Just for those interested in different BSD like ( or so called ) Licences

2005-05-15 Thread Siju George
http://news.com.com/India+eyes+own+open-source+license/2100-7344_3-5701861.html?tag=nefd.led Thankyou so much Kind Regards Siju

Re: well that does it

2005-05-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
> on the topic, after reyk's talk andphk bullshitting, greg lehey let us > know that "phk is not speaking for freebsd". At the presentation. In the crowd. So who is speaking for FreeBSD? Is it phk and all the freebsd developers sending me hate mail for exposing this? Like Scott Long? No wond

Re: well that does it

2005-05-15 Thread Henning Brauer
on the topic, after reyk's talk andphk bullshitting, greg lehey let us know that "phk is not speaking for freebsd".

IKE Mode Config / IKECFG with isakmpd

2005-05-15 Thread Sean Knox
Is anyone using IKE mode config successfully with isakmpd? I'm trying to set my VPN Tracker client (Mac IPSec software) to obtain an IP via IKECFG but one end isn't handling things correctly. Running an isakmpd build from today. I assume this isakmpd log snippet is relevant: 213528.813236 Cryp

Re: well that does it

2005-05-15 Thread Chris Kuethe
On 5/15/05, Joel Dinel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh, please. I was there, and I believe everyone's answer was 'Stop > trolling you damn trolling troll, this is a *technical* conference'. > Man, what a flamebait that was. At least I had a bit of fun watching > Henning and Beck rip our beloved Mr.

Re: well that does it

2005-05-15 Thread St.Roy
Joel Dinel wrote: On 5/15/05, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Asked directly if they thought they could defend their reverse engineering of for instance the Atheros HAL. The answer as I heard it was "Laws don't apply to us". Oh, please. I was there, and I believe everyone's answe

Re: Hier sind wir Lehrer die einzigen Auslaender

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Trotz Stellenabbau

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Re: horizontal scaling of spamd

2005-05-15 Thread Chad M Stewart
Phillip, Thank you for pointing out spamlogd. I never noticed that before and will look into that tomorrow. It looks to be what I might be looking for. Thanks again, Chad

Re: well that does it

2005-05-15 Thread Joel Dinel
On 5/15/05, Theo de Raadt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Asked directly if they thought they could defend their reverse > engineering of for instance the Atheros HAL. The answer as I heard > it was "Laws don't apply to us". Oh, please. I was there, and I believe everyone's answer was 'Stop trollin

Re: kernelized pppoe in 3.7

2005-05-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
> With the upcoming 3.7 release, I took a look at the -current manpage for > pppoe(4). It looks straight-forward enough once you have things set up, > but I didn't see answers to two things on my mind... > 1. Will users be able to use it during floppy installs, or will an > intermediate device

kernelized pppoe in 3.7

2005-05-15 Thread Chris Zakelj
With the upcoming 3.7 release, I took a look at the -current manpage for pppoe(4). It looks straight-forward enough once you have things set up, but I didn't see answers to two things on my mind... 1. Will users be able to use it during floppy installs, or will an intermediate device (cdrom, n

smtp-milter problem

2005-05-15 Thread Geoff White
I'm having a funny problem with smtp-milter. It has to do with sendmail running kicking off every 30 minutes (I think) and flushing the queue anyway here is what shows up in the logs... May 14 10:30:01 maildev sm-mta[3232]: j4EHU1fL003232: from=<>, size=110771, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL

Re: horizontal scaling of spamd

2005-05-15 Thread Phillip Eviston
Hi Chad >What I don't get is how you got spamd to pickup the white listed >entries on both boxes? AFAIK spamd does not look at the logs, simply >puts entries in, does not read them. I must admit I haven't deliberately studied it, but I was going on the contents of man (8) spamlogd which says:

well that does it

2005-05-15 Thread Theo de Raadt
since a lot of freebsd developers are now attacking me in private for a mail i sent to their lists, and i am entirely bored of their private attacks, I am just going to send it all here so that people can make their own judgement of is transpiring. btw, this is about reyk's talk at bsdcan, the sli

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Joel Rees
Are you saying that instead of distinguishing between foo and my foo, the distinction should be between everybody's foo and foo for some spelling of everybody's As Nick points out, I've been feeding the flames when I should be doing other things. I'm going to try one last time to offer a word to t

Re: horizontal scaling of spamd

2005-05-15 Thread Chad M Stewart
Hi Phillip, My situation, at this point is hypothetical, though based on reality in carrier grade messaging systems. I have been building and implementing large scale systems for many years, so I have had time thinking small, which can be good and bad. :) I understand your setup, makes perfect

Re: exposing an internal server to the Internet [SOLVED]

2005-05-15 Thread GV
YES! That was the problem! Thanks a lot! George On Sunday 15 May 2005 01:02, Arnaud Bergeron wrote: > On 5/14/05, GV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > no, I don't need any port of that machine to be exposed to the Internet. > > Only a certain range. > > > > I tried the following: > > > > -- > >

Re: exposing an internal server to the Internet

2005-05-15 Thread Jason Dixon
On May 15, 2005, at 5:10 PM, Jason Dixon wrote: On May 15, 2005, at 4:11 PM, GV wrote: not really. Actually I would like to avoid that. I rather wanted to have one external IP address and different ports on this address should redirect to different internal machines! Ok, let's nip this in the bud

Re: exposing an internal server to the Internet

2005-05-15 Thread Jason Dixon
On May 15, 2005, at 4:11 PM, GV wrote: not really. Actually I would like to avoid that. I rather wanted to have one external IP address and different ports on this address should redirect to different internal machines! Ok, let's nip this in the bud once and for all. You just want to use binat

Re: Machine performance

2005-05-15 Thread Christian Weisgerber
Steve Shockley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What's the biggest bottleneck when compiling the ports tree? CPU. Disk is not a big contributor, unless you are building on something really slow like a laptop disk. > Would compiling ports actually use four processors? Not by default, no. However, Ni

Re: exposing an internal server to the Internet

2005-05-15 Thread GV
not really. Actually I would like to avoid that. I rather wanted to have one external IP address and different ports on this address should redirect to different internal machines! On Sunday 15 May 2005 17:47, Andreas Boman wrote: > If I understand you correctly, what you are asking for requires

Re: exposing an internal server to the Internet

2005-05-15 Thread GV
never had the chance to implement a bridge configuration before so I have to do some reading on this first before going on with it. Thanks for your time George On Sunday 15 May 2005 18:13, Reg wrote: > So, if i understand correcly, you want all ip services on the internal > machine exposed to s

RE: Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Tony Abernethy
Are you saying that instead of distinguishing between foo and my foo, the distinction should be between everybody's foo and foo for some spelling of everybody's ? >- --- Original Message --- - >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Sun, 15 May 2005 14:43:00 > >On Mo

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Nick Holland
Big rule of scripting: More work gets done by writing code than by arguing about scripting languages. Pick a language. Learn it. Work with it. Implement some tasks in it. If you are satisfied with it, good. If not, try some other language. You ain't marrying it, if it doesn't work out, move o

Re: LSI MegaRAID 150-4 (a.k.a. LSI/Symbios 523)

2005-05-15 Thread Per-Olov =?iso-8859-1?q?Sj=F6holm?=
On Sunday 15 May 2005 20.11, Alexander Hall wrote: > Per-Olov Sjvholm wrote: > > LSI 150-4 works like a charm (OpenBSD 3.6 + driver cleanup patches from > > CVS)... I have many of them. Both in 32 and 64 bit slots. Now I use it on > > some OpenBSD 3.7 installations as well. > > > > What can I say..

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Jason Dixon
On May 15, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Adam wrote: I never said otherwise. I said you can have optional args in lots of other languages too, as Jason seemed to think @_ allows optional args, while languages using named args don't. What I was saying is that in almost every Perl program I've written or read,

Re: LSI MegaRAID 150-4 (a.k.a. LSI/Symbios 523)

2005-05-15 Thread Steve Shockley
Alexander Hall wrote: So they work well in 32-bit PCI slots as well? I thought (for no other than visual reasons) that they required a 64-bit slot. We were thinking about byuing one for our ISP1100 (somewhat old, but stable), which has no 64-bit PCI slot. Do you know if there is anything special

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Tony
>there are times when it's actually worth the effort to ... Oh yes. Now, do you determine whether the trip is worthwhile by examining hammers or by examining the nails? (Language zealots all seem to have the problem of looking only at the hammers;) >A Britt, a Scotsman, an Aussie, a Texan, a New Y

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Adam
On Mon, 16 May 2005 01:05:28 +0900 Joel Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The bug/feature is that you can't declare variables unless you > declare them either "local" (which is usually not what you want) or > "my" (which _is_ what you usually want). The buggy aspects of this > feature are mostly r

Re: LSI MegaRAID 150-4 (a.k.a. LSI/Symbios 523)

2005-05-15 Thread Rogier Krieger
On 5/15/05, Alexander Hall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So they work well in 32-bit PCI slots as well? I thought (for no other > than visual reasons) that they required a 64-bit slot. LSI Logic mentions on its website (that is, its knowledge base; I don't have a direct link) that these cards also

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Adam
On Sun, 15 May 2005 11:59:04 +0200 Marc Espie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 12:49:34AM -0400, Adam wrote: > > First of all, that's not a benefit. In most languages you can have > > optional arguments to functions, without forcing all functions to > > take only a single arra

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Eugene Hercun
Thank you all once again for your help for I am now a little more informed, and I know that I do not have to buy a book just yet. I wonder how similar perl is to c++? Since my teacher in university told me when you learn one language you know them all (not litteraly). But I guess I'll find out from

Re: LSI MegaRAID 150-4 (a.k.a. LSI/Symbios 523)

2005-05-15 Thread Alexander Hall
Per-Olov Sjvholm wrote: LSI 150-4 works like a charm (OpenBSD 3.6 + driver cleanup patches from CVS)... I have many of them. Both in 32 and 64 bit slots. Now I use it on some OpenBSD 3.7 installations as well. What can I say... I wont buy any adaptec cards ;-) /Per-Olov So they work well in 32-

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Mon, 16 May 2005 01:13:03 +0900, Joel Rees <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'm quite sure Paul Graham would very >> happily tell you all the logical reasons why the end result would >> eventually be a dialect of LISP. ;-) > >And perl is a dialect of LISP, isn't it? > >:-/ > I would bet said se

Machine performance

2005-05-15 Thread Steve Shockley
What's the biggest bottleneck when compiling the ports tree? I've got two machines available; the first is a P4-2.4, 1gb RAM, with two 15k disks on an Adaptec 39160 SCSI (ports tree on its own spindle), and a quad Xeon 500/2mb, 3gb EDO RAM, 5x 10k disks on an LSI RAID controller with 128mb cac

Re: udf vs fat32

2005-05-15 Thread Pedro Martelletto
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 04:22:10PM +0200, -f wrote: > hi there, > > i am reading about UDF on wikipedia, and it states that > udf is becoming popular on flash media. > > i saw the udf commits to the tree, and i was wondering > if it was possible to udf format a disk. as both windows > and openbs

Re: fdisk and disklabel C/H/S

2005-05-15 Thread Steve Shockley
Mikhail Malamud wrote: This blows because I am porting a legacy application from an MVS system. This application accesses two sequential datasets - flat files that are over 10GBs. Since both files have to be accessed at the same time, I was hoping to put them on different platters to avoid disk con

Re: exposing an internal server to the Internet

2005-05-15 Thread Reg
So, if i understand correcly, you want all ip services on the internal machine exposed to some NAT'd ip? Keep in mind if this machine is compromised the entire internal network is then compromised. Think about Mario's suggestion about transparent bridging. This way you can allow all access fro

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Joel Rees
I'm quite sure Paul Graham would very happily tell you all the logical reasons why the end result would eventually be a dialect of LISP. ;-) And perl is a dialect of LISP, isn't it? :-/ -- Joel Rees (A FORTH dreamer, imprisoned in a Java world)

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Joel Rees
{ promote my $language; redo; } What about declaring a variable in the block it's being used is so difficult for you? It's pretty simple... define a variable in the main namespace, it's a global. Define it in a block, it's lexical. This is a bit of an oversimplification, but Uh, tha

Re: exposing an internal server to the Internet

2005-05-15 Thread Andreas Boman
If I understand you correctly, what you are asking for requires an external IP for each of the internal servers. After that it is just a matter of forwarding all ports from an external ip to an internal one, applying firewall rules either on the gateway/router box or on the internal server.

Re: LSI MegaRAID 150-4 (a.k.a. LSI/Symbios 523)

2005-05-15 Thread Per-Olov =?iso-8859-1?q?Sj=F6holm?=
On Wednesday 04 May 2005 20.41, Rogier Krieger wrote: > Just a happy user report. Hopefully, this is of use for those > searching the archives. > > As it seems, the LSI Logic MegaRAID SATA 150-4 seems another name for > the LSI/Symbios 523 listed in the HCL. For completeness, I attached a > dmesg o

udf vs fat32

2005-05-15 Thread -f
hi there, i am reading about UDF on wikipedia, and it states that udf is becoming popular on flash media. i saw the udf commits to the tree, and i was wondering if it was possible to udf format a disk. as both windows and openbsd understands udf, maybe it could be used as a crossplatform file sy

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sun, 15 May 2005 05:32:07 -0500, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >To add to your excellent analogy with hammers, >Do you drive across town to get that one best hammer to drive one nail? > Oddly enough there are times when it's actually worth the effort to go across town to pick up a hammer better s

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Tony
To add to your excellent analogy with hammers, Do you drive across town to get that one best hammer to drive one nail? OT. I use PHP, I like PHP. Perl Monks: PHP - it's "training wheels without the bike" -- Randal L. Schwartz Pretty accurate. (But imagine PHP if perl didn't exist;) Way OT. I lurk

Re: exposing an internal server to the Internet

2005-05-15 Thread Mario Lopez
I would use OpenBSD's transparent bridging feature with (optionally) pf filtering. Mario. Hi, I have a situation where an internal (located in a LAN and behind a OpenBSD firewall/NAT) has to be fully exposed to the Internet! What's the best way to acieve that? Thanks George

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Marc Espie
On Sun, May 15, 2005 at 12:49:34AM -0400, Adam wrote: > First of all, that's not a benefit. In most languages you can have > optional arguments to functions, without forcing all functions to take > only a single array of scalar variables. You know, maybe you should read perl documentation. In pe

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Morten Liebach
On 2005-05-14 23:39:11 -0700, Eugene Hercun wrote: > Thank you for your responses. Sorry I could not reply sooner since I > went to work before I posted this e-mail. Anyway, I might have missed > it, but did anyone recommend a book regarding scripting for BSD with > perl? You don't need that. Per

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sat, 14 May 2005 23:39:11 -0700, Eugene Hercun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Thank you for your responses. Sorry I could not reply sooner since I >went to work before I posted this e-mail. Anyway, I might have missed >it, but did anyone recommend a book regarding scripting for BSD with >perl? >I

Re: openning ports on internal machines to the internet (pf.conf)

2005-05-15 Thread GV
Thank you for your comments. George On Sunday 15 May 2005 00:57, Arnaud Bergeron wrote: > Sorry if this seems a bit out of order, because I commented as it came to > me. > > On 5/13/05, GV <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have following LAN configuration: > > > > [ COMP_1 ] ... [ COM

Re: exposing an internal server to the Internet

2005-05-15 Thread GV
I apologize for the confusion but didn't realize that my question wasn't clear enough! Well, the whole story was to have a server in the LAN (actually a range of servers!) where only NAT and no firewall had to be enabled. Users from Internet should have full access to all the ports of these ser

Re: beginner, intermediate, and advanced scripting

2005-05-15 Thread Eugene Hercun
Thank you for your responses. Sorry I could not reply sooner since I went to work before I posted this e-mail. Anyway, I might have missed it, but did anyone recommend a book regarding scripting for BSD with perl? I think were getting a little bit off topic in the last few posts... =) Eugene