On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:50 PM, Shazaf Burki wrote:
> What's going on fellas? Take a chill pill
you noticed too, there's something very... "off" about the way that
these developers react to outside feedback, huh? something that
should be really simple to resolve (if they were interested in d
What's going on fellas? Take a chill pill
> On 17 Sep 2018, at 4:33 PM, Daniel Kelly wrote:
>
> Not sure what it's going to take to have you take an ethical route. But
> saying shit like:
>
>> or an apology from the developers indicating that they
>> really didn't know what had gotten into t
Not sure what it's going to take to have you take an ethical route. But
saying shit like:
or an apology from the developers indicating that they
> really didn't know what had gotten into them, it's like they were
> possessed or something and they're really really sorry for the attacks
> that they'
All,
As a moderator for this list, I'd like to politely ask that everyone
refrain from further ML posts on this topic. As we have a very large number
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subscribed to keep up to date with announcements or new technical
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:26 PM, Jeffrey Rufino
wrote:
> Shame on you Luke.
why did you write that?
l.
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 2:37 AM, Justin Zheng wrote:
> But the point of a CoC is that there's some sort of standard for all
> participants to follow. Also, so that people who are unsure of whether they
> want to particip
Shame on you Luke.
On Mon, 17 Sep. 2018, 9:19 pm Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton,
wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:09 AM, 0xb100d <0...@protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Luke you are spamming (which is worse than trolling)
> > posting links to your crowdfunding page.
>
> ok, so i apologise: and at t
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:09 AM, 0xb100d <0...@protonmail.com> wrote:
> Luke you are spamming (which is worse than trolling)
> posting links to your crowdfunding page.
ok, so i apologise: and at the same time i feel compelled to point
out three fundamental assumptions that you've made. (1) you
Luke you are spamming (which is worse than trolling) posting links to your
crowdfunding page. I don't think we have to read your mind to tell you are
looking for attention and not actually as interested or fundamentally
knowledgeable about the success of this project as you mean to let on. Your
But the point of a CoC is that there's some sort of standard for all
participants to follow. Also, so that people who are unsure of whether they
want to participate can see what the community values and will allow/not
allow.
Also, completely off topic:You write in a pretty frustrating (imo) pedant
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 1:22 AM, Daniel Kelly wrote:
> Seriously!?
a question. answer: yes.
> Give it up Luke,
why?
> you are filing everyone's inboxes with useless
> junk. Igno NEVER EVER said what your accusing
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On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Justin Zheng wrote:
> Luke, maybe write a draft CoC that you think should be implemented?
ah, thank you: a question. it's very simple: the code of honour
(honor if you use U.S.) spell
Saw that too, I think they implemented the same one that ours is partially
based on?
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 5:27 PM Mike Dallas
wrote:
> On a side note, the linux kernel added a CoC today.
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/diff/Documentation/process/code-of-co
On a side note, the linux kernel added a CoC today.
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/diff/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct.rst?id=8a104f8b5867c682d994ffa7a74093c54469c11f
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018, at 5:19 PM, Justin Zheng wrote:
> Luke, maybe write a draft CoC th
Luke, maybe write a draft CoC that you think should be implemented?
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 5:08 PM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:37 AM, Michalis Kargakis
> wrote:
>
> > As an external contributor, I also view this as toxic commentary. It's
> good
> > though t
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:37 AM, Michalis Kargakis
wrote:
> As an external contributor, I also view this as toxic commentary. It's good
> though to question everything as this community evolves but ideally without
> getting emotional.
exactly. [just a few minutes ago, a previous message accuse
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:40 AM, Fraser Smith wrote:
> Two things, personal feelings should be put aside, secondly Luke raises very
> valid points albeit packaged in a humorous and slightly cynical manner, they
> should be addressed.
appreciated, fraser.
> If you are going to bother spending
On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 12:00 AM, Ethan Heilman
wrote:
> From my perspective Luke's comments are one of the clearest examples of
> concern trolling
i had to look up "troll", and would you agree that this is a
reasonable definition? " One who posts a deliberately provocative
message to a newsgro
As an external contributor, I also view this as toxic commentary. It's good
though to question everything as this community evolves but ideally without
getting emotional.
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On Sep 17, 2018, 01:00, Ethan Heilman wrote:
> From my perspective Luke's comments are on
>From my perspective Luke's comments are one of the clearest examples of
concern trolling I've yet seen on the internet.
>a systemic law of organisations that all contributions from all
contributors be valued
As anyone who has cooked a meal will agree not all contributions are
welcome. Arsenic do
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 10:18 PM, Justin Zheng wrote:
> I think that Luke's opinion on the matter should be valued regardless of his
> attitude towards Igno,
appreciated, justin: you may be interested to know that it is a
systemic law of organisations that all contributions from all
contributor
I think that Luke's opinion on the matter should be valued regardless of
his attitude towards Igno, even though imo it shows the importance of
having a Code of Conduct.
However, I 100% believe that the benefits of a CoC outweigh not having one.
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 1:23 PM Luke Kenneth Casson
On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 9:12 PM, Neo wrote:
> I don't normally say anything, however, I feel obliged to in this case. In
> my opinion, Luke's comments about Igno are out of line and his assertion
> that we must listen to him or else the project will fail feels like
> extortion or some kind of inti
I don't normally say anything, however, I feel obliged to in this case. In
my opinion, Luke's comments about Igno are out of line and his assertion
that we must listen to him or else the project will fail feels like
extortion or some kind of intimidation technique- it portrays a toxic
persona. If r
I agree with Casey's statements completely, maybe the document could use
some refinement but your (Luke) attitude and ultimatums are the problems.
They are not constructive what-so-ever.
Thank you,
Dan
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 4:48 PM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:34 PM, Casey Rodarmor wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:39 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
> wrote:
>> except, as i've patiently mentioned each time people very kindly contribute
>> their insights: the project leader, ignatius, has made it absolutely
>> clear that any
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:39 AM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
wrote:
> except, as i've patiently mentioned each time people very kindly contribute
> their insights: the project leader, ignatius, has made it absolutely
> clear that any efforts to provide insights - even sadly yours, casey,
> are ne
On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 9:46 AM, Casey Rodarmor wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I changed the subject of my reply to "On The Code of Conduct", so as
> not to mix threads of conversation.
that's a good idea, i often forget that. thank you.
> Please keep in mind that this is only my interpretation of the c
Hi all,
I changed the subject of my reply to "On The Code of Conduct", so as
not to mix threads of conversation.
Please keep in mind that this is only my interpretation of the code of
conduct. I am on the Grin moderation team, but this is not an official
position, only my personal thoughts.
I've
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