDE. Is it hard ? > What's your feedback ? Add me to the list of satisfied desktop users. Both my worksta

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Damien Miller
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Tony Sterrett wrote: > I'm not sure I'd do it in that way. I'm thinking if BPF provided stateful > inspection is would be > more useful. Asking for stateful inspection in bpf(4) is like wanting a carburettor for a pushbike. You might be able to shoehorn it in there, but it wo

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 06:32:53PM -0800, Ted Unangst wrote: > > > find ./ -type f -print | xargs -i rm -f > > > Instead of > > > rm -f $(find ./ -type f -print) > > > > Because that will fail when there are too many arguments, and will > > probably break on filenames with spaces (use xargs -0 for

Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-13 Thread Andreas Bihlmaier
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 12:35:36AM -0500, Bill wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:16:07 +0400 > Bruno Carnazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake: > > > Hi all, > > > > I'd like to know if someone tried to build a desktop environment on > > OpenBSD/i386. I think to rich desktop like Gnome or KDE. Is it har

Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-13 Thread Bill
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:16:07 +0400 Bruno Carnazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake: > Hi all, > > I'd like to know if someone tried to build a desktop environment on > OpenBSD/i386. I think to rich desktop like Gnome or KDE. Is it hard ? > What's your feedback ? > > Best regards, > > Bruno. > If y

Re: OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-13 Thread Greg Thomas
On 2/13/06, Bruno Carnazzi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > > I'd like to know if someone tried to build a desktop environment on > OpenBSD/i386. I think to rich desktop like Gnome or KDE. Is it hard ? > What's your feedback ? > I use WindowMaker on this OpenBSD laptop and couldn't be happ

OpenBSD for a desktop environment ?

2006-02-13 Thread Bruno Carnazzi
Hi all, I'd like to know if someone tried to build a desktop environment on OpenBSD/i386. I think to rich desktop like Gnome or KDE. Is it hard ? What's your feedback ? Best regards, Bruno.

Linux emulation on OpenBSD/i386 3.8 with bsd.mp

2006-02-13 Thread Bruno Carnazzi
Hi all, Refering to : http://www.bsdforums.org/forums/archive/index.php/t-29968.html, I've tried to install the IBM Tivoli Storage Manager Linux client v5.2.2 on OpenBSD/i386 3.8 through linux emulation. It behaves normally, but I can't backup with the '-subdir=yes' option, it generates a core d

OpenBSD 3.9-beta : pf_test: pf_get_mtag returned NULL

2006-02-13 Thread Bruno Carnazzi
Hi all, I've tried an OpenBSD/i386 3.9-beta snapshots 2 weeks ago. It worked perfectly until now that I have build an AP with it, with an Nintendo USB connector. 2 times, pf died and vomit continuously things like : Feb 11 21:31:30 puffy /bsd: pf_test: pf_get_mtag returned NULL Feb 11 21:31:30

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Tony Sterrett
On Feb 13, 2006, at 5:16 PM, Ted Unangst wrote: On 2/13/06, Tony Sterrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm looking at the tradeoff of porting bpf with states from linux to OpenBSD from linux. Daniel Hartmeier in Design and Performance of the "OpenBSD Stateful Packet Filter (pf)" says that pf is

Re: Interface ranges in pf.conf (i.e. tun[0-10])

2006-02-13 Thread yary
On 2/13/06, yary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Now, can one use a group name to set up a pool? eg: > rdr on $ext_if proto tcp from any to any port 80 { httpd_ifs_group } > round-robin just read the referenced post from Henning- looks like my answer is "yes"!

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Diana Eichert
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Jason Crawford wrote: SNIP > He couldn't even figure out how to find the applications that use bpf, > so I think figuring out all the features in a utility might be out of > his grasp... > > Jason hence my original suggestion, minus my "|" miscue of course.

Re: Sun 220R, cdrom problem

2006-02-13 Thread David Gwynne
On 14/02/2006, at 2:24 PM, Joshua Sandbrook wrote: The thing about that though, is it assumes I already have a working system.. eg, solaris is already installed. Any ways around this? I remember migrating an ultra 10 from solaris to openbsd onto the swap partition of the solaris install,

Re: Interface ranges in pf.conf (i.e. tun[0-10])

2006-02-13 Thread yary
On 2/13/06, Ray Lai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... > In this example ifconfig(8) shows that I have groups ``lo'' and > ``egress'', so in the pf.conf you can stick an interface group > (almost?) anywhere you can stick an interface. (Actually there's > a missing interface group in this example: ``en

Re: Wireless Ethernet cards ?

2006-02-13 Thread Bruno Carnazzi
Hi, I've just built my home Wifi AP with an Nintendo USB Wifi Connector, it works perfectly (support a/b/g + hostap + monitor). I run an OpenBSD/i386 3.9-beta. The adapter is built on a Ralink chipset. Best regards, On 2/13/06, uv negativa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi all, > Well, i need so

Re: Interface ranges in pf.conf (i.e. tun[0-10])

2006-02-13 Thread Ray Lai
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 11:13:17PM -0500, Ray Lai wrote: > On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 04:26:29AM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:28:12PM -0500, kyle wrote: > > > Im having trouble finding out if(I'm sure it does) the pf.conf supports > > > interface ranges and how to implemen

Re: Sun 220R, cdrom problem

2006-02-13 Thread Joshua Sandbrook
The thing about that though, is it assumes I already have a working system.. eg, solaris is already installed. Any ways around this? On Sunday 12 February 2006 23:13, you wrote: > Brad wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I just thought I should point out the fact that some > > Sun systems need firmware updat

Re: Interface ranges in pf.conf (i.e. tun[0-10])

2006-02-13 Thread Ray Lai
On Tue, Feb 14, 2006 at 04:26:29AM +0100, Tobias Ulmer wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:28:12PM -0500, kyle wrote: > > Im having trouble finding out if(I'm sure it does) the pf.conf supports > > interface ranges and how to implement it. Right now, I have an ugly rule > > that specifies each inte

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Jason Crawford
On 2/13/06, Andrew Pinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:00 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: > >> > >> Time to write your own program in C instead if the time to invoke > >> rm is taking too much time. > > > > No point, xargs does what I need it to do, and is much more efficient > >

Best Dual AMD Opteron Motherboard for OpenBSD

2006-02-13 Thread Levi Patrick II
Hello, 1. I was hoping someone could recommend a dual AMD Opteron, that will ultimately have 2-4 gigs RAM, 2 NICs, run OpenBSD 3.8, apache, pf, snort, snortsam, snmp, mrtg, SATA (would be nice), captive portal, AAA and various other items for a WISP. I am modeling it after the Air-Lok box fu

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Damien Miller
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Andrew Pinski wrote: > Time to write your own program in C instead if the time to invoke > rm is taking too much time. rm *is* a small program written in C. You need to consider how the tools actually invoke it - think about it for a while. -d

Re: Interface ranges in pf.conf (i.e. tun[0-10])

2006-02-13 Thread Chris Zakelj
kyle wrote: > Im having trouble finding out if(I'm sure it does) the pf.conf supports > interface ranges and how to implement it. Right now, I have an ugly rule > that specifies each interface(tun0, tun1, tun2, etc..). If I somehow missed > this in some documentation, please feel free to tell me to

Re: Interface ranges in pf.conf (i.e. tun[0-10])

2006-02-13 Thread Tobias Ulmer
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 09:28:12PM -0500, kyle wrote: > Im having trouble finding out if(I'm sure it does) the pf.conf supports > interface ranges and how to implement it. Right now, I have an ugly rule > that specifies each interface(tun0, tun1, tun2, etc..). If I somehow missed > this in some doc

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Andrew Pinski
On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:00 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: Time to write your own program in C instead if the time to invoke rm is taking too much time. No point, xargs does what I need it to do, and is much more efficient than having find execute rm itself. The fewer times you call execve(2) the bet

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Damien Miller
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Andrew Pinski wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Damien Miller wrote: > > Because that will fail when there are too many arguments, and will > > probably break on filenames with spaces (use xargs -0 for these). > > Why not use -exec in find? > > find . -type f -name tt

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Jason Crawford
On 2/13/06, Andrew Pinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:53 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: > > > On 2/13/06, Andrew Pinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Damien Miller wrote: > >>> Because that will fail when there are too many arguments, and will > >>

Re: Interface ranges in pf.conf (i.e. tun[0-10])

2006-02-13 Thread Lars Hansson
On Tuesday 14 February 2006 10:28, kyle wrote: > Im having trouble finding out if(I'm sure it does) the pf.conf supports > interface ranges and how to implement it. Right now, I have an ugly rule > that specifies each interface(tun0, tun1, tun2, etc..). Try using "tun". --- Lars Hansson

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Jason Crawford
On 2/13/06, Andrew Pinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Damien Miller wrote: > > Because that will fail when there are too many arguments, and will > > probably break on filenames with spaces (use xargs -0 for these). > > Why not use -exec in find? > > find . -type f -na

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Andrew Pinski
On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:53 PM, Jason Crawford wrote: On 2/13/06, Andrew Pinski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Damien Miller wrote: Because that will fail when there are too many arguments, and will probably break on filenames with spaces (use xargs -0 for these). Why n

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Jason Crawford
On 2/13/06, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2006/02/13 17:28, Jason Crawford wrote: > > Well in the case of /usr/src, I think you must MIGHT hit the maximum > > argument length for the shell by using xargs > > I haven't seen xargs do the wrong thing here. Embedded spaces annoy, > b

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 February 2006 21:25, Damien Miller wrote: > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Dave Feustel wrote: > > > Marco, > > > > I would like to add that I appreciate the work you and the rest of the > > crew are doing to develop OpenBSD. > > Please show your appreciation by educating yourself using the

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Ted Unangst
On 2/13/06, Damien Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why so many people is using xargs ? > > > > I mean for instance why bother use xargs AND a pipe to do somthing like this > > : > > > > find ./ -type f -print | xargs -i rm -f > > Instead of > > rm -f $(find ./ -type f -print) > > Because that

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Andrew Pinski
On Feb 13, 2006, at 9:24 PM, Damien Miller wrote: Because that will fail when there are too many arguments, and will probably break on filenames with spaces (use xargs -0 for these). Why not use -exec in find? find . -type f -name ttt -exec rm {}\; -- Pinski

Interface ranges in pf.conf (i.e. tun[0-10])

2006-02-13 Thread kyle
Im having trouble finding out if(I'm sure it does) the pf.conf supports interface ranges and how to implement it. Right now, I have an ugly rule that specifies each interface(tun0, tun1, tun2, etc..). If I somehow missed this in some documentation, please feel free to tell me to STFA or RTFM - but

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Damien Miller
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Dave Feustel wrote: > Marco, > > I would like to add that I appreciate the work you and the rest of the > crew are doing to develop OpenBSD. Please show your appreciation by educating yourself using the available manpages (which represent a huge amount of work) before askin

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Damien Miller
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006, noob lenoobie wrote: > On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Matthias Kilian wrote: > >(b) pipeing to xargs(1) may be faster. > > Why so many people is using xargs ? > > I mean for instance why bother use xargs AND a pipe to do somthing like this > : > > find ./ -type f -print | xargs -i rm

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Shane J Pearson
Hi Dave, On 2006.02.14, at 12:53 PM, Dave Feustel wrote: Marco, I would like to add that I appreciate the work you and the rest of the crew are doing to develop OpenBSD. It might be best in the future to first outline what you've done to research your questions and then ask the question. Oth

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread noob lenoobie
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Matthias Kilian wrote: >(b) pipeing to xargs(1) may be faster. Why so many people is using xargs ? I mean for instance why bother use xargs AND a pipe to do somthing like this : find ./ -type f -print | xargs -i rm -f Instead of rm -f $(find ./ -type f -print) ? Richard.

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Feustel
Marco, I would like to add that I appreciate the work you and the rest of the crew are doing to develop OpenBSD. On Monday 13 February 2006 19:36, Marco Peereboom wrote: > http://www.oxide.org/cvs/tedu.html > Commit Statistics: > > Total: 864 > src: 834 (96.528%) > ports: 6 (0.694%) > www:

Re: Wireless Ethernet cards ?

2006-02-13 Thread Steve Shockley
uv negativa wrote: Hi all, Well, i need some help! what is the best Wireless hardware supported on openbsd? FCC IDs are often a good way to tell the difference if you're in the US. http://shockley.net/wireless/listcards.aspx Additions to this page are welcomed...

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Steve Shockley
dereck wrote: The responses here are totally out of line. So was his last comment in http://groups.google.com/group/lucky.openbsd.misc/msg/942c4c6d5bc26fca

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 February 2006 19:36, Marco Peereboom wrote: > Time for you to start using Linux, Windows or OSX. > OpenBSD is clearly not fulfilling your needs Your psychic abilities are failing you again. > and the lists are unfriendly. So What? > http://www.oxide.org/cvs/tedu.html > Commit St

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Ted Unangst
On 2/13/06, Tony Sterrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking at the tradeoff of porting bpf with states from linux to > OpenBSD from linux. Daniel Hartmeier in Design and Performance of > the "OpenBSD Stateful Packet Filter (pf)" says that pf is more > efficient than bpf, so it may be point

Re: Wireless Ethernet cards ?

2006-02-13 Thread uv negativa
Hi and tanks all, for your help but i think you don't have remove this card beacuse i belive the version b of D-LINK DWL-G520 work(i haven't tried it ) well, if anybody has tried this card, could you please tell us? On 2/13/06, Szechuan Death <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Zakelj wrote: > > >

Re: openbsd's future plans?

2006-02-13 Thread Byron Hale
I have a scheme (no pun intended) to make Standard ML97 universal and OpenBSD the defacto standard for voting machines. If it should succeed, it would mean money for OBSD development. Naturally, I would like to see OBSD ported to SML97. In particular, porting would be eased by the fact that S

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Tony Sterrett
Hey, BPF is a really cool pseudo device (software that's access like a device, you'll see it in /dev). It is programmed with a assembly like load/store instruction set. This is a very efficient way of filtering incoming packets. It used by tcpdump, pcap and ppp. Its neat but it doesn't

Re: OT: wrt OpenBSD, what's a good laptop

2006-02-13 Thread uv negativa
Hi i have a dell inspiron 710m and work fine, (i don't config x86 in 1280 X 800 but is fine in 1024 x 800), the wires is iwi and work fine. bye On 1/15/06, Julesg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want aircard support of course (which lets out DELL and a few other > manufactuer's.) > > So what's th

Re: Wireless Ethernet cards ?

2006-02-13 Thread Szechuan Death
Chris Zakelj wrote: I am currently using a Belkin F5D7000, version 3001, as a wifi host in my firewall. dmesg snippet: ral0 at pci0 dev 11 function 0 "Ralink RT2560" rev 0x01: irq 12, address 00:11:50:14:f6:a0 ral0: MAC/BBP RT2560 (rev 0x04), RF RT2525 and from ifconfig: ral0: flags=8943 mtu 1

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Marco Peereboom
Time for you to start using Linux, Windows or OSX. OpenBSD is clearly not fulfilling your needs and the lists are unfriendly. http://www.oxide.org/cvs/tedu.html Commit Statistics: Total: 864 src: 834 (96.528%) ports: 6 (0.694%) www: 24 (2.778%) Total Days: 1095 Average per day: 0.789 Oldes

Re: Wireless Problems (DWL-122)

2006-02-13 Thread Luca Marra
Nick Guenther gmail.com> writes: > > You probably want to bring the interface up before trying this: > ifconfig wi0 nwkey up > wicontrol -n MyWifiName -e 1 > setting the card up with ifconfig works > > Is the "wicontrol: SIOCSWAVELAN: Numerical argument out of domain" > > error a normal thing?

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/02/13 17:28, Jason Crawford wrote: > Well in the case of /usr/src, I think you must MIGHT hit the maximum > argument length for the shell by using xargs I haven't seen xargs do the wrong thing here. Embedded spaces annoy, but that's what -print0 (to find) and -0 (to xargs) are for. I almos

Re: 3.8-STABLE :cvs/XF4 seems to be broken.

2006-02-13 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:33:24 -0800, "J.C. Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Can anyone confirm or deny if XF4-STABLE is broken? I've updated source >twice and have had two failed builds of X while following FAQ5. > >Thanks, >JCR sorry for the noise -the problem was my own darn fault. I somehow

cluster -> single virtual server

2006-02-13 Thread Matt Hess
I know there is software out there to split up servers into multiple virtual private servers (ie: partitioning) But what about the reverse? Combine multiple physical servers to run a task with the physical systems acting on a virtual layer as a single system.. the closest I can come is the beowu

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Martin Schröder
On 2006-02-13 18:10:53 -0500, Tim Donahue wrote: > As done by xargs? > > grep foo 1 > > grep foo 2 > > grep foo 3 Any arguments specified on the command line are given to the utility upon each invocation, followed by some number of the arguments read from stan- dard input. The uti

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Ray Lai
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 05:28:22PM -0500, Jason Crawford wrote: > Well in the case of /usr/src, I think you must MIGHT hit the maximum > argument length for the shell by using xargs, unless you did it inside > of each directory in /usr/src. That and well, explaining xargs to Dave > will end up lead

Re: xargs PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Tim Donahue
On Monday 13 February 2006 17:13, Stuart Henderson wrote: > On 2006/02/13 16:53, Jason Crawford wrote: > > On 2/13/06, Matthias Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:03:27PM -0700, Diana Eichert wrote: > > > > find /usr/src -name "*.[c|h]" -exec grep 'bpf.h' /dev/null {

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Diana Eichert
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Greg Thomas wrote: SNIP > > > > (b) pipeing to xargs(1) may be faster. > > > why? > > > > grep foo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ... > > > > vs. > > > > grep foo 1 > > grep foo 2 > > grep foo 3 > > grep foo 4 > > grep foo 5 > > grep foo 6 > > grep foo 7 > > One of the nice things about misc is

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Jason Crawford
On 2/13/06, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2006/02/13 16:53, Jason Crawford wrote: > > On 2/13/06, Matthias Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:03:27PM -0700, Diana Eichert wrote: > > > > find /usr/src -name "*.[c|h]" -exec grep 'bpf.h' /dev/null {}

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Luke Bakken
> > > find /usr/src -name "*.[c|h]" -exec grep 'bpf.h' /dev/null {} \; > >^(a) ^(b) > > > > (a) I doubt there are any file names ending in a pipe symbol in /usr/src. > man ksh The point being made is that '*.[ch]' is what you want. | does not mean "or" in a characte

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Greg Thomas
On 2/13/06, Stuart Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2006/02/13 16:53, Jason Crawford wrote: > > On 2/13/06, Matthias Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:03:27PM -0700, Diana Eichert wrote: > > > > find /usr/src -name "*.[c|h]" -exec grep 'bpf.h' /dev/null {}

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Diana Eichert
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > > (a) I doubt there are any file names ending in a pipe symbol in /usr/src. > > man ksh > > it's in quotes, this is handled by find, not the shell. > > > > (b) pipeing to xargs(1) may be faster. > > why? > > grep foo 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 ... > > vs. > > gr

Re: Wireless Problems (DWL-122)

2006-02-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
> > then i use wicontrol to configure my wlan: Why not make it simpler? ifconfig does all this and is portable to other cards. cat >> /etc/hostname.wi0 << EOF up nwid MyWifiName nwkey 0x0 dhcp EOF

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/02/13 16:53, Jason Crawford wrote: > On 2/13/06, Matthias Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:03:27PM -0700, Diana Eichert wrote: > > > find /usr/src -name "*.[c|h]" -exec grep 'bpf.h' /dev/null {} \; > >^(a) ^(b) > > > > (a) I do

Re: Wireless Problems (DWL-122)

2006-02-13 Thread Nick Guenther
On 2/13/06, Luca Marra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm trying to set up my wireless adapter in openbsd/macppc, it's a DWL-122 USB > adapter and "man wi" says it's supported: > > The following cards are among those supported by the wi driver: > [...] > D-Link DWL-122 Prism-3

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Jason Crawford
On 2/13/06, Matthias Kilian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:03:27PM -0700, Diana Eichert wrote: > > find /usr/src -name "*.[c|h]" -exec grep 'bpf.h' /dev/null {} \; >^(a) ^(b) > > (a) I doubt there are any file names ending in a pipe symbol in

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Diana Eichert
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Matthias Kilian wrote: > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:03:27PM -0700, Diana Eichert wrote: > > find /usr/src -name "*.[c|h]" -exec grep 'bpf.h' /dev/null {} \; >^(a) ^(b) > > (a) I doubt there are any file names ending in a pipe symbol in /usr/src.

Re: PF, anchors and macros

2006-02-13 Thread yary
You can search for a thread on this list with the subject "how to manage big pf-rulesets in a comfortable way" - someone posted their makefile for adding a macro set to the start of pf rulesets.

xfce menu

2006-02-13 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
Hi, I've a problem with xfce, the desktop entries from /usr/locale/share/applications aren't inserted in the system menu of xfce. The XDG- and datadirs are defined correctly at compile time (i've also defined them at runtime). I've no idea howto solve the problem. Maybe it's a known issue and

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:03:27PM -0700, Diana Eichert wrote: > find /usr/src -name "*.[c|h]" -exec grep 'bpf.h' /dev/null {} \; ^(a) ^(b) (a) I doubt there are any file names ending in a pipe symbol in /usr/src. (b) pipeing to xargs(1) may be faster. (SCNR) Ciao,

Re: [OT] Rant on some person

2006-02-13 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Please, stop ranting on persons -- it doesn't help. The intentions of my own replies weren't to flame D.F. to death but just to point out that those "exploits infos" were just silly. Period. Neither were mine, but you are 100% right! Case close and moving on, the party is over. Better things

[OT] Rant on some person (was: X11 exploit info)

2006-02-13 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:53:32PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Something I won't quote] Please, stop ranting on persons -- it doesn't help. The intentions of my own replies weren't to flame D.F. to death but just to point out that those "exploits infos" were just silly. Period. EOT for me.

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Diana Eichert
On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What OpenBSD programs use bpf. Oh c'mon Dave, use the tools that are given to you. find /usr/src -name "*.[c|h]" -exec grep 'bpf.h' /dev/null {} \; will find files that include references to bpf. Your comments re: Ted are sad. I can't belie

Re: X11 exploit info

2006-02-13 Thread Tony
Matthias Kilian wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:00:24PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > > I would expect the people writing books, specially on OpenBSD to know a > > lots more then me, so that I can learn from them, but if what > you say is > > true, it make me question my idea and intention o

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Jason Crawford
On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 13 February 2006 14:52, Jason Crawford wrote: > > You cannot learn all there is to know about bpf and how to effectively > > use it in 10 minutes, so you, personally, do NOT need to use bpf at > > all. It's what the other utilities lik

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006, Ted Unangst wrote: > On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What OpenBSD programs use bpf. > > tcpdump. And there's more: $ cd /usr/src $ grep -lr bpf.h bin sbin usr.bin usr.sbin libexec will give you a nice list. -Otto

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well, one thing is for certain, the caustic responders to this thread aren't > psychic. > > So let's try a r e a l s i m p l e q u e s t i o n : > > What OpenBSD programs use bpf. > > Please don't try to figure out why I am asking the

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Josh Grosse
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 03:29:09PM -0500, Dave Feustel wrote: > So let's try a r e a l s i m p l e q u e s t i o n : > > What OpenBSD programs use bpf. I used this command, Dave: find /usr/src -name "*.c" -exec grep bpf {} /dev/null \; And discovered this list: libpcap

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Ted Unangst
On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What OpenBSD programs use bpf. tcpdump.

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 February 2006 14:52, Jason Crawford wrote: > You cannot learn all there is to know about bpf and how to effectively > use it in 10 minutes, so you, personally, do NOT need to use bpf at > all. It's what the other utilities like pf and tcpdump use to do what > they do. The utilities are

Re: Wireless Ethernet cards ?

2006-02-13 Thread Chris Zakelj
uv negativa wrote: > Hi all, > Well, i need some help! > what is the best Wireless hardware supported on openbsd? > > I think I'll buy one wireless with chipset ath, but in the manual says > > Revision A1 of the D-LINK DWL-G520 and DWL-G650 are based on an Intersil > PrismGT chip and are not

Re: partly resolved: Re: nut problems, was Re: Can't believe I'm asking this... What's a serial port on an OpenBSD system?

2006-02-13 Thread David Benfell
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 18:58:19 +, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > seems like NUT permissions (it has it's own usernames/passwords > to e.g. allow monitoring a UPS without allowing shutdowns) rather > than anything on the UPS. carefully check configs/docs. > Because the error comes from upsmon rathe

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Jason Crawford
On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 13 February 2006 13:51, dereck wrote: > > This is getting ridiculous! The guy said he was under > > attack.(!) What is the point of a _misc_ list anyway? > > He's not clogging the dev list! > > > > The responses here are totally out

Re: X11 exploit info

2006-02-13 Thread Matthias Kilian
On Mon, Feb 13, 2006 at 02:00:24PM -0500, Daniel Ouellet wrote: > I would expect the people writing books, specially on OpenBSD to know a > lots more then me, so that I can learn from them, but if what you say is > true, it make me question my idea and intention of buying the book to > start wit

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread dereck
This is getting ridiculous! The guy said he was under attack.(!) What is the point of a _misc_ list anyway? He's not clogging the dev list! The responses here are totally out of line. Haven't any of you guys EVER had a desperate situation before? Sheesh. --- Ted Unangst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w

Re: X11 exploit info

2006-02-13 Thread Greg Thomas
On 2/13/06, Shane J Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Craig, > > On 2006.02.13, at 10:31 PM, Craig M wrote: > > > However, it has raised my suspicions to a higher level. The book is > > copyrighted in 2003, long before I subscribed to this list and maybe > > even heard of OpenBSD really. Thin

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Greg Thomas
On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Dereck, > > Thanks for the support. However, my situation is not desparate. > By refusing to answer a question to which he indicated he had an > answer, Ted has left all of us hanging as to whether he *really* > knows what the differences are

Wireless Ethernet cards ?

2006-02-13 Thread uv negativa
Hi all, Well, i need some help! what is the best Wireless hardware supported on openbsd? I think I'll buy one wireless with chipset ath, but in the manual says Revision A1 of the D-LINK DWL-G520 and DWL-G650 are based on an Intersil PrismGT chip and are not supported by this driver. and a

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 February 2006 13:51, dereck wrote: > This is getting ridiculous! The guy said he was under > attack.(!) What is the point of a _misc_ list anyway? > He's not clogging the dev list! > > The responses here are totally out of line. Haven't > any of you guys EVER had a desperate situa

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/02/13 13:00, Dave Feustel wrote: > On Monday 13 February 2006 12:45, Ted Unangst wrote: > > On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What can BPF do that PF can not? > > > > different things. > > OK, I'll bite. Such as? > (this might be a loong, drawnout thread, but I've

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Joe S
Dave Feustel wrote: What can BPF do that PF can not? Thanks, Dave Feustel One is a packet sniffer, one is a firewall. However, you are not qualified to operate such tools. Please disconnect your keyboard from your PC.

Re: X11 exploit info

2006-02-13 Thread Daniel Ouellet
Felipe Scarel wrote: I thought the very same thing yesterday, when he published his web site on the list. I took a look there, and assuming everything is correct, looks like he ported KDE and Qt to OpenBSD, which seems huge (of course he shouldn't have done that alone. Moreover, his job carrer i

Re: partly resolved: Re: nut problems, was Re: Can't believe I'm asking this... What's a serial port on an OpenBSD system?

2006-02-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2006/02/13 10:47, David Benfell wrote: > This UPS is about 2 years old, but fairly substantial -- I can > generally go at least 1-1/2 hours on its battery. I had the > impression it has fairly high-end capabilities. Am I missing > something else that would cause "master privileges" to be > "un

partly resolved: Re: nut problems, was Re: Can't believe I'm asking this... What's a serial port on an OpenBSD system?

2006-02-13 Thread David Benfell
On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:10:57 -0800, David Benfell wrote: > > > So I tried running the driver in debug mode... > > > cyberpower -a lupin1500AVR -u nutmon -D ^ This appears to b

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Jon Simola
On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 13 February 2006 12:45, Ted Unangst wrote: > > On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What can BPF do that PF can not? > > > > different things. > > OK, I'll bite. Such as? > (this might be a loong, drawnout thread,

nut problems, was Re: Can't believe I'm asking this... What's a serial port on an OpenBSD system?

2006-02-13 Thread David Benfell
Hello all, Thanks a million, to all who responded. And I think I've managed to identify the correct tty, but...: Broadcast Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((not a tty)) at 9:31 ...

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Ted Unangst
On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Monday 13 February 2006 12:45, Ted Unangst wrote: > > On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > What can BPF do that PF can not? > > > > different things. > > OK, I'll bite. Such as? no, if you can't read a man page, you aren

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Greg Thomas
On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What can BPF do that PF can not? > Your questions keep getting better and better. Just curious as to whether you've heard of Google? 1. Make an /etc/bpf.conf and see what happens. Oh, wait, I don't see a reference to a config file in man bp

Re: Could someone, running latest snapshots confirm this problem

2006-02-13 Thread Przemyslaw Nowaczyk
Graham Gower napisaE(a): On 13/02/06, Didier Wiroth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, If you are running the latest snapshot with x11 can you confirm the following command gives you an error message: setxkbmap fr_CH Thank you for taking the time to try this, it only takes 1 or 2 seconds to test

Re: PF or BPF

2006-02-13 Thread Dave Feustel
On Monday 13 February 2006 12:45, Ted Unangst wrote: > On 2/13/06, Dave Feustel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What can BPF do that PF can not? > > different things. OK, I'll bite. Such as? (this might be a loong, drawnout thread, but I've got time :-)) -- Lose, v., experience a loss, get rid

Re: Could someone, running latest snapshots confirm this problem

2006-02-13 Thread Florin Iamandi
C. Bensend dixit (2006-02-13, 14:44:04): > > $ setxkbmap fr_CH > > Error loading new keyboard description > > Ditto, on i386 (Feb 8 snapshot). Same here on OpenBSD 3.9-beta (GENERIC) #1: Sat Feb 11 00:05:08 CET 2006 -- .--. |

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