Not sure what it's going to take to have you take an ethical route. But saying shit like:
or an apology from the developers indicating that they > really didn't know what had gotten into them, it's like they were > possessed or something and they're really really sorry for the attacks > that they've been carrying out, and won't do it again (etc. etc.), > *then* i would feel that there was a safe environment in which to > actually contribute. > They NEVER attacked you, in fact, you have been attacking everyone else saying shit like "they are possessed", "they attacked you", "your contributions are not welcome" - you are just making shit up. You are a liar, troll, and a spammer. Buzz-off. On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 7:19 AM Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton <l...@lkcl.net> wrote: > On Mon, Sep 17, 2018 at 11:09 AM, 0xb100d <0...@protonmail.com> wrote: > > > Luke you are spamming (which is worse than trolling) > > posting links to your crowdfunding page. > > ok, so i apologise: and at the same time i feel compelled to point > out three fundamental assumptions that you've made. (1) you've > assumed that it's a profit-maximising business (2) you've assumed that > it was deliberate and intentional (3) you've assumed that i want > people here to know about that ethical eco-conscious project. > > it was definitely not intentional. think about this: given the > ferocity of the attacks and the "blaming" that's occurred, do you > *really* imagine that i would want people here to even *know* about > the project(s) that i'm actively working on? do you think i want > their negativity directed at work that i'm doing? do you think i want > to risk having them contact people from the project and go, "oh, yeah, > that fucking moron that keeps on attacking our project, yeah he's a > total dick, don't buy anything from him, for god's sake!!!!" > > ... yeah? > > also: it's an ethical eco-conscious project. i'm not legally > permitted to make a profit on it (not permitted to be directly > associated with a profit-maximising business) during the fulfilment of > the campaign. > > so it most certainly is *not* my intent to have people here even > *know* about that project. the problem is, i'm barely able to keep up > with the messages, having been caught off-guard by the ferocity and > quantity of peoples' responses (even after having unsubscribed), it's > a ".sig" from gmail, which is often "elided" (hidden), and i forget to > explicitly look for it and remove it. > > so, apologies. > > anyway. the Titanian's Code of Honour. let me think for a bit about > what you suggest, out loud so-to-speak. do i want to start a "blog" > (where i would need to spend time and resources evaluating whether and > how to set one up that complies with the ethical criteria that i set), > with the specific intent and purpose, spending my time and energy, to > write something about the Titanian's Code of Honour for people on the > mimblewimble project to read, posting it here at some point in the > future for them to consider? > > let's consider what the consequences of that would be. after spending > my personal time and energy, taking up my resources to do so when > there was no offer of compensation or reward or incentive (i.e. > causing *me* "harm"), chances are quite high that i would then be > accused once again of "spamming links" (which would cause me "harm"), > or "advertising" (again, "harm" to me), and given that the project > leader and others have been so vocal in "blaming" me, i honestly and > seriously doubt that it would be read, i.e. my time would have been > wasted (no possibility of reward, therefore "harm" done to me by > having my time and resources wasted). > > which is pretty much the definition of violating the Titanian's Code of > Honour. > > so a simple thought experiment shows that to do what you suggested > would in fact be highly unethical. in the current psychological > climate of this project, there would actually be significant harm done > *to me* by taking the action that you suggest. > > now, if on the other hand there had been an offer of financial > compensation, or an apology from the developers indicating that they > really didn't know what had gotten into them, it's like they were > possessed or something and they're really really sorry for the attacks > that they've been carrying out, and won't do it again (etc. etc.), > *then* i would feel that there was a safe environment in which to > actually contribute. > > [ i have to tell you: right now i feel *really* intimidated and > deeply alarmed by the behaviour of people on this list, and in > absolutely NO WAY encouraged to contribute. would you? ] > > so that alone should be a quite useful demonstration of how the > Titanian's Code of Honour can be applied. > > l. > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~mimblewimble > Post to : mimblewimble@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~mimblewimble > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >
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